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能否带PHD 是美国和中国的体制不同。

如果从能否带PHD看,美国是没有那种只能讲课的讲师。。。除非学校本身就不招PHD :)

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发表于 2010-11-23 12:53:19 |显示全部楼层
我说的ap就是assistant

老美ap的门槛本身就比较高了

理论上美国据说有lecturer,但我都没见过
老印真是畜生都不如的东西啊!

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我妈刚当上正教授的时候竟然还不是博导

中美没法比较
老印真是畜生都不如的东西啊!

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The term "Lecturer" is used in various ways across different US institutions, sometimes causing confusion. On a generic level however, the term broadly denotes one who teaches at a university but is not eligible for tenure, and has no research obligations. At non-research schools, the latter distinction is of course less meaningful, making the absence of tenure the main difference. Unlike the adjective "Adjunct" (which can modify most academic titles, from Professor to Lecturer to Instructor, etc.), the title of Lecturer itself at most schools does not address the issue of full-time vs. part-time status. Lecturers almost always have at least a Masters Degree, and quite often a Doctorate, although there is a bit more variation on the issue of credentials/qualifications than in the tenure-track market. Sometimes the title is used as an equivalent-alternative for "Instructor," but schools that utilize both titles tend to provide relatively more advancement potential to their Lecturers. Note that the term "Instructor" can sometimes apply to graduate students who teach part-time for their institution, whereas the title "Lecturer" is rarely given to such personnel.

It is becoming increasingly common for major research universities to hire full-time Lecturers, whose responsibilities are primarily undergraduate education, especially for introductory/survey courses that involve large groups of students. These tend to be the courses that tenure-track faculty do not prefer to teach, and are unnecessarily costly for them to do so (at their comparatively higher salary rates). When a Lecturer is part-time, there is little practical distinction from an "Adjunct Professor", since neither has the prestige of being on the tenure-track. Depending on the field, many Lecturers or Adjunct Professors are recently-graduated graduate students seeking to get teaching experience while looking for a tenure-track position. Others are people who intend to remain permanently in their full-or-part-time teaching role. For full-time Lecturers, many institutions now incorporate the role quite formally with performance reviews, promotional tracks, administrative service responsibilities, and many faculty privileges (e.g. voting, use of resources, etc.).

One emerging alternative to the use of full-time Lecturers at research-heavy institutions is to create a parallel professorship track that's focused on teaching, which may or may not offer tenure, with a title series such as "Teaching Professor." This would be analogous to how some universities have research-only faculty tracks with title series' such as "Research Professor/Scientist/Scholar."

It should also be noted, however, that the title is sometimes, paradoxically, used in just the opposite sense: in some institutions, a "Lecturer" (and/or variation such as "Distinguished Lecturer") is actually a higher rank than Professor: a sort of "grand old man" of the university. Also, in some schools it's a temporary post for visiting academics of considerable prominence—e.g. a famous writer may serve for a term or a year, for instance. When confusion arose about Barack Obama's status on the law faculty at the University of Chicago, the institution stated that although his title was "Senior Lecturer," that school actually uses that title for notable people such as federal judges and politicians who are deemed of high prestige but simply lack sufficient time to commit to a traditional tenure-track position.[3]
老印真是畜生都不如的东西啊!

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发表于 2010-11-23 12:55:39 |显示全部楼层
那是区别很大。。。

另外,发现糊糊BSO 妈妈是博导。

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发表于 2010-11-23 12:56:40 |显示全部楼层
名义上好像是,但貌似没带过phd,汗
国内正教授,副教授,主要是为了评个职称
也没太大实际意义
老印真是畜生都不如的东西啊!

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狐狸大叔 发表于 2010-11-23 12:55


原来奥大叔是讲师。。。不过是著名的讲师。。。:P

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名义上好像是,但貌似没带过phd,汗
国内正教授,副教授,主要是为了评个职称
也没太大实际意义
狐狸大叔 发表于 2010-11-23 12:56


怎么会。
工资待遇差好多的说。 :)

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发表于 2010-11-23 13:01:11 |显示全部楼层
工资反正都很少
老印真是畜生都不如的东西啊!

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发表于 2010-11-23 13:03:39 |显示全部楼层
我觉得主要是在上海那个地方。换个正常点的地方,工资应该也可以了。

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坚决不走学术的飘过
平生太湖上,短棹几经过,于今重到何事? 愁比水云多。拟把匣中长剑,换取扁舟一叶,归去老渔蓑。银艾非吾事,丘壑已蹉跎。
脍新鲈,斟美酒,起悲歌:太平生长,岂谓今日识干戈!欲泻三江雪浪,净洗胡尘千里,无为挽天河。回首望霄汉,双泪坠清波。

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发表于 2010-11-23 13:06:35 |显示全部楼层
还是低收入者为主阿
老印真是畜生都不如的东西啊!

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发表于 2010-11-23 15:22:55 |显示全部楼层
有lecturer的,我TA的课时讲师上的

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发表于 2010-11-23 15:54:32 |显示全部楼层
工资反正都很少
狐狸大叔 发表于 2010-11-23 13:01

申请项目的时候就不一样了~~
现实一点,才不会跌得太痛~

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发表于 2010-11-23 22:25:15 |显示全部楼层
怎么会。
工资待遇差好多的说。 :)
DriverEntry 发表于 2010-11-23 13:00
我本科的一个老师从加拿大渥太华大学回来的,他说我们大学给的工资爆低,还不如他在渥太华当TA,一个月还不到4000,所以不是上海的问题,老师普遍很清贫。至于拿项目,又得扯到networking这个事上了,你在国外呆了那么久,回国基本上就是重新来过了。而且我觉得学术界名气大的太重要了,能把那些小AP都压死,,,,倒是不如做industry的舒心,,,,,,,虽然我现在还没有去industry做过internship,我老板说经济不好, internship只给citizen,看看National Lab 有没有机会,,,,

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