issue167 <彼岸小组> 提纲作业贴

choupgheadUID: 2969431

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星期5； 12月10日；

【题目】issue167
"It is impossible for an effective political leader to tell the truth all the time. Complete honesty is not a useful virtue for a politician."
【翻译】:
对于一个英明的政治领导者来说，总是坦白是不可能的。彻底的诚实对于一个政治家来说是无用的美德。

请每位组员于12月10日 22:30之前，将各自的提纲贴在楼下.

McNeilUID: 2272415

167T "It is impossible for an effective political leader to tell the truth all the time. Complete honesty is not a useful virtue for a politician."
167． 一位卓有成效的政治领导人是不可能一直都讲真话的。对于政治家来说，绝对的诚实是无用的美德。

Position: 同意不需要完全讲真话，但就长期来看，诚实对领导也很重要
I agree that an effective leader do not need to be honest all the time, however, in the long term, honest is one of the indispensable characters.
①        政治家们为了让人们对他们的领导有信心，会说谎，尤其是竞选的时候。Politics 有时就是政治家之间的博弈。要施展自己的才华必须首先登上统治的平台in order to be effective a politician must gain and hold onto political power, which means winning election.。因此，如果人们普遍相信的东西是错误的，也要说谎。
②        A. 完全诚实对保住leadership不利为了保证国家的利益和安全，也应当说谎。如：使民众安心。不能complete forthright 维护国家稳定，政权稳定。 The direction should be selected to maintain the regime.
B. The majority should be directed in a proper way.
The majoritykey factor of the political power, basisthe majority’s attitude, sentiments, morale, etc. should be taken care of. result in some dishonesty.
③        但就长远来说，A 正直的人品才能真正获得民众的支持和信任如：Gandhi, Martin Luther King。
People always believe that the honesty is the essential character of a politician. They could endurance the deceit in some level such as the …., but the majorities also have the threshold and a smart and good politician should never challenge the bottom line of the majority.  They might spent a long time to verify the leaders but abandon/ discard and do not support the current leader any more just because one tiny cheat, this is what we called the fuse.
B：政治家们过分的/长期的欺骗民众会导致人民不相信政府并导致不满，并最终导致灾难性的后果。although in the short term being less-than-truthful with the public might serve a political leader’s interest in preserving power, would-be political leaders who lack requisite integrity ultimately forfeit their leadership

choupgheadUID: 2969431

       同意.

1.        仅从政治角度来说，一个领导人不可能总是说真话。如果这样，就会发生许多问题，例如：
可能会引起社会恐慌的灾难，国家利益受损等，从这个角度，我们也可以理解为什么政客的讲话总
是使用非常复杂的语言体系，就是因为如果谎言被民众揭穿他的名誉会受到影响，这种语言体系的
使用就是为了尽量避免这种情况的发生。

2.        然而，从狭义的道德角度来说，领导者是应该对民众诚实的，所以，领导人应该在不影响大
局的情况下尽量让民众知道更多的信息。而且，一旦谎言被揭穿，会对自己的政治生涯带来不可抵
消的负面影响。

melody-quUID: 2970250

1. Honesty is a virtue and should be cherish and worth honor. Without honesty,the society is out of credit.首先承认这种美德是值得提倡的。
2.Total honest is unwise and na?ve considering the special position ofpolitician. Part of the truth on different occasions is political strategies onthe condition that not hurt the benefit of the people.考虑到政治家的特殊身份，完全诚实不是很明智的决定。应该有选择的去公布一些事实，这也是政治策略之一，但是前提是为了更好的行使权力为国家人民服务。
3. If hide the truth and hurt the public benefit, it is unacceptable.如果对公众的不诚实损害到公众利益则是不可接受的。（这个我只想到水门事件了，没有什么创新的例子呢？求讨论）

muzhihao1UID: 2959675

1有的时候政治家不得不隐瞒事实。It’s paradoxical to require an effective politician to tell the truth all the time.  1The duty of an effective politician is to pursuit the maximal benefit of the public 2 rather detrimental than beneficial in some occasions< eg > to tell the truth 3 eg 4 conclude
2但不能由此得出，完全的诚实不是有用的品德。It sounds illogical to draw the conclusion that honesty is useless for a politician. 1不说真话不等于说谎。—一个有效地政治家应当具备有技巧回答问题的能力。《eg》 2即使真的时候政治家不得不说谎，诚实作为美德仍然是有效的。——对于政治家，诚实应当是他对自己的要求。对于民众，政治家的诚实是对其支持与否的重要标准。（任何在民众面前说谎的政治家都失去了民众的支持。eg）3所以，任何情况下我们都不能否认完全诚实的重要性。

3真正有效的政治家能做到在自己的良知面前保持诚实，同时在事实面前做到灵活处理。