困惑：非faculty规划的生物学生出国

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喔？读PHD的时候再读一个master，master的学费也是phd老板cover？？？ 43# 小鱼的口袋

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至少我所知的我认识的人，他们修统计都是老板pay的，当然前提是实验室的事情还是必须要做好
小鱼的口袋 发表于 2011-4-2 23:27

I guess you are also in the Bio research field in US now, then you might know what working full time as PhD student mean.

If one or two basic statistics courses, it will be OK as basic statistic is needed in this field. Our departemnt even offers own statistics course as a core that everyone need to take. Or if the lab works with Bio-statistics, it is all-right.

But if for another whole master degree, then there will be some porblem dealing with department policy and personal funding budget. Money is not that negotiable especially when you need to put it into your budget. If this degree and advaced courses are not needed in the funding supported project, the prof will have some risk of lost the whole funding, if known by NIH or other funding resources. Simple because some buget policy does not allow that. There are some budget with looser policy, then it is OK for the policy part, but still some risk.

And for many bosses, and actually we all know, it is clear impossible to work as good as it used to be when the guy is pursuing another un-related degree and certainly will not work in the lab's field again. So, most bosses will feel unhappy if you do so, if they are nice and do not stop you to do it, you still will have a not as good life in the lab.

Actually, I saw some people get kicked out because of un-needed courses, which I think might not be a bad thing.

Anyway, there might be some cases that is not usual in some department like yours. But for most cases, when this kind of thing happen, there are some under desk stories you do not know, even you know the people a lot, unless you do it yourself.

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喔？读PHD的时候再读一个master，master的学费也是phd老板cover？？？ 43# 小鱼的口袋
wwwabcd007 发表于 2011-4-3 00:06

I think for some nice boss, it might be OK to pay it yourself, as some post-doc do so.
But as I cited, most boss would not take the risk of loosing the funding to do it.

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至少我所知的我认识的人，他们修统计都是老板pay的，当然前提是实验室的事情还是必须要做好
小鱼的口袋 发表于 2011-4-2 23:27

You did it yourself, or you are in the same program and asked their boss?

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MASTER XIFU......................... 41# H1BMatch2012

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You did it yourself, or you are in the same program and asked their boss?
H1BMatch2012 发表于 2011-4-3 00:08

我身边这样的例子多了，我的朋友们也没必要骗我，即使有一两个要骗我也不用所有修统计的人都骗大家吧
有的老板同意修就修了，不同意修的不修好了
很多美国老板还是很尊重个人选择的
也有quit phd然后重新申请统计ms自费读的
各有各的选择而已
路有很多条，选择走哪条就根据自身和环境做不同的选择好了

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我身边这样的例子多了，我的朋友们也没必要骗我，即使有一两个要骗我也不用所有修统计的人都骗大家吧
有的老板同意修就修了，不同意修的不修好了
很多美国老板还是很尊重个人选择的
也有quit phd然后重新申请 ...
小鱼的口袋 发表于 2011-4-3 00:29

How many cases you know? Maybe LZ should go to your U.
If you share the the deparment's information, it will be good for the following Chinese student to change their major to statistics.
As, it is a rare case and the information will be very helpful.
Would you or your friends mind to share that?

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But if interested in physch, people can just try apply for it as they tend to recruit people from different background.
I have a friend simply switched PhD to master and then re-applied to physch without taking any course - no background at all. Havard offer.
This might be a choice if someone interested in physch.

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所以你是说你所知道的PHD，很少有机会修读另外的master，因为教授可能会因此失去funding
即是有另修master的情况，是有我们不知道的隐情？
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重新高考 或者考sat出来念本科

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呵呵，算是一条路。不过没太必要吧，考公务员或做生物老师了得了 55# atypia

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我说得是最干脆脱离生物的方法

如果你还要纠结生物里面找 若干年以后 同样有就业饱和的问题

而且这样转的代价原比本科生重读本科大

现在这个生物坑是政策性造成的

一大把博士都在读postdoc

本科三年 根本算还没入生物这行

一个生物男成功的path 本科4年+博士最少5年+两轮postdoc4年+tenure前4年
这都是成功人士
大部分只是读完7，8年博士 接着在博士后这一轮轮回

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这path到也没什么错。
我是想着如果出国读生物phd的话，完了就回国到二线学校做老师，感觉还是有需求

另外就算要跳出去也远没有sat或高考的必要吧 57# atypia

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这path到也没什么错。
我是想着如果出国读生物phd的话，完了就回国到二线学校做老师，感觉还是有需求

另外就算要跳出去也远没有sat或高考的必要吧 57# atypia
wwwabcd007 发表于 2011-4-10 22:49

现在二线学校也难进了
一线学校靠名气
二线学校靠关系

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恩~~~关系在哪里都管用的…… 59# Guessy