issue39 欢迎大家批评！

happyman2000UID: 136936

Issue 39 the intellectual benefits of attending a university or college are vastly overrated: most people can learn much more by studying or reading on their own for four years than by pursuing a university or college degree.
人们对进入大学学习的获益总是评价很高：许多人通过四年的学习学到的东西要比仅仅为了得到大学文凭学到的东西要多。

Though whether a university or college can help people improve their intelligence and morality still remains a topic open to dispute, one couldn’t deny the non-substitutable role of university or college in teaching and seminating knowledge. As a matter of fact, what one can acquire from four-year studying is far more than a mere university degree.

By alleging that most people can learn much by simply studying or reading on their own, the speaker completely ignores a basic fact in modern education that for most people, they have no enough genius to acquire what they want to learn independently in most academic fields. In the modern world, knowledge in either natural or social science has been accumulated to such an extent that even senior professionists in it had to do their utmost to keep pace with its ever-increasing complexity, profoundness and abstractness, not to mention the new beginners. In some areas such as mathematics, physics, economics and so on, even the most brilliant students will find it very difficult to apprehend what professors teach in classroom. It is said that graduates who major in economics in MIT spend at least seventy hours weekly in ruminating the teaching content in classroom or completing the exercises assigned by their tutors. Without the education provided by university, by no means can they make a small stride. Therefore, I suggest the above speaker to council some students in top universities all over the world. Undoubtedly, he will receive a relentless opposition about his/her absurd allegation.

Students attend university or college not only for inquiring for what they don’t understand, but also for taking advantage of all kinds of facilities or conveniences provided by university. Library, for example, is a place that all students must turn for to obtain references needed. For students majored in natural or technological science, they also depend on labs besides library. Communication between fellows, furthermore, is another critical factor that necessitates them to attend university. In addition, college or university provides students a competitive environment, which proves to be a useful catalyst to urge students to work harder and better. If someone stubbornly insists on learning or reading on his/her own, certainly he/she will fall into an unfavorable or incompetent situation compared with those in university for that he/she is inaccessible to all the educational facilities or conveniences in university or college.              

Last but not the least, besides teaching pure knowledge, college or university also undertakes the responsibility to imbue student with scientific spirits, morality, democratic consciousness and well-rounded personality. In some sense, the second duty of university is even more crucial to ensure a glorified future of both students and the society as a whole than the teaching of pure knowledge is. In reality, many insightful university or college has long seconded the very content of knowledge, and laid their main emphasis on the cultivation of those “life skills” mentioned above. More or less the possibility may exist that someone can acquire some pure knowledge by reading or study on his/her own. However, how can that person grow into a well-rounded one with all the above valuable characteristics merely by this means? If one simply believes university or college as a place to learn pure knowledge, he/she is certainly going astray and seriously ignores the essence and true purpose of college education.

In conclusion, without college or university, one would find him/herself in a desperate struggle for the answers of ever-increasing complex, profound and abstract problems, in such a disadvantageous position of utilizing all kinds of facilities and conveniences in colleges, and of honing some really valuable characteristics including scientific spirits, morality, democratic consciousness and well-rounded personality.  (608 words)

paisleyUID: 64183

happyman你可不可以告诉我的中文翻译是哪里来的？谁这么不负责任，把这么乱七八糟的东西拿来写给人家看？

你看这个题目，明明说的大学教育的价值被overrated，被夸大了，翻译却没有体现出来。后半句“自学”也没翻译出，还有什么“为了获得大学文凭而学习”这是哪里来的？题目中完全没这么说。题目虽然说到学位，但是意思是，通过正规的大学学习，意思是和自学做对比，而不是说为了获得学位而学习。

文章不错！后面都可以，虽然按你的理解有偏差，但是不看那中文翻译，也不觉得你偏题了。除了第一段最后一句话以外。PONIT和语言都很好。

qhywUID: 136716

经paisly这么一说，清楚多了，我也开始被这道题目搞得很晕！
这样的话，happyman持反对意见：大学的作用并没有被夸大，而是实实在在有用的，是自学所替代不了的！哈哈，一篇我一直以为跑题的文章又成了不错的文章了。嫉妒阿！

happyman2000UID: 136936

这个中文翻译的确很差，我在审题时已经注意到了。
我是从manfen网上download的issue题库，这个版本网上流行很广啊！gter上也有。
里面的错误的确不少，我已经看到有人被中文翻译所误导了。抨击这个粗制滥造的家伙！

imongUID: 140258

这个版本的语言还可以嘛……
我原先看的那个怎么乱七八糟的
我晕了？

我把一些用词作了修改，也许有不恰当之处，见谅。修改就直接做到原文上了，没有给单独标明，抱歉，和原文对比着看吧。

Though whether a university or college can help people improve their intelligence and moral standard still remains a topic open to dispute, one couldn’t deny the irreplaceble role of university or college(*redundance*) in teaching and seminating knowledge. As a matter of fact, what one can gain from four-year studying is far more than a mere university degree.

By alleging that most people can learn much more by simply studying (or reading) on their own, the speaker completely ignores a fundamental fact in modern education that for most people, they have no enough talent to attain their want independently in most academic fields. In the contemporary society, knowledge in either natural or social science has been accumulated to such an extent that even senior professionists in(*?!!*) it had to do their utmost to keep pace with its ever-increasing complexity, profoundness and abstractness(不一定非要堆词), not to mention the new beginners. In some areas such as mathematics, physics, economics and so on, even the most brilliant students (will) find it very difficult to follow the lecturers (teach) in their classroom. It is reported that MIT graduates majored in economics spend at least seventy hours every week in ruminating the teaching content in classroom or working on their assignments. Without the education provided by university, by no means can they make a small stride. Therefore, I suggest the above speaker to council some students in top universities all over the world. Undoubtedly will he/she receive a relentless opposition against his/her absurd allegation. 用词的感觉不好，没有完全改。

Moreover, students attend university or college(不一定非带着吧，只说university或者higher education就好了，复述原文也是有技巧的) not only for inquiring for what they don’t understand, but also for taking advantage of all kinds of utilities only available in higher education institutions. Library, for example, is a place to which all students must turn for certain reference. Besides, laboratories are also of vital importance to students majored in natural science or technology science(有technology science这个term吗？). Communication between fellows, furthermore, is another critical factor that necessitates them to attend university. In addition, college or university provides students a competitive environment, which proves to be a useful catalyst to urge students to work harder and better. If someone stubbornly insists on learning or reading on his/her own, certainly he/she will fall into an unfavorable or incompetent situation compared with those in university for that he/she has no access to all the educational facilities or conveniences in university or college.  犯了一个大忌讳，list bone论证，写了n多但是没有一个展开了，even拿evidence support一下都没有，不应该啊，摇头ing……如果要这么写的话，不要多，要精，集中论述一辆格巨重要的           

Last but not the least, apart from teaching pure knowledge, college or university also undertakes the responsibility to imbue student with scientific spirits, morality, democratic consciousness and well-rounded personality(有不搭配现象). In some sense, the second（这么指代不清楚） duty of university is even more crucial to ensure a glorified future of both students and the society as a whole than the teaching of pure knowledge is. In reality, many insightful university or college has long seconded（？） the very content of knowledge, and laid their main emphasis on the cultivation of those “life skills” mentioned above. More or less the possibility may exist that someone can acquire some pure knowledge by reading or study on his/her own. However, how can that person grow into a well-rounded one with all the above valuable characteristics merely by this means? If one simply regard university or college as a place to learn pure knowledge, he/she is certainly going astray and seriously ignores the essence and true purpose of college education. He/she太多了就用不定指代或者复数，或者被动语态。Believe as都写得出来……汗……

In conclusion, without college or university, one would find him/herself in a desperate struggle for the answers to ever-increasing complexity, (profound and abstract problems,) in such a disadvantageous position of(?!!) utilizing all kinds of facilities and conveniences in colleges, and of honing some really valuable characteristics including scientific spirits, morality, democratic consciousness and well-rounded personality.