迷惘，医学硕士，研三了，请大家出出主意，谢谢。

H1BMatch2012UID: 2790388

Strongest?
Maybe like " You XXX skill will fit our group, and you will have great chance to success in my lab.  I have several other nice Chinese working in my lab and you will have many friends here. Please let me know as soon as you apply and do not hesitate to ask about anything, so as I can pick up your application at the first time. When will you be able to come at the earliest? I will reserve a desk, an office, a new laptop, and specific instruments for you. Looking forward for your reply."

Well, just kidding. A example of positive reply I used to get was like "Are you still intereted in my group? Bala Bala" Most time it is hard ti get this kind of reply. That case was a special one and probably will not fit other people. Also I did not go there, but just my own experience.

The reply LZ got do is not positive. Get something more specific might mean spoitive or negative depends on what prof says. But this kind of reply LZ get actually means the prof did not even pay much attention.

GuessyUID: 2184792

我做的实验内容是分子生物学，实验内容很简单，做的是泛素化相关蛋白二级结构域的。

不过我申的是神经，问的老板们大多都做的通道啊神经元啊，不会和他们match...

我承认我接到他们内容稍微热情点的回信就有点忘乎所以了，没怎么去想他们到底是什么态度，就是觉得没拒绝，肯回信就对我不错了，所以有点高兴。

谢谢指出来，不过就算老板积极回应，我肯定也过不了研究生院那关的。

Guessy姐能不能出点主意，看我能靠上哪类学校？
shujimi 发表于 2011-11-8 15:06

其实如果教授肯要你 研院那边倒不是不可以通融

我觉得你的背景 多申一些 能有学校给你全奖就不错了 50名左右就很不错了

shujimiUID: 3110809

Strongest?
Maybe like " You XXX skill will fit our group, and you will have great chance to success in my lab.  I have several other nice Chinese working in my lab and you will have many friends here ...
H1BMatch2012 发表于 2011-11-8 15:18

Thanks for telling me that, I really didn't interpret their words well and weighed myself too much...my ignorance is just stupid...

H1BMatch2012UID: 2790388

Try find a matched prof will give you a much better chance.
Who is the reviewer of you first author paper? Try contack with them, as they should know you better all ready.

But if you want to swith to neuroscience, it will be a bit hard to convince the prof.s. Neuroscience might be more difficult than MCB and BioChemistry.

If one prof wants you strongly, sometimes, they can override the graduate school. And maybe for some graduate program view publication most important, you will also have a chance. But I do not know which one. You will also need good luck. Also, use your connections if you have, like from your boss.

shujimiUID: 3110809

其实如果教授肯要你 研院那边倒不是不可以通融

我觉得你的背景 多申一些 能有学校给你全奖就不错了 50名左右就很不错了
Guessy 发表于 2011-11-8 15:25

谢谢Guessy姐的意见。

我还想多嘴问问，先不讨论具体问题，就大环境而言，学校对学生的研究经历和GPA之间的权衡一般是怎么进行的？

可以相互弥补？还是平行权衡？还是一旦有短板就舍去？

评奖的话，和GPA是直接挂钩还是综合评判？

我知道这些个问题很复杂，也有很多运气成分在里面。

感谢大家的耐心。

唉，发泄下情绪，真后悔小时候不努力，懊悔，大家切勿步我后尘。

shujimiUID: 3110809

Try find a matched prof will give you a much better chance.
Try find a matched prof will give you a much better chance.
Who is the reviewer of you first author paper? Try contack with them, as they should know you better all ready.

But if you want to swith to neuroscience, it will be a bit hard to convince the prof.s. Neuroscience might be more difficult than MCB and BioChemistry.

If one prof wants you strongly, sometimes, they can override the graduate school. And maybe for some graduate program view publication most important, you will also have a chance. But I do not know which one. You will also need good luck. Also, use your connections if you have, like from our boss.H1BMatch2012 发表于 2011-11-8 15:42

My first author manuscript is about a rare inflammation disease, I really dont want to continue working at that subject any more.

I do wish to switch to Neuro but I'm not sticking on it , I know neuro is way more difficult than MCB is, the competing level, especially among foreign students is extremely high.

MCB is also good field to me. Anyway, I dont stand a chance to pick them as i wish :)

thank you for encouraging me to keep trying, I feel a little better now.

:)

GuessyUID: 2184792

谢谢Guessy姐的意见。

我还想多嘴问问，先不讨论具体问题，就大环境而言，学校对学生的研究经历和GPA之间的权衡一般是怎么进行的？

可以相互弥补？还是平行权衡？还是一旦有短板就舍去？

评奖的话，和GPA是直接挂钩还是综合评判？

我知道这些个问题很复杂，也有很多运气成分在里面。

感谢大家的耐心。

唉，发泄下情绪，真后悔小时候不努力，懊悔，大家切勿步我后尘。
shujimi 发表于 2011-11-8 15:49

well...it really depends.

For those schools that take students based on committee decisions, they favor high GPA students.
For schools that professors can take students themselves, they tend to be more flexible. As long as the prof wants you, you can get admitted.

But, it doesnt really make a difference. Put it this way, your publication is good, but not super outstanding. When your GPA is too low, your GPA will be your disadvantage. GPA and research can compensate each other but only to a moderate level. You cant get in with good research background and failing GPA.

For financial support...you dont need to worry about it. Those programs you wanna get in, as long as you get in you'll get money.

GuessyUID: 2184792

My first author manuscript is about a rare inflammation disease, I really dont want to continue working at that subject any more.

I do wish to switch to Neuro but I'm not sticking on it , I know neuro is way more difficult than MCB is, the competing level, especially among foreign students is extremely high.

MCB is also good field to me. Anyway, I dont stand a chance to pick them as i wish
shujimi 发表于 2011-11-8 16:04

1. You dont need to work on exactly the same thing. There are other relevant fields that are different topics but similar ideas and using similar techniques. You may think about those. Otherwise you are wasting your research background, especially you dont really have super strong background in the first place.

2. MCB is easier than neuro but not really that easy. Given your background, I'd say ur super lucky if you get in top50 MCB. MCB always goes with immunology which is a super hot research field. Some schools do not even take international students in MCB.
Im at UBC (canada) and I know UBC MCB rarely take any international student directly from China. Not to mention your GPA is not even close to competitive.

shujimiUID: 3110809

1. You dont need to work on exactly the same thing. There are other relevant fields that are different topics but similar ideas and using similar techniques. You may think about those. Otherwise y ...
Guessy 发表于 2011-11-9 02:19

Thank you Guessy, for being so patient with my trivial questions, you are really nice.

It seems GPA will hinder me a lot. I know my crap GPA will be a main defect in my application, but I didnt truely realize how critical it was....
My previous thoughts were that for graduate students, research experience is prior to undergraduate GPA,  I even hope they won't take my GPA into consideration...

It's silly... I know.. ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!



Having said that, thank you again for your suggestion, I think I can get it clearly and reassess myself to find a matching position/field for me.

nice Guessy.

BTW, if I have additional questions and need your help again, could I PM you or you just want to reply in this thread?

I am now still hesitating about whether I shall try this year or just to find a job and then to apply for schools  next year with better G/T scores and preparation.

GuessyUID: 2184792

research经历是很重要的 这是真的
但你要考虑一个问题 对于UBC这种水平的学校 哪个申请人会没有research经历呢？
非常可能的情况就是有一大批和你research背景一样好 但GPA比你高10%的人和你竞争 这样你很明显就被比下去了
完全不考虑GPA是不可能的 除非你能把research做到吓死教授的程度 保证在所有申请者里可以算得上万里挑一 否则你的GPA就会成为你的障碍

我觉得你今年应该申请 你现在的问题不是G/T而是GPA 再等一年你也拿不到更高的GPA了 为什么不试一下 就算今年失败了 明年还可以再申 但今年不申那就肯定是走不了

GuessyUID: 2184792

另外 我建议你考虑稍微中等水平一点的学校 这样竞争相对小一些 你的科研优势可能就体现出来了 现实一些吧 UCB你真的没可能的

shujimiUID: 3110809

谢谢，实际上我没有瞄准UCB这类牛校，只是有家庭因素在里面，父母望子成龙心态很严重。
本科烂到家，但是硕士十分努力，发文章以后刺激了父母的信心，我爹看到我成长的势头以后变得盲目。
加上我自己对困难估计不足，所以才顺应我爹，准备申这类学校。

现在我基本上也看清楚自己是什么水平了，但是今年要说服家里让我申中等一些的学校，很难。我说今年试，是想试那些不需要申请费的学校，限制很大，怕是很难找到自己中意的。我爹说G考得差，没希望申请到牛校，连申请费都不会让我浪费，我自己也没能力负担这些，无路可走的感觉。现在想想也挺寒心的，有点辛酸。前途挫折的时候家庭不能做后盾，反而让你感觉到冷暖，有点不是滋味。

牢骚下，这些是自己的问题。很多人走这条路都坎坷过，不过还是要积极面对。

谢谢Guessy, 我会选合适自己的学校的，非常感谢你的耐心！

felix19890115UID: 2734811

bless LZ

GuessyUID: 2184792

家庭的压力确实是非常难承受的 我也有类似的经历 被家人过高期望是非常痛苦的事情
这个我建议你尽量和父母沟通吧 我也想不出什么更好的办法 只能祝你好运了

shujimiUID: 3110809

家庭的压力确实是非常难承受的 我也有类似的经历 被家人过高期望是非常痛苦的事情
这个我建议你尽量和父母沟通吧 我也想不出什么更好的办法 只能祝你好运了
Guessy 发表于 2011-11-10 14:18

谢谢，三穷三富不到老，现在的波折我就当是磨练吧，总比老了以后再受这么些挫折好。

大家都加油！