issue52 文章+优秀讨论 by imong

DriverEntryUID: 143979

请大家帮忙看看是否跑题？例子是否恰当？另外我觉得写的不好，不知道从哪个角度论证更好些？ 谢谢先！

52"Education encourages students to question and criticize, and therefore does little to promote social harmony."

Does education do little to promote social harmony, since it encourages students to question and criticize? Some people maintain that the answer is no, and they may think that question and criticize often lead to conflicts. While it is true that question and criticize sometimes lead to conflicts, it also often contributes to the harmony among people, because question and criticize help to mutual understanding.

Firstly, only those people who dare to question can obtain truly understanding with others. There are all kinds of persons living in a society. A person often meets someone who has different opinions, customs and so on. For example, a student who likes silence probably lives with a neighbor who likes talking and enjoying loud music. If the student to be taught only to comply with others, he may comply at surface of his heart, but indeed, he may feel very boring when his neighbor plays music loudly. Nevertheless, if the student is taught to question and criticize, he will try to talk with his neighbor and exchange ideas each other. After that, his neighbor may understand the student and use earphones to listen music. Thus, they live together harmoniously.


Secondly, to teach students to question is good to their development in both personality and study.  Through questions, students can understand more things and think more deeply. Sometimes, they even find something of great value. For example, one time, a teacher let his students to calculate from 1 to 100. After his order, all the students began to calculate at once except one student. He, unlike others, just sit there thinking. The teacher was curious and then asked him why he did not calculate. The students replied that he was thinking a good method to calculate. Then teacher said there was no other good method for calculating except plus the numbers one by one. However, the students doubted it and continued thinking. After a while, he got the result of the question that the answer was 5050. At the same time, other students were still busy in calculating. The teacher then ask the student how he got the result, the students said that he first plus 1 with 100, the result was 101, then plus 2 with 99, the result was still 101. According to this method, the answer was  50 times 101, that was 5050. The students finally became a famous scientist. This story tells us that only through questions, can the truth be obtained. If the students just complied with teacher, he would never find such wise method to calculate.

All in all, to question is so important of a student that it helps student to develop his own thoughts, and at the same time, it will do good to harmony.

icanUID: 132489

好像例子叙述过长，分析少了点，这样不知是否合适？

coolwitsUID: 149150

我过会来看

coolwitsUID: 149150

52"Education encourages students to question and criticize, and therefore does little to promote social harmony."

Does education do little to promote social harmony, since it encourages students to question and criticize? [这句看着怎么这麽诡异？；）]Some people maintain that the answer is no, and they may think that question and criticize often lead to conflicts. While it is true that question and criticize sometimes lead to conflicts, it also often contributes to the harmony among people, because question and criticize help to[advance] mutual understanding.

Firstly, only those people who dare to question can obtain truly understanding with[of] others. There are all kinds of persons living in a society. A person often meets someone who has different opinions, customs and so on.[这里也是意犹未尽，然后呢？] For example, a student who likes silence probably lives with a neighbor who likes talking and enjoying loud music. If the student to be taught only to comply with others, he may comply at surface of his heart, but indeed, he may feel very boring when his neighbor plays music loudly. Nevertheless, if the student is taught to question and criticize, he will try to talk with his neighbor and exchange ideas each other. After that, his neighbor may understand the student and use earphones to listen music. Thus, they live together harmoniously.
[because question and criticize help to advance mutual understanding. 这句不是你的ts吗？
怎么放到首段去了？如果是文章中心的话，那第三段不就偏了？]


Secondly, to teach students to question is good to their development in both personality and study. Through questions[questioning], students can understand more things and think more deeply. Sometimes, they even find something of great value. For example, one time, a teacher let his students to calculate from 1 to 100. After his order, all the students began to calculate at once except one student. He, unlike others, just sit there thinking. The teacher was curious and then asked him why he did not calculate. The students replied that he was thinking a good method to calculate. Then teacher said there was no other good method for calculating except plus the numbers one by one. However, the students doubted it and continued thinking. After a while, he got the result of the question that the answer was 5050. At the same time, other students were still busy in calculating. The teacher then ask the student how he got the result, the students said that he first plus 1 with 100, the result was 101, then plus 2 with 99, the result was still 101. According to this method, the answer was 50 times 101, that was 5050.[晕，这个例子so长， 好像也不能说明they even find something of great value.把] The students finally became a famous scientist. This story tells us that only through questions, can the truth be obtained. If the students just complied with teacher, he would never find such wise method to calculate.
[这里就说可体培养creativity不就行了]

All in all, to question is so important of a student that it helps student to develop his own thoughts, and at the same time, it will do good to harmony.

[限时感觉就是不一样啊，兄弟， 你我同是天涯沦落人啊。
我觉得还是要多写，把自己的模板摸索出来
多模靠， 严格要求自己]

鱼的宝贝UID: 150861

要是我的话会这样写
position 社会的和谐发展是三方面组成的: 科学,人才,道德标准,都需要在不停的质疑及批评中前进.
1．社会和谐发展的首要条件是人才，然而人才的形成需要在教育的过程中不断的提问及批评。包括对别人，及自己的思想进行质疑。 没有质疑就没有进步。{还有你说的那个小孩，那个家伙叫高斯（Carl Friedrich Gauss）德国人，著名的数学家、天文学家、物理学家}只有不断思考，不断质疑，不停的进行批评和自我批评才能使人全面的发展,举例如苏格拉底，站在广场上经常向人们进行提问。
2．社会的和谐离不开科学的进步.然而科学的进步是在不停的质疑和批评中发展的。每当一个新的理论提出的时候，都需要被别人提出问题，然后更新。例子很多的
3．社会和谐需要人们形成一个共同的道德标准。然而人们是不相同的，形成一定的道德标准需要质疑自己，质疑社会不合理现象然后的形成自己的道德观。例如，一条法律的形成，及认识这条法律就是这样的过程。

DriverEntryUID: 143979

你的提纲有一定道理，不过这个和谐到底怎么体现还是不很清楚。
另外你的提纲感觉有点偏。题目是“教育有没有促进社会和睦？”。而你的提纲象是在说社会和谐发展需要提问和质疑。

galaxysongUID: 152834

The topic is so valuable that I can't help to say something about it.
I fundamentally agree with the first two points of the ontline offered by "鱼的宝贝". However, the third one begs the question and is too far-fetched.
Should I write the third point, it would be as follows:

In fact, it is more detrimental to social harmony to make students bigoted by conventional ideas than to make critical and creative students (therefore open to new ideas). Because as long as a society advances, new ideas must fight against old ones, and the more bigots there are in the society, the harder and more costly such conflicts will be.

It's a little long, but it is worth writing, isn't it?

DriverEntryUID: 143979

还是不明白。和谐和发展并不是一回事啊。不过这样联系起来倒市比较好写。

鱼的宝贝UID: 150861

我的理解这样的，仅供参考：

教育之所以有害于社会和谐，是因为它鼓励学生批评和质疑。（把话反过来说了一下，说明我的重点）关键在于质疑及批评。

关于社会和谐应该在开头第一段就提出，以定义来指出什么是社会和谐，从而在引申出社会和谐在于科技，人才和道德三方面相结合，这三个方面都是需要教育鼓励学生进行质疑和批评。

关于body3， 我个人的理解是，社会需要一定的道德规范来维持其和谐发展，而人们认识及理解这个道德规范是需要批评和质疑过程的。其实也是隶属于critical thinking 中间的一个部分。本人是理科生，不知道文科的东西尤其是政治这方面该怎么叙述。可能有一点偏颇，SORRY

鱼的宝贝UID: 150861

社会如果不发展，哪里来的和谐一说啊

DriverEntryUID: 143979

但是发展也不一定就导致和谐啊。比如在推翻封建主义的过程中，社会在发展，但是和谐吗？
很多时候发展就是要不和谐的：比如改革开放，在刚开始招来很多异议，很多人说是在搞资本主义，这叫和谐吗？

雪夭UID: 142334

怎么说呢，我不知道自己的理解可不可以，我把和谐具体话，当作作者认为赞同可以促使和谐
所以我的第一点就写了意一味的同意不是和谐
不知道这样行不

imongUID: 140258

第一句话问题主要出在does..do 和since的组合上（感觉实在诡异，估计是有问题）

最好改变一下用词，例如infer，reason，attribute等等动词，两头用its encouraging之类的名词来做。个人看法。

galaxysongUID: 152834

看来我还得用中文。
我那一段话是说：
如果教育培养出来的人多数不会critical thinking，也往往不容易接受新事物，会成为进步的阻力。然而，社会总是要发展的，新与旧的冲突不可避免，所以进步的阻力越小，社会就越稳定。这也是为什么成功的企业或组织都提倡critical thinnking的原因之一。

fishergirlUID: 152325

52"Education encourages students to question and criticize, and therefore does little to promote social harmony."
教育鼓励学生们提出问题和进行批判，这样做的结果无助于促进社会的和谐。

Does education do little to promote social harmony, since it encourages students to question and criticize? Some people maintain that the answer is no, and they may think that question and criticize often lead to conflicts. 不好意思，我看了三遍，还是觉得你好像将do little to理解为“有助于”了？ While it is true that question and criticize sometimes lead to conflicts, it also often contributes to the harmony among people, because question and criticize help to mutual understanding.

Firstly, only those people who dare to question can obtain truly understanding with others. There are all kinds of persons living in a society. A person often meets someone who has different opinions, customs and so on. For example, a student who likes silence probably lives with a neighbor who likes talking and enjoying loud music. If the student to be taught only to comply with others, he may comply at surface of his heart, but indeed, he may feel very boring when his neighbor plays music loudly. Nevertheless, if the student is taught to question and criticize, he will try to talk with his neighbor and exchange ideas each other. After that, his neighbor may understand the student and use earphones to listen music. Thus, they live together harmoniously.


Secondly, to teach students to question is good to their development in both personality and study. Through questions, students can understand more things and think more deeply. Sometimes, they even find something of great value. For example, one time, a teacher let his students to calculate from 1 to 100. After his order, all the students began to calculate at once except one student. He, unlike others, just sit there thinking. The teacher was curious and then asked him why he did not calculate. The students replied that he was thinking a good method to calculate. Then teacher said there was no other good method for calculating except plus the numbers one by one. However, the students doubted it and continued thinking. After a while, he got the result of the question that the answer was 5050. At the same time, other students were still busy in calculating. The teacher then ask the student how he got the result, the students said that he first plus 1 with 100, the result was 101, then plus 2 with 99, the result was still 101. According to this method, the answer was 50 times 101, that was 5050. The students finally became a famous scientist. This story tells us that only through questions, can the truth be obtained. If the students just complied with teacher, he would never find such wise method to calculate. 这个论点和相应的论据对于文章的中心思想有什么支持作用呢？感觉好像有点跑题了。

All in all, to question is so important of a student that it helps student to develop his own thoughts, and at the same time, it will do good to harmony.

整体感觉文章对于“和谐”的理解好像浅了一点。窃以为题目的主旨是要讨论培养学生质疑和批判思想的这种教育方法是否有助于促进社会和谐，因此比较同意“鱼的宝贝”的观点。

立意：教育学生养成质疑和批判的思维习惯，表面会导致冲突，但其目的是为了最后的和谐。而社会的和谐正符合这一规律――在不断的矛盾冲突中逐步达到新的和谐。
1．教育的目的在于教书育人，既传授知识又培养性格。让学生养成质疑和批判的习惯，有助于他们在今后的工作生活中善于发现问题，碰撞出思想的火花，从而促进社会的进步。社会的进步本身就是一个由不和谐到和谐的求同存异的过程。因此，这种教育手段可以促进社会和谐与发展。
2．人才培养是教育和社会共同的问题，也是社会进步与和谐发展的基本要求。善于批判和质疑的人才是推动社会进步的主力军。同时，人才的培养过程就是一个批判与自我批判，将自己与他人，与社会需求逐步达到和谐的过程。
3．科学的进步由人才来完成。按照哲学上“否定之否定”的原理，科学在不断的螺旋式上升中。每完成一次否定，原有的和谐局面被打破，新的和谐建立，科学就向前进了一步。
4．社会，其和谐是由人类的和谐来体现的。人类的和谐由合理的社会准则来保障。随着社会的进步，原由的一些准则必然不适合新的阶段，这就需要有人来质疑，批判和改进，达到新的平衡。
5．但是凡事皆有度，过分的批判与质疑就成了怀疑一切和否定一切的偏执。正确的态度应该是在批判的同时取其精华，去其糟粕。另外，教育学生质疑和批判的同时要教会他们听取和学习他人的正确建议。这是批判性思维能够最终促进和谐与发展的基础。

Galaxysong的这个观点很有新意，我很喜欢。如果放在第四点里面应该可以吧？