Issue126 请大家严厉批评！决不手软！谢谢！

libbyUID: 151455

126.Society's external rewards are no measure of true success. True success can be measured only in relation to the goals one sets for oneself.
8:50
Nowadays, there is a growing discussion about success because many people want to achieve. Then what is the criterion of the success? The speaker asserts that the external rewards are no measure of true success, and the success only can be measured by the goals one sets for oneself. In fact, success is a relative concept and there is no absolute success. Therefore, there are no criteria to measure the true success.

The first and foremost, success is a relative concept so that people said someone succeeded at his or her field, which is comparing him or her with the other persons who are the same field as his or her. It is well-known that the people who gained the Noble Prize could be considered as successful people because they made the most important contributions to human beings; when it comes to their research fields, most people would believe they are truly successful; moreover, the Noble Prize as a society's external reward shows recognition (establishment) to their success; so at this time, such external reward is a measure of true success.

However, even if these who won the Noble Prize could consider that they are not very successful because there is still a distance to their goals, so the success seems that it isn't true success. As a case in point is that athletes who could win the laurels of the Olympic Games still felt regretful for the competition since they did not reach the goals that they set for themselves before the games. Can you say that they are not success or success? Maybe for average people could think they succeeded; but they themselves could still be not satisfied with their own shows. So it is true that success is no absolute standards.

Further, people who work in ordinary positions still make great contributions to the society, don't they succeed. For example, a doctor who always worked in a hospital and few persons knew him or her, devoted his or her precious life to the nation during the process of proposing SARS. Who can say he or she is not successful? Actually, in many people's view, he or she succeeded though he or she never gained any rewards or even not attained his or her goal. Hence, it is no denying that success is an absolute conception.

Maybe people always talk about what is the true success; in my opinion, success is no absolute criteria, and different people could have different views about it. In the mean time, the external rewards of society could be a signal of relative success.
9:34
我觉得字数太少了，知道的事例也很多，但觉得谈多了又觉得重复！时间也不够，结构上感觉好象也有问题，当时写的时候就是不知道怎样将结构安排好！谢谢各位，提点意见！

bluewayne77UID: 127317

Nowadays, there is a growing discussion about success because many people want to achieve. 第一句没写完？
The speaker asserts that the external rewards are no measure of true success，no ?是打字错误吧？
which is comparing him or her with the other persons who are the same field as( his or her) 有些重复，最好去掉
when it comes to their research fields, most people would believe they are truly successful 看得很迷糊，指代能不能清楚一点？谁得奖？谁相信？是同一批人吗？prize winner 这个词比较好吧？
我觉得楼主经常爱用 be + no ...的用法不太好（个人感觉）
从构思上看，限时写作能写成这样已经不容易了，不过我觉得楼主还可以提高一下分论点的高度，比如人是社会动物，成功与否离不开社会的评判。
以上完全代表个人意见，纰漏之处请楼主原谅！

libbyUID: 151455

bluewayne77
真的很感谢你！你说的很有道理的！谢谢！
Nowadays, there is a growing discussion about success because many people want to achieve. 第一句没写完？我怎么觉得我写完了啊？我感觉我就想说越来越多的人想成功，所以就经常谈论成功，那你认为该怎么表达比较好啊？
The speaker asserts that the external rewards are no measure of true success，no ?是打字错误吧？no是用来修饰measure的，就是没有一个尺度的意思，我是这样想的。
which is comparing him or her with the other persons who are the same field as( his or her) 有些重复，最好去掉，这个我同意！
when it comes to their research fields, most people would believe they are truly successful 看得很迷糊，这里是有点指代不清的！但我不知道该怎样表达，我想说的是在那些同一研究领域的人会认为这些人很成功，而他们自己不一定这样认为！指代能不能清楚一点？谁得奖？谁相信？是同一批人吗？prize winner 这个词比较好吧？这个词很好，我记下了~！谢谢！
我觉得楼主经常爱用 be + no ...的用法不太好（个人感觉），我就是的，我以后的改改谢谢！

mingjizheUID: 150019

Society's external rewards are no measure of true success. True success can be measured only in relation to the goals one sets for oneself.
8:50
Nowadays, there is a growing discussion about success because many people want to achieve.（achieve it? 是不是少宾语） Then what is the criterion of the success? The speaker asserts that the external rewards are no measure of true success, and the success only can be measured by the goals one sets for oneself. In fact, success is a relative concept and there is no absolute success. Therefore, there are no criteria to measure the true success.

The first and foremost, success is a relative concept so that people said someone succeeded at his or her field, which is comparing him or her with the other persons who are the same field as his or her. It is well-known that the people who gained the Noble Prize could be considered as successful people because they made the most important contributions to human beings; when it comes to their research fields, most people would believe they are truly successful; moreover, the Noble Prize as a society's external reward shows recognition (establishment) to their success; so at this time, such external reward is a measure of true success.

However, even if these who won the Noble Prize could consider that they are not very successful because there is still a distance to their goals, so the success seems that it isn't true success. As a case in point is that athletes who could win the laurels of the Olympic Games still felt regretful for the competition since they did not reach the goals that they set for themselves before the games.（在具体点，比如100米跑，人们想跑进9.74s,夺冠不是目的，重要的是puo记录） Can you say that they are not success or success? Maybe for average people could think they succeeded(这句是不是有点问题); but they themselves could still be not satisfied with their own shows. So it is true that success is no absolute standards.

Further, people who work in ordinary positions still make great contributions to the society, don't they succeed. For example, a doctor who always worked in a hospital and few persons（是不是people, not persons） knew him or her, devoted his or her precious life to the nation during the process of proposing SARS. Who can say he or she is not successful? Actually, in many people's view, he or she succeeded though he or she never gained any rewards or even not attained his or her goal. Hence, it is no denying that success is an absolute conception. （这个想法不错，偶是想不出来的）

Maybe people always talk about what is the true success; in my opinion, success is no absolute criteria,(success is no criteria 成功不是标准？？, 应该是有没有标准no concrete criteria to judge whether he or she is a success) and different people could have different views about it. In the mean time, the external rewards of society could be a signal of relative success.

libbyUID: 151455

谢谢！mingjizhe
Hence, it is no denying that success is an absolute conception. （这个想法不错，偶是想不出来的）
我打错了不好意思，开大玩笑了！呵呵！
谢谢！我觉得你给我的那个事例很好真的，但在写的时候就觉得不能清楚的表达它！我记下了！