issue181 教育类

libbyUID: 151455

181.The way students and scholars interpret the materials they work with in their academic fields is more a matter of personality than of training. Different interpretations come about when people with different personalities look at exactly the same objects, facts, data, or events and see different things.
8:56
It is true that different people have different views. Facing the same facts, events or objects, individuals will have distinctive opinions about them due to the different of background of persons such as education, culture, and academic fields. But in academic fields, students and scholars interpret the materials mainly depend on their academic training and the scope of knowledge, but not the personality.

In academic fields, many valuable findings or profound knowledge are involved in the facts, events, or data, and need the academic training and knowledge to explain them. Take a chemical research as an example; in the process of a chemical experiment, people need to investigate special phenomenon, record the data, analysis these phenomenon, results and data, which need the academic knowledge; students and scholars must apply their academic knowledge to the experiment, and think why it is this but not that, what these data means, what connection is involved between this experiment and another one and so on. All of these must own academic training; as outsiders as are considered, they could know little about these; they don't know why these happened, and let alone the basic theory of the experiment; they only know what happened during the experiment. Hence, it is necessary/essential for students and scholars to train in academic fields.

Moreover, academic training is beneficial students and scholars to achieve their goals. Why our students need to study in university? The chief goal of the education is to give students academic knowledge, and make them fit for technological and research work. If the personality can decide the way of students interpreting the materials, it is unnecessary for people to cost so much money and energy to study academic training. In addition, scientific researches need objective view; if people rely on their personalities to explain the data, facts etc, there will be lose the objectivity of science, and there will be no objective criteria. Personality is a subjective idea, which mainly relies on individual. Therefore academic studying can benefit people to consider the matters more objectively and correctly.

Admittedly, sometimes, personality could affect our views. It is commonplace that when facing the same thing, different people have distinctive opinions. For example, some people think teenage abortion is immoral and unlawful, but others support it because they believe it is personal right. Such distinction originates the distinction of the status, the background and personality of the individuals. Perhaps radical people who have strong personalities would maintain it; on the contrary, the conservative person will protest it. In this case, the personality plays a vital role.

In all, the way people interpret the materials more relies on their academic knowledge, and it is essential for students and scholars to hold academic training. Relatively speaking, personality also plays a less role in the process of explanation.
9:37
我考完会回来回报大家的，没有办法了！谢谢！

dezhiUID: 156141

181.The way students and scholars interpret the materials they work with in their academic fields is more a matter of personality than of training. Different interpretations come about when people with different personalities look at exactly the same objects, facts, data, or events and see different things.
8:56
It is true that different people have different views. Facing the same facts, events or objects, individuals will have distinctive opinions about them due to the different of 这里有问题，different是形容词呀！background of persons such as education, culture, and academic fields. But in academic fields, students and scholars interpret the materials mainly depend on 这个句子出现了两个谓语动词，不如在interpret之前加一个who吧！their academic training and the scope of knowledge, but not the personality这个but是不是有点多余，我觉得不用更好.

In academic fields, many valuable findings or profound knowledge are involved in the facts, events, or data, and need the academic training and knowledge to explain them. Take a chemical research as an example; in the process of a chemical experiment, people need to investigate special phenomenon, record the data, analysis这个词好像是名词吧：） these phenomenon, results and data, which need the academic knowledge; students and scholars must apply their academic knowledge to the experiment, and think why it is this but not that是不是有点汉语思维，只是觉得不太好，不知道英语中这么说好不好, what these data means, what connection is involved between this experiment and another one and so on. All of these must own 为什么用这个词哪？own主语必须使人吧？academic training; as outsiders as are considered, they could know little about these; they don't know why these happened, and let alone the basic theory of the experiment; they only know what happened during the experiment. Hence, it is necessary/essential for students and scholars to train这里是不是应该用被动语态？ in academic fields.

Moreover, academic training is beneficial 这里少了一个介词吧？students and scholars to achieve their goals. Why our students need to study in university此句有严重的语法错误呀，Why后面缺东西? The chief goal of the education is to give students academic knowledge, and make them fit for technological and research work. If the personality can decide the way of students interpreting the materials, it is unnecessary for people to cost 用词错误，人作主语应该是用spend这样的词so much money and energy to study academic training. In addition, scientific researches need objective view; if people rely on their personalities to explain the data, facts etc, there will be lose the objectivity of science此句不成句, and there will be no objective criteria. Personality is a subjective idea, which mainly relies on individual. Therefore academic studying can benefit people to consider the matters more objectively and correctly.

Admittedly, sometimes, personality could affect our views. It is commonplace that when facing the same thing, different people have distinctive opinions. For example, some people think teenage abortion is immoral and unlawful, but others support it because they believe it is personal right. Such distinction originates不用介词吗？ the distinction of the status, the background and personality of the individuals. Perhaps radical people who have strong personalities would maintain it; on the contrary, the conservative person will protest it. In this case, the personality plays a vital role.

In all, the way people interpret the materials more relies on their academic knowledge, and it is essential for students and scholars to hold academic training. Relatively speaking, personality also plays a less 是不是应该加以个形容词？role in the process of explanation.

全文思路清晰，论证充分，也举了有说服力的例子。
不过，我觉得，第二三段的论证不是太具有逻辑性，只是一种感觉。
用了不少很棒的短语，但出现了几个不成句子的句子，希望有更大进步：）

libbyUID: 151455

dezhi非常感谢！你的意见真的很好！你真的是很仔细的，看了我的issue的！很感动的，谢谢了！我现在改改你再看看吧！
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libbyUID: 151455

It is true that different people have different views. Facing the same facts, events or objects, individuals will have distinctive opinions about them due to the differences of background of persons such as education, culture, and academic fields. But in academic fields, the way of students and scholars interpreting the materials mainly depend on their academic training and the scope of knowledge, but not the personality.

In academic fields, many valuable findings or profound knowledge are involved in the facts, events, or data, and need the academic training and knowledge to explain them. Take a chemical research as an example; in the process of a chemical experiment, people need to investigate special phenomenon, record the data, analyze these phenomenon, results and data, which need the academic knowledge; students and scholars must apply their academic knowledge to the experiment, and think why it is this but not that, (是不是有点汉语思维，只是觉得不太好，不知道英语中这么说好不好,我也不知道改怎样表达啊！ ), what these data means, what connection is involved between this experiment and another one and so on. All of these must need academic training; as outsiders as are considered, they could know little about these; they don't know why these happened, and let alone the basic theory of the experiment; they only know what happened during the experiment. Hence, it is necessary/essential for students and scholars to join the training in academic fields.

Moreover, academic training is beneficial for students and scholars to achieve their goals. Why do our students need to study in university?（这里真的犯了低级错误，555….） The chief goal of the education is to give students academic knowledge, and make them fit for technological and research work. If the personality can decide the way of students interpreting the materials, it is unnecessary for people to spend so much money and energy to study academic training. In addition, scientific researches need objective view; if people rely on their personalities to explain the data, facts etc, there will lose the objectivity of science, and there will be no objective criteria. Personality is a subjective idea, which mainly relies on individual. Therefore academic studying can benefit people to consider the matters more objectively and correctly.

Admittedly, sometimes, personality could affect our views. It is commonplace that when facing the same thing, different people have distinctive opinions. For example, some people think teenage abortion is immoral and unlawful, but others support it because they believe it is personal right. Such distinction originates from the distinction of the status, the background and personality of the individuals. Perhaps radical people who have strong personalities would maintain it; on the contrary, the conservative person will protest it. In this case, the personality plays a vital role.

In all, the way people interpret the materials more relies on their academic knowledge, and it is essential for students and scholars to hold academic training. Relatively speaking, personality also plays a less significant role in the process of explanation.
9:37
自己改了一下，写的太差劲了！谢谢大家的批评，对我很好的！你们使劲的批吧！我很高兴的！

dezhiUID: 156141

不客气了，呵呵
还有几个问题：
1、 All of these must need academic training这里连用must和need，不太好吧，不如直接就说All of these need academic training
2、 it is unnecessary for people to spend so much money and energy to study academic training.后面没有改过来，spend ... in doing...
3、there will be lose the objectivity of science这一句中,there后面可以接实义动词吗？
全是个人观点，我的水平也不高，嘿嘿

fishergirlUID: 152325

No.1 issue181 教育类！应该比较好写的，但字数少了些，不到500 sigh！大家帮忙看看吧！时间不多了，急！
181.The way students and scholars interpret the materials they work with in their academic fields is more a matter of personality than of training. Different interpretations come about when people with different personalities look at exactly the same objects, facts, data, or events and see different things.
It is true that different people have different views. Facing the same facts, events or objects, individuals will have distinctive opinions about them due to the differences of background of persons such as education, culture, and academic fields. But in academic fields, the way of students and scholars interpreting the materials mainly depend on their academic training and the scope of knowledge, but not the personality.

In academic fields, many valuable findings or profound knowledge are involved in the facts, events, or data, and need the academic training and knowledge to explain them. Take a chemical research as an example; in the process of a chemical experiment, people need to investigate special phenomenon, record the data, analyze these phenomenon, results and data, which need the academic knowledge; students and scholars must apply their academic knowledge to the experiment, and think why it is this but not that, (是不是有点汉语思维，只是觉得不太好，不知道英语中这么说好不好,我也不知道改怎样表达啊！ ) why it is itself but not any other else?, what these data means, what connection is involved between this experiment and another one and so on. All of these must need academic training; as outsiders as are considered, they could know little about these 指代什么？不如改为the superficial phenomenon; they don't know why these happened, and let alone the basic theory of the experiment; they only know what happened during the experiment. Hence, it is necessary/essential for students and scholars to join the training in academic fields. 感觉这一大段看的头晕，很多的these, that有种指代不明的感觉。不如写一个具体的小实验来的清楚。

Moreover, academic training is beneficial for students and scholars to achieve their goals. Why do our students need to study in university?（这里真的犯了低级错误，555….） The chief goal of the education is to give students academic knowledge, and make them fit for technological and research work.这句话和我上次写的那篇正好矛盾――Education should be equally devoted to enriching the personal lives of students and to training students to be productive workers. If the personality can decide the way of students interpreting the materials, it is unnecessary for people to spend so much money and energy to study academic training. In addition, scientific researches need objective view; if people rely on their personalities to explain the data, facts etc, there will lose the objectivity of science, and there will be no objective criteria. Personality is a subjective idea, which mainly relies on individual. Therefore academic studying can benefit people to consider the matters more objectively and correctly.

Admittedly, sometimes, personality could affect our views. It is commonplace that when facing the same thing, different people have distinctive opinions. For example, some people think teenage abortion is immoral and unlawful, but others support it because they believe it is personal right. Such distinction originates from the distinction of the status, the background and personality of the individuals. Perhaps radical people who have strong personalities would maintain it; on the contrary, the conservative person will protest it. In this case, the personality plays a vital role.

In all, the way people interpret the materials more relies on their academic knowledge, and it is essential for students and scholars to hold academic training. Relatively speaking, personality also plays a less significant role in the process of explanation.

学生和学者们在诠释学术研究对象时使用的方法更多的是一种个性化（因人而异）而非一种培训（模式化）。不同的诠释来自于具有不同个性的人在看待相同的目标、事实、数据或者事件的时候以及他们在看待不同事情的时候。――个体和整体之学术方法论

好像你的理解和这个翻译有点出入。这是我下载的，不知道对不对。

如果按照它的翻译，那你这样写就有点偏了。感觉你的思路是：学生和学者在诠释研究对象时更多的依靠其学术背景，而不是其性格？如果按你的理解，这样写可以，只是语言上还要加油：）但是如果按照上面的翻译来写，恐怕就要推翻重来了！

libbyUID: 151455

spend ... in doing...就是正确的，这个自己又犯错误了！55555....
there be句型好象不可以接实义v的，谢谢！

libbyUID: 151455

fishergirl
真的很感谢你！你到提醒我了，我的看看我是不是写偏了，那就完了！谢谢！我得好好改改这篇！那你的意思是不是性格决定了他们对objects, facts, data, or events and see different things这些的解释啊？这道这么一说有点晕了！.

fishergirlUID: 152325

我不是这个意思，我是说：学生和学者们现在解释很多现象的方式是一种个性化的，而不是一种统一的模式。他们的这种个性化的来源和他们自身的性格、学术背景等因素有关系。

我提供的翻译中的“个性”不等同于“性格”，而是“共性”的对立面。

libbyUID: 151455

学生和学者们在诠释学术研究对象时使用的方法更多的是一种个性化（因人而异）而非一种培训（模式化）。不同的诠释来自于具有不同个性的人在看待相同的目标、事实、数据或者事件的时候以及他们在看待不同事情的时候。――个体和整体之学术方法论
那你同意那样的观点吗？？？看待同一事情，我觉得不同学术领域的人有不同的看法比如说，但说到历史时，历史学家回用历史事件来看问题，而数学家回用数据来说明！我也不知道我说什么拉！你说说你的看法好不？谢谢！

gdhdannyUID: 125843

personality:
1.an offensively personal remark;
2.the collection of emtional and behavioral traits that characterize a person;
3.distinction of personal and social traits;
4.a well-known person

我觉得social traits的含义包括了libby所讲到的学术背景问题，但只是一部分，眼光可以更开阔些。

libbyUID: 151455

gdhdanny

谢谢！你考完了吧！记的多回来照顾一下我们啊！我就是没有理解personality的意思，谢谢！

fishergirlUID: 152325

最初由 gdhdanny 发布
[B]personality:
1.an offensively personal remark;
2.the collection of emtional and behavioral traits that characterize a person;
3.distinction of personal and s..

以下省略...... [/B]

正是这样 :)