Issue65 学术、工作、生活上看待问题的方法；一致Vs差异

dezhiUID: 156141

Issue65 学术、工作、生活上看待问题的方法；一致Vs差异
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作者：dezhi     共用时间：45+5分1秒     496 words
从2004年2月19日11时6分到2004年2月19日11时45分
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People have been so encouraged by society to focus on apparent differences that they fail to see meaningful similarities among ideas, individuals, and groups.
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Position : Agree
1、在科学研究过程中，继承和发展一致的观点很重要，一味地追求差异而忽略共性，反而会一事无成。
2、在一个团队或者组织中，基本原则或者理念上的一致性、相同性也很重要。反之，一定要与别人不一样，特立独行之人也往往会被集体所抛弃。
3、让步：一致是要有限度的，没有差异的完全一致是有害的，无论在学术上还是在组织里。
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Do people fail to see meaningful similarities among ideas, individuals, and groups while focusing on apparent differences encouraged by society, just as the speaker asserts? I fundamentally agree with the speaker, and bolster the suggestion that meaningful similarities should catch people's attention as well.

First of all, similar ideas in scientific research are not less significant than different ones. As we know, scientific and technological development is a process of accumulation absorbing wisdom and intelligent thoughts of forerunners. One needn't become upset when he or she promotes an idea or thought that has been already claimed. To consider and comprehend the similarities between two ideas and then make advancements or form a better solution, is also a success indeed. One of he greatest scientists, Newton, once said that "I can see further just because I stand on the shoulder of giants". This statement best demonstrates the significance of similarities in scientific search. On the other hand, trying to search for entirely different ideas without taking meaningful similarities into consideration is most likely to lead to failure in the end. In a word, similarities make sense in scientific field.

The second reason I would like to point out is that fundamental similarities ought to be encouraged in a group as well. Members in a group come from different environment with various experiences. Then what brings all of them together? It is no doubt that similarity, not differences, serves it. Perhaps their common interest in playing football, same purpose to pass an examination, or just impetus to communicate with each other makes a group reasonable. Adversely, turning out to be different from the mainstream in a group would probably make itself rejected. Imagine a student who tries to be different at school. If he or she plays video games day after day, make fun of others at dormitories, and cheat in the final examination, he/she would be criticized by the school and teachers, while no other pupils would like to play with he/she any more. To conclude, similarity is in need in groups most of the time.

Although I concede that similarities is important in many aspects of our daily life, entire similarity without differences would surely do harm to the society and individuals themselves. Similarity is the foundation of further research and a group, while difference is the motivation of innovation. In scientific field, similarities without differences would make scientists reluctant to figure out innovative ideas or make creative experiments. They would just go behind the authorities, without even criticizing or arguing with them. In such an absurd way, the development of science would be slowed down instead of being stimulated. On the other hand, entire similarities in a group lead to agreement and compromise among group members. Furthermore, it is the different characteristics among group members that make teamwork a really fantastic and pleasant procedure. In the final analysis, entire similarity without differences is not beneficial anyway.

To sum up, although focusing on apparent differences is important encouraged by society, it is also significant to pay more attention to meaningful similarities among ideas, individuals, and groups.

超时5分钟，写得挺烂的，感觉好像还有点跑题（对题干把握的不好）
有时间的朋友帮我看看吧

dallowayUID: 156640

dezhi大哥真高产啊，先顶一下，等我写好提纲，慢慢欣赏

linakUID: 155465

呵呵，偶也来顶一顶

dallowayUID: 156640

我是写disagree的，而且是在文化层面上，和孙远的提纲有些像。
提纲
1 不是现在才集中，而是以前就有。
2 还是有很多相似性的，全球化进程，使文化有种融合、趋同的趋势。
3 要承认多元化，承认差异存在，在理解的基础上，求大同存小异。
斗胆给dezhi大哥修改一下，纯属个人意见啊

Do people fail to see meaningful similarities among ideas, individuals, and groups while focusing on apparent differences encouraged by society, just as the speaker asserts?（感觉这个一般疑问句有点奇怪，不如改成some…others…） I fundamentally agree with the speaker, and bolster the suggestion that meaningful similarities should catch people's attention as well. (文章并没有限定是在科学领域，是否在首段应该有限定的话呢？)

First of all, similar ideas in scientific research are not less significant than different ones. As we know（It is known to all）, scientific and technological development is a process of accumulation absorbing （这词不太好吧）wisdom and intelligent thoughts of forerunners. One needn't become upset when he or she promotes an idea or thought that has been already claimed. To consider and comprehend the similarities between two ideas and then make advancements or form a better solution, is also a success indeed. One of he greatest scientists, Newton, once said that "I can see further just because I stand on the shoulder of giants". This statement best demonstrates the significance of similarities in scientific search. On the other hand, trying to search for entirely different ideas without taking meaningful similarities into consideration is most likely to lead to failure in the end. In a word, similarities make sense in scientific field.（我觉得题目里有个挺关键的词－apparent，需要花点笔墨）

The second reason I would like to point out is that fundamental similarities ought to be encouraged in a group as well. Members in a group come from different environment with various experiences. Then what brings all of them together? It is no doubt that similarity, not differences, serves（work） it. Perhaps their common interest in playing football, same purpose to pass an examination, or just impetus to communicate with each other makes a group reasonable. Adversely, turning out to be different from the mainstream in a group would probably make itself rejected. Imagine a student who tries to be different at school. If he or she plays video games day after day, make fun of others at dormitories, and cheat in the final examination, he/she would be criticized by the school and teachers, while no other pupils would like to play with he/she any more. To conclude, similarity is in need in groups most of the time. （例子不太好，he/she的用法虽然正确，但能否用one或定语从句之类的替换一下？）

Although I concede that similarities is important in many aspects of our daily life, entire similarity without differences would surely do harm to the society and individuals themselves（反身代词读来有些别扭，可能是我不习惯这么用）. Similarity is the foundation of further research and a group, while difference is the motivation of innovation.（有些武断，怎么有点像那道从异己者身上学的更多的issue题？呵呵） In scientific field, similarities without differences would make scientists reluctant to figure out innovative ideas or make creative experiments. They would just go behind the authorities, without even criticizing or arguing with them. In such an absurd way, the development of science would be slowed down instead of being stimulated. On the other hand, entire similarities in a group lead to agreement and compromise among group members. Furthermore, it is the different characteristics among group members that make teamwork a really fantastic and pleasant procedure. In the final analysis, entire similarity without differences is not beneficial anyway.

To sum up, although focusing on apparent differences is important encouraged by society, it is also significant to pay more attention to meaningful similarities among ideas, individuals, and groups.

lovebrianUID: 157127

body1 论证过程很漂亮 ts transition evidence comment conclusion 走的路线很漂亮
     缺点：强调的是科学领域，题目没有设范围阿？我觉得不必在ts or conclusion上届定范围，举例的时候拿科学领域为例子就行了~~你觉得呢？（dezhi兄，好像跟提纲不太符合阿 ：））

body2 把例子换了就行了~~感觉这个例子无关哪！

body3 没什么大问题。

看来整篇文的受体是科学，团队，稍稍引申为其他好多方面，一直扣住了科学和团队。你感觉不舒服的地方古迹就是这个了，首先科学和团队不能作为两个并列的东西来分方面讨论，不是一个角度的嘛！然后，两个东西不能扩展嘛！有局限性~~~~

偶的卓见啦~~呵呵

dezhiUID: 156141

谢谢dalloway！
apparent确实没有太在意，可我不知道这一点应该怎么论述？

例子确实够烂，我再想.....

至于武断问题是我一直的毛病，继续努力改正中......

再一个，觉得你的提纲确实不错，比我写的好，也严谨，谢谢分享，学习！

dezhiUID: 156141

谢谢lovebrian的意见！

你说的很对，我人为地对题目加了限定，觉得不是很舒服，我发现有的题目可以这么写，有的不行，不知道有没有什么标准？

“科学和团队不能作为两个并列的东西来分方面讨论，不是一个角度的嘛，然后，两个东西不能扩展嘛！有局限性~~~~”－－有道理！这么分类不科学，也有局限性

总之，这个Issue写的真失败，提纲就有问题，得动大手术了。

再次感谢dallowayJJ和lovebrianGG！

fishergirlUID: 152325

Do people fail to see meaningful similarities among ideas, individuals, and groups while focusing on apparent differences encouraged by society, just as the speaker asserts? I fundamentally agree with the speaker, and bolster the suggestion that meaningful similarities should catch people's attention as well.

First of all, similar ideas in scientific research are not less significant than different ones. As we all know, scientific and technological development is a process of accumulation absorbing wisdom and intelligent thoughts of forerunners. One needn't become upset when he or she promotes an idea or thought that has been already claimed. To consider and comprehend the similarities between two ideas and then make advancements or form a better solution, is also a success indeed. One of he the greatest scientists, Newton, once said that "I can see further just because I stand on the shoulder of giants". This statement best demonstrates the significance of similarities in scientific search. On the other hand, trying to search for entirely different ideas without taking meaningful similarities into consideration is most likely to lead to failure in the end. In a word, similarities make sense in scientific field.

The second reason I would like to point out is that fundamental similarities ought to be encouraged in a group as well. Members in a group come from different environment with various experiences. Then what brings all of them together? It is no doubt that similarity, not differences, serves it. Perhaps their common interest in playing football, same purpose to pass an examination, or just impetus to communicate with each other makes a group reasonable. Adversely, turning out to be different from the mainstream in a group would probably make itself rejected. Imagine a student who tries to be different at school. If he or she plays video games day after day, make fun of others at dormitories, and cheat in the final examination, he/she would be criticized by the school and teachers, while no other pupils would like to play with he/she any more. To conclude, similarity is in need in groups most of the time. 例子的老问题，还有别的例子吗？

Although I concede that similarities is important in many aspects of our daily life, entire similarity without differences would surely do harm to the society and individuals themselves. Similarity is the foundation of further research and a group, while difference is the motivation of innovation. In scientific field, similarities without differences would make scientists reluctant to figure out innovative ideas or make creative experiments. They would just go behind the authorities, without even criticizing or arguing with them. In such an absurd way, the development of science would be slowed down instead of being stimulated. On the other hand, entire similarities in a group lead to agreement and compromise among group members. Furthermore, it is the different characteristics among group members that make teamwork a really fantastic and pleasant procedure. In the final analysis, entire similarity without differences is not beneficial anyway.

To sum up, although focusing on apparent differences is important encouraged ? by society, it is also significant to pay more attention to meaningful similarities among ideas, individuals, and groups.

我觉得这篇文章的论证还不够深入，分领域写也是一种不错的想法，不过你分的这两个领域相互之间的对照性好像不太好：）

我的提纲：
position：中立。
1．现实社会中的确存在许多只重视差异的现象，因为现在社会的倾向就是鼓励创新，鼓励与众不同，只要有合适的理由。学术界鼓励提出新思想，社会中特立独行的人也被誉为“有个性”。这是在过去长期的思想高度统一后出现的人们渴求解放思想的真实体现，也是社会进步的表现。
2．但是，事物的同一性同样也是不可忽视的。许多看似分属不同领域的思想其实都有其内在的关联性。牛顿的例子可以，学科交叉的例子也可以。
3．我们看问题不能片面，即要重视差异，也要重视共性。分歧合差异是进步的原动力，但共性是进步过程顺利完成的保证和基础。

想听听你的意见。

fishergirlUID: 152325

最初由 lovebrian 发布
[B] 科学和团队不能作为两个并列的东西来分方面讨论，不是一个角度的嘛，然后，两个东西不能扩展嘛！有局限性[/B]

呵呵，英雄所见略同！

最初由 lovebrian 发布
[B] 偶的卓见啦~~呵呵[/B]

嘿嘿，你的卓见？我的可是拙见 :D

juliozhaoUID: 144326

我体会你的初衷是要把题目中的三点分别的论述，
但个人感觉这种方法还是尊重题目提到的点，
不要自己提炼出其他的点。（没有根据的！只是个人观点！！）
1ideas
2individuals
3groups

一点建议，仅供参考！！！

dezhiUID: 156141

fishergirl的提纲不错
可我还从来没有写过这样中立的文章，就是A对+B对＋A和B缺一不可
能更多的说一下这种写法吗？
我写过的基本上都是A对（分两个段落）＋让步（或者A有些问题，或者不能忽略B）

dezhiUID: 156141

谢谢juliozhao，那正是我的初衷，但是感觉不太好写，就光挑了一、三点，而且把第一点看作是科研领域的ideas了
汗~~~，弄巧成拙了

lovebrianUID: 157127

最初由 fishergirl 发布
[B]嘿嘿，你的卓见？我的可是拙见[/B]

哎呀~~丢人了~~打错子了~~
555555
丢人啊~~~~555

lovebrianUID: 157127

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B]谢谢lovebrian的意见！

你说的很对，我人为地对题目加了限定，觉得不是很舒服，我发现有的题目可以这么写，有的不行，不知道有没有什么标准？

“科学和团队不能作为?.

以下省略...... [/B]

东方的老师说，很抽象的题目就得具体化了来写~~~至于其他的限定~~~似乎不要加吧~~嘿嘿

fishergirlUID: 152325

最初由 dezhi 发布
[B]能更多的说一下这种写法吗？
[/B]

我也说不好，只是把在看你的文章时的思路写上来了。