GRE作文6分教学博客

skyrebeccaUID: 2466097

报名求指导，10.25在济南考，6月底1战的时候作文3.5。感谢！！

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建议建个威信或者skype群之类的，好实时更新，有时候上不了网错过了更新会比较遗憾。

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skyrebecca 发表于 2014-10-10 21:16
咦~你也在济南考~

不知道考场怎么样

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报名报名，重庆，11月底考

奋斗的小鸟-VigUID: 3420938

托福作文25， 上次考G AWA 3.0分
刚好还有两周……时间紧迫啊……
在西安
报名~~~

tesolchinaUID: 2191404

奋斗的小鸟-Vig 发表于 2014-10-11 15:46
托福作文25， 上次考G AWA 3.0分
刚好还有两周……时间紧迫啊……
在西安

https://bbs.gter.net/thread-1777362-1-1.html
你好 请按照这里的指引回帖评估自己的issue和argument，我会及时回复你的具体问题。

mr.aceUID: 3461353

想问问老师对时间有什么建议没有？作为考过一次的，我的感觉是技巧是一方面，另外一个就是时间。所以想请问老师对于这次活动，拟提纲，列思路，以及中文解释全部做完大概应该在多久之内完成？或者说最开始几次用多少时间，熟练之后用多少时间。自己定有点没谱。

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mr.ace 发表于 2014-10-11 23:14
想问问老师对时间有什么建议没有？作为考过一次的，我的感觉是技巧是一方面，另外一个就是时间。所以想请问 ...

我们这个互改小组试图将写前的准备和写作本身区分开来，写之前的立论、组织、找例子等等其实是不需要限时的，对于那些出现多次的题目，花较多的时间准备也是值得的。关键是要有足够清晰的思路和充分的论据（合适的例子）。而写全文的话，如果之前准备充分，应该慧快一些，至于对自己时间的限制可能因人而异了。最理想的当然是能在20分钟内写完。对于大部分以4分为目标的同学，其实不必追求600字以上。OG中的4分也不到400字。
另外，打字速度也很重要，有时间可以去 http://play.typeracer.com/测一下打字速度。

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王老师你好，我已经加入了你的 gre作文互改组 ，但是我不太会用，
每天的布置的作业和互改的地方  在哪里呢？？？
考过一次gre  不过aw 3分 ~~~~(>_<)~~~~
  11.1 再战  gre

tesolchinaUID: 2191404

写好Issue的关键是要有一个复杂、有层次并整合的观点

以我这次考的issue 89 为例
Claim: Many problems of modern society cannot be solved by laws and the legal system. Reason: Laws cannot change what is in people's hearts or minds.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

我的基本观点是同意reason但不同意claim。同时，我从个人、企业和政府三个层面来论述。
第二段 从个人层面讨论法律可以通过提供incentive和disincentive来调整人的行为 举例包括冲红灯 酒驾  指出即使法律无法改变人的想法 只要能改变人的行为就能解决很多问题

第三段 从企业的层面讨论 法律可以通过提供incentive和disincentive改变企业经理人的行为 举例是逃税问题 通过罚款来减少逃税 即使经理不愿意交税 也得交

第四段 从政府的角度讨论 法律赋予政府权力 调配资源解决各种社会问题 举例是小布什的No Child Left Behind Act 其实对于那个Act我只知道这个名字 具体是什么完全不记得了  不过这些法案都离不开拨款 所以就说这个Act给联邦政府资金去帮助那些穷人读的学校  

以上三段都在最后部分提到reason 指出虽然法律无法改变思想 但可以改变行为 从而解决问题。写到这里本来可以结束的 但还有10分钟时间为了保险起见 加了第五段
第五段 既然法律这么牛 为什么还有这么多问题没有解决呢 问题不在于法律不能改变人的思想 而在于我们未能充分发挥法律的潜能 unleash the potential of the legal system  
第六段 结束 同意reason 但不同意 claim 强调一下法律制度还有潜力可挖

tesolchinaUID: 2191404

有洞见的论证需要题目未提及的核心概念为支撑

OG中提到要有insightful的分析和论证，我个人的经验是，在讨论issue的时候，需要引用一些题目中未提及但是能帮助我们思考的概念作为工具。以89题为例，我运用的是法律的经济学分析中的经典理论- incentive theory。当然这样说有点装，其实曼昆总结的十大经济学原理的其中一条就是人会回应激励。由此可见，要想在issue写作中构建一个内容丰富、令人信服的论证，必须借助我们平时积累的知识。

这里Claret写的issue 6的中间段就存在这个问题。由于没有恰当的概念（干货）作为支撑，中间段写得比较单薄。

小卉同学打算先准备作文素材，我觉得这种方法有风险，原因是不先根据题目想思路，用现成的例子来套题目很容易偏题。后来在互动讨论中涉及到提纲如何准备才充分的问题。我想这个问题还是要回到干货的问题上来。

写提纲的时候一定要想清楚每个点如何展开 包括用什么例子 因为很多想法好像很好 但是一旦写起来才发现不行 就是因为例子不合适 或者表达不清楚 所以通常我们写的提纲在实际操作中都会出问题  其实一个真正想明白了的提纲是不会那么容易忘记的 这里面涉及到干货  

所谓干货就是在论证过程中用到的原题没有的概念，这些概念为我们的论述提供了有力的支撑。随便找一篇我写的范文里都会有这种干货。
我在博客26楼有更详细的解释。

就拿前天有同学考到的 issue 38来说

Issue 38

It is primarily through our identification with social groups that we define ourselves.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the statement and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, you should consider ways in which the statement might or might not hold true and explain how these considerations shape your position.


For all human beings, identity is a complex and perplexing issue. Some argues that, to answer the question “Who am I?”, we have to identify with different social groups.  While I agree that we need to participate in different social communities in order to construct our identities, interacting with our parents, partners and children in private relationships is also an essential aspect of our identities.  

One important identity marker is our nationality or citizenship.  Although our nationality was determined at the time we were born, we have to participate in a number of specific social activities in order to express our identities as a citizen of a particular nation.  One obvious thing is to speak the national language shared by all the people from that nation.  Through speaking the language fluently and write in that language competently we immediately identify ourselves with all the other fellow citizens of the nation.  In addition, we also support the Constitution of our nation and participate in the democratic processes such as electing the president and the Congressmen.  Such political acts we engaged in with other fellow citizens also define us as a member of the nation.  

这道题中间第一段里的干货是什么？  

首先就是social group这个概念具体化为nation 这是写这道题的基础 没有这个具体化 这道题根本没法写下去
其次我们要将identification with social groups操作化 就是这个identify with的具体内涵是什么 怎么做到 基于前面的nation as a social group
我们很自然地想到 speak national language, support Constitution, participate in democratic processes这类更具体的行动  
这就是干货
严格来说这不是具体的事例，但是却能起到支持论点的作用


再看一题

Issue 5：

Claim: Governments must ensure that their major cities receive the financial support they need in order to thrive.

Reason: It is primarily in cities that a nation's cultural traditions are preserved and generated.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

Due to the development of modern technology, many people are concerned about how to preserve their nations’ cultural traditions and promote their national identities for the new generations who have been exposed to globalised culture with little local flavour.  Since government resources are limited, it is argued that major cities should be the top priority for financial support because the cultural traditions are generated and preserved here.  While I agree that major cities are important for preserving and generating cultural tradition, other areas are equally important in many countries.  Since cultural programs in major cities can receive support from different financial sources such as advertising, donation of city residents and big corporations, government money should be invested to programs in small towns and rural regions where resources from private sectors are not available.

There is no doubt that major cities are important sites for celebrating cultural traditions.  Take the well-known Statue of Liberty in New York City as an example.  This giant copper statue was a gift of France to the US and has become a popular icon for freedom and democracy inspiring people all over the world.  In late 19th century and early 20th century, Statue of Liberty had welcomed nearly 14 million immigrants who entered the United States through New York. For these immigrants and their descendants, the Statue of Liberty was a symbol of hope and freedom.  For the rest of the United States, the Statue of Liberty celebrates diversity and tolerance, the core values that define the cultural tradition of a young republic.

Despite the importance of major cities for cultural traditions, government funding should not be heavily invested here because there are other funding sources available.  The national park service that manages the Statue of Liberty in New York, for example, receive financial support in the form of admission ticket fares from thousands of tourists who come to visit everyday from all over the world.  Major corporations and private citizens also donated large amount of money to the private foundation built for the Statue of Liberty.  In addition, the cultural heritage site also attracts thousands of volunteers every year to donate their time to the daily operation of national park services for the Statue of Liberty.  Therefore, as this example adequately illustrates, cultural traditions in major cities are not the top priorities for government funding given all the alternative sources for funding and support.

中间第一段以自由女神像作为cultural tradition的具体象征，也是运用了将抽象概念具体化的策略。然后通过讨论这个statue的历史故事和文化意义再回到抽象的层面。
而第二段则是通过探索其他可能性，在讨论政府资助的基础上，谈到其他可能的支持包括门票收入、捐赠和义工。这些都是在考虑其他可能性的时候拍脑袋想出来的干货。没有这些干货，文章是不可能这么丰满的。


复杂、有层次的观点是GRE作文的骨架，而通过对文章的创意解读来找到的干货则是GRE作文的血肉。5月组的同学很多都已经掌握了骨架的构建，即将开启更加艰苦的探寻干货之旅。

tesolchinaUID: 2191404

写issue的中间段要确保举的例子支持观点、同时要集中讨论一个分论点

有版友在考场上抽到自己练过的题目分数仍然不理想，仔细读过他的习作后发现，他的中间段未能支持自己提出的观点或者每句话都涉及到不同的分论点，以致整篇文章的论证力度和说服力较弱。这里有我的点评，供大家参考。

tesolchinaUID: 2191404

issue题库中有一类题型要求指出自己论证可能受到的挑战并作出回应。
    Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with
    the claim. In developing and supporting your position, be sure to address the most
    compelling reasons and/or examples that could be used to challenge your position.
在149道题中占24道，虽然不算多却难度不小。12年的一个帖子提出如何回应的问题，恰好说明这是大家很困扰的一个问题。我在那个帖子的8楼做了回应，欢迎参与讨论。

tesolchinaUID: 2191404

刚才读到一个老帖子 coffee看新G
是11年刚改版的时候资深版主Coffee写的 他的很多观点我深以为然  只是描述的篇幅很长 有点 TL;DR的感觉

打算请某位组员（ZKY;ZF; TYF?) 整理一下他的想法 放在这一楼供大家参考  
明天要给本科生上课 我却在这里procrastinate 实在罪过！

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我为什么不顶一个呢？又不费什么事