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PUBRY 发表于 2015-3-25 07:27
版主大人，如果Duke那边有留学基金委的全额资助，那该怎么选呢？

csc资助学费的指标很难拿到吧，一般都是给生活费吧

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lxf19930328 发表于 2015-3-25 10:23
csc资助学费的指标很难拿到吧，一般都是给生活费吧

我觉得是有希望。
去年人大拿了不少，当然，这和他们本身就十分优秀（比我优秀很多）有关

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-3-24 23:59
個人認為duke不值那個錢……

What if Duke gives me 40% tuition waiver?
I reckon LSE EME/ECON a wonderful place for those without disadvantages in maths courses; but for me, I think this program is too short and the course design is not flexible enough. By contrast, Duke provides a better platform on which I can select more maths and advanced econ courses.

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PUBRY 发表于 2015-3-25 20:02
What if Duke gives me 40% tuition waiver?
I reckon LSE EME/ECON a wonderful place for those witho ...

if I were you, and if I am sure I will go academic:

as I had TSE/LSE (??), I will try my best to find some other method to make up my math background, instead of go to Duke first (as the placement of Duke don't worth it.......why I have to pay 60% of the tuition, i.e. near 55K USD for two year, if I have a cheaper choice with similar or even better result?). If such doesn't work, go Duke, which is really flexible and have good time period also.

I don't know your transcript, but I will suggest to see if it is possible to make the math (adv econ is not a problem, every decent econ master have that) up back in any summer school.

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-3-25 20:41
if I were you, and if I am sure I will go academic:

as I had TSE/LSE (??), I will try my best ...

But I have to say the placement of LSE Econ and TSE Econ is not better than Duke, especially judging from the the number of Chinese students who go to top 20 universities in US. There are less than 3 students who went to US top 20 universities from TSE (although we have students going to Columbia)

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PUBRY 发表于 2015-3-25 21:21
But I have to say the placement of LSE Econ and TSE Econ is not better than Duke, especially judgi ...

因为reapply这事太麻烦了吧，大多数人不会想考2次qualify exam的，tse本身的placement又不差除非进top5不然我估计大多数人没什么动力走了

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sleeps0ft 发表于 2015-3-25 21:32
因为reapply这事太麻烦了吧，大多数人不会想考2次qualify exam的，tse本身的placement又不差除非进top5不 ...

额，top5倒不至于，我觉得应该是top15-20吧。storm学长不就是去了columbia吗
尽管很喜欢TSE，他家申请欧陆学校的结果也很赞，但是申请美国的学校确实还是挺一般的

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PUBRY 发表于 2015-3-25 21:38
额，top5倒不至于，我觉得应该是top15-20吧。storm学长不就是去了columbia吗
尽管很喜欢TSE，他家申请欧 ...

看了眼今年tse上市phd里的top手里也有aer和ej这样的优秀发表了，不弱于美国顶尖学校的顶尖学生，这种情况下除非出现什么意外不然我觉得phd candidate应该没什么incentive跳槽的（更别说跳去top10以下），毕竟都到这一步了学校的title也没啥意义，不值得多花那么多功夫，毕竟学校本身的资源已经足够把你打造成一个star————道理和us top30的一般不reapply应该一样，安安逸逸做研究然后想办法出挑比brand price更有价值，尤其是还有你去了better pool结果因为才能限制得不到资源倾斜最后泯然众人的risk（即便都能毕业前发aer，在tse被倾斜照顾发aer的难度总该小于去了波士顿然后和哈佛的怪物[e.g kojima]竞争好）

当然average及以下的学生是另一回事，不过这种lv的学生基本蹦也蹦跶不到哪里去了应该

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sleeps0ft 发表于 2015-3-25 22:05
看了眼今年tse上市phd里的top手里也有aer和ej这样的优秀发表了，不弱于美国顶尖学校的顶尖学生，这种情 ...

TSE的博士很强，这确实是。但现实是：TSE-M1里面的160人只有15个人能有机会进TSE的PhD。而且我感觉法国最优秀的经济学学生应该都会来TSE，这个竞争也是很激烈的；我一个十分优秀的师兄去了TSE，感觉在那边都cannot survive

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PUBRY 发表于 2015-3-25 22:33
TSE的博士很强，这确实是。但现实是：TSE-M1里面的160人只有15个人能有机会进TSE的PhD。而且我感觉法国最 ...

活不下来然后失学应该不在讨论范围内吧……你说跳我以为前提是能成tse phd candidate，欧陆硕士的优势不就在于可能直升吗

说真的如果活不下来应该好好考虑要不要继续phd了，这种情况很让人怀疑academic  potential的了，毕竟100+学生里都不能脱颖而出以后在数千博士里脱颖而出未免有点概率太小。参加工作应该安逸很多，这种时候也没必要讨论什么跳板了吧

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sleeps0ft 发表于 2015-3-25 22:40
活不下来然后失学应该不在讨论范围内吧……你说跳我以为前提是能成tse phd candidate，欧陆硕士的优势不 ...

恩恩，阁下在之前的讨论真是高看我啊 感动！

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sleeps0ft 发表于 2015-3-25 22:40
活不下来然后失学应该不在讨论范围内吧……你说跳我以为前提是能成tse phd candidate，欧陆硕士的优势不 ...

and this is exactly why some people are willing to go to Duke instead of TSE: paying the high tuition for the reputation, which is useful for job searching in case they don't win the fight.

I guess standing out in Duke is nothing easier than TSE?

P.S. given the reputation of TSE, if one did not get the M2 ETE (doctoral track), but is still decent (e.g. rank 20 in the class, and thus not the top 15), the degree should be still very useful in applying to some other non-that-top econ school in Europe?
at this level, one should no longer care about the difference between US and EU, as one cannot get into the toppest one anyway, and thus no difference........

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jianghaha 发表于 2015-3-25 08:27
绝对是duke吹

= =看我发帖历史全是关于duke的就知道我是duke吹了啊。。。

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-3-25 23:51
and this is exactly why some people are willing to go to Duke instead of TSE: paying the high tu ...

嗯惯性思维了……不能outstanding在日本应该没法申的了直接……

我是觉得指着phd去读ma然后再回头工作太亏了……直接工作or直接找工作导向的东西读不是更好（毕竟在工作上，你花时间上theory的课可能还不如找老外一起喝酒party练练口语/交际）

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sleeps0ft 发表于 2015-3-26 00:06
我是觉得指着phd去读ma然后再回头工作太亏了……直接工作or直接找工作导向的东西读不是更好（毕竟在工作上，你花时间上theory的课可能还不如找老外一起喝酒party练练口语/交际）

this is of course.......but god knows if one will success / fail for PhD before the master...........