打算在美国找工作，UWM or VANDY？

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winwin小狐狸 发表于 2015-4-10 13:31
大神你好
我就想知道 vandy的经济硕士在那边能搞个金融双学位吗？
这个问题好像应该问学校小秘，不过如 ...

不是大神。。vandy金融超级好啊，录取真的highly selective

我知道的消息是不能的，还是和学校check一下~

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mincyZ 发表于 2015-04-11 21:22


不是大神。。vandy金融超级好啊，录取真的highly selective

我知道的消息是不能的，还是和学校check一下~

大神你知道的好多。vandy喝duke比呢？！

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davidus 发表于 2015-4-11 23:16
大神你知道的好多。vandy喝duke比呢？！

挺挺不要黑我~vandy fin>duke econ，如果是找工作的话

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mincyZ 发表于 2015-4-11 21:22
不是大神。。vandy金融超级好啊，录取真的highly selective

我知道的消息是不能的，还是和学校check一 ...

嘿嘿我也觉得～谢啦
另外 皮克大法好

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winwin小狐狸 发表于 2015-4-10 13:31
大神你好
我就想知道 vandy的经济硕士在那边能搞个金融双学位吗？
这个问题好像应该问学校小秘，不过如 ...

不認為外加一個finance master有太大的加分.

直接搞個MFE爽快點.
要double major / master也該弄個STEM的(CS/Stat/Maths/...)

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同样觉得可以找小蜜问下工作方面的placement，看看去向，再做定夺~

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-12 23:12
不認為外加一個finance master有太大的加分.

直接搞個MFE爽快點.

就是说 mfe 比 finance master找工作有用呀？mfe具体是学统计软件之类的嘛？
另外再问个～我以后还是想进投行，请问除了考cfa，还有什么要准备的呢？

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zhizihuakai 发表于 2015-4-12 23:40
同样觉得可以找小蜜问下工作方面的placement，看看去向，再做定夺~

谢谢～之前看到一份vandy的placement，当分析师的还蛮多的。还是得自己努力丫

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winwin小狐狸 发表于 2015-4-12 23:57
就是说 mfe 比 finance master找工作有用呀？mfe具体是学统计软件之类的嘛？
另外再问个～我以后还是想进 ...

1. go to a top (target) school. (check the list of school that BB will visit and recuirt for FO, a good proxy for this)
2. confirm a (or a few) division, and look at the skillset that are required.
3. the most important part is indeed something you cannot change: get yourself a green card.
4. English, soft skills are something so important such that no need to mention any more for sure.
5. location is important, very important, NY, then chicago, boston is fine. if one is targeting at some general finance (e.g. commerical bank stuffs), maybe some regional center will be good also. Location is especially important for non-target as very few firm will go to campus for recuirtment. In general east coast > west coast for obvious reason.

6. STEM have a much better chances to stay for a job as an international student, since there are not enough qualified STEM local student, especially CS......MFE is kind of mixure of quantitative skills and finance.
7. heard that Vandy MS Finance have a quite good decent placement, but I also heard that they have really small intake, and a very limited number of Chinese student......
8. make sure your list of placement (of Vandy) is a list of Chinese, or at least internatioanl student that don't have US passport / green card (indeed at least non-US/European country), else there are indeed nearly no value for reference.
9. analyst is a nature of job, but also a title of job level in ibank.

10. economics is not a good choice of major for targeting in ibank indeed.......things go too theoritcal in general, and the career enviornment in those program are general not good enough (classmate are not motivated enough for job searching)
11. finance sounds good but i will say it's even worst (in US), as most target school in US dont offer a MSF, and finance is kind of a soft discipline which have lots of local available.....(dont tell me those financial modeling (DCF / whatever) are technical stuffs, fina people tends to say so, but simply they never faced some really intellectual stuffs........experience are much more important for those........but what sponsor a visa for international student if I have lots of locals to choose from then?)

Conclusion: remember you are an international student, and thus faces much more difficulties on visa policy, and in general have much worse lanauage, culture difference, communication and etc, when compared with a US local student......either you are much better than them (but then you should be going to a better school than Vanderbilt), or you have some technical skills that they lack of (but then you should prefer some STEM stuffs instead of economics).

橫批: 有回國的心理準備吧.

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-13 00:25
1. go to a top (target) school. (check the list of school that BB will visit and recuirt for FO, ...

谢谢～太详细啦！！:handshake

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winwin小狐狸 发表于 2015-4-12 23:57
就是说 mfe 比 finance master找工作有用呀？mfe具体是学统计软件之类的嘛？
另外再问个～我以后还是想进 ...

进投行一靠Ivy头衔，二靠关系，学术排不上号的。你要想靠master进投行就得瞄准Ivy+MIT这个层次的学校才稳妥。Vandy都够呛

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winwin小狐狸   2015-4-13 23:34
谢谢～太详细啦！！

太過詳細了，等我弄個簡短易明版:
1. Vandy is not a target, 不要發夢去投行 (除非富二代)
2. Vandy的location不近financial center, 找finance(not only ibank but also other FI)工作連面試都是問題, 不要說networking了
3. Economics太theory，又不夠STEM，公司沒有動機花錢花時間花心機請國際生
4. Vandy is not a well named school in far east，回國準備被HR問哪是甚麼(if lucky enough that the CV is not screened away)

結論：不要浪費父母的血汗錢。same applied for OP.

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bsyben 发表于 2015-4-13 23:40
进投行一靠Ivy头衔，二靠关系，学术排不上号的。你要想靠master进投行就得瞄准Ivy+MIT这个层次的学校才稳 ...

弄個chicago, ross, princeton, ucb(?), nyu, duke的估計也夠用

for reference: http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/f ... t-of-target-schools

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-14 00:56
弄個chicago, ross, princeton, ucb(?), nyu, duke的估計也夠用

for reference: http://www.wallstr ...

个人感觉这些学校+3.8以上GPA+（extremely)rigorous networking + Location (Maybe + Female,亚裔女去投行比男的要容易，我本科一个当过投行partner的教授说是为了找一些漂亮女性给男员工打气得。。。男女搭配，干活不累。）

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bsyben 发表于 2015-4-14 04:29
个人感觉这些学校+3.8以上GPA+（extremely)rigorous networking + Location (Maybe + Female,亚裔女去投行 ...

我估計chicago有地利(chicago is the best within chicago region, 附近很少學校追得上)
本身夠實力的, 不一定是ibank (as more concerntrate in NY), 各類fund的機會也不俗.

Duke和Ross的位置的確夠受, not to mention UCB being a public school.....

NYU因為地理位置, 印象中還是OK的. of course not as much as Columbia.


and at graduate level (master), i guess the power of Ivy are not that as much as that in undergraduates.......
kind of within between MBA and bachelor......when in MBA, one can see that some of the lower Ivy are never mentioned, but Chicago, NYU, Duke instead.


P.S. when discussing them, we can talking about "how much is needed"........but not "is it really possible...?".........