纠结地选校中...求指点！

锦梓UID: 3527026

这不是一个定位贴，不过也保证不会删帖啦！

目前打算2016混申Master和PHD，然后根据结果再选择要去哪里。以下是一些初步的选校想法，还望前辈们多多指点~
Master项目选校基本已经完成，打算直接申PHD-oriented top program (Duke, LSE, Wisconsin-Madison, OX/Cambridge/UCL挑一个，Yale IDE试试看，UBC，HKUST保底）。好像PHD-oriented 的Master项目本来选择就不多，而且认为自己的proflie应该足够申请这些学校，所以应该算是比较comprehensive的一个申请策略吧。
本来是打算读完Master再申请top PHD program（还是最想去UCB），但基于financial constraint以及试探的想法，决定今年也试着申请一些PHD program来对自己的定位大概有个了解。将来的field还没有确定，但大方向应该是Macroeconomics （International economics、monetary economics），或者Behavioral economics、development economics一类的吧。
目前比较感兴趣的program有UCLA，UCD，UCSD，UCSB，UWisconsin-Madison，Duke，BU，UWashinton，想请问前辈们几个问题：
1. 同时申请master的情况下，PHD program申请策略怎样安排比较合适（考虑申请费以及推荐信数量的constraint）？
2. 能否请大家推荐一些在Macro或者behavioral或者development方向做得比较好的PHD program?（基于个人情况T最最top的那些应该就不考虑啦~)
3. 同时申请一个学校的master和PHD，是否需要提交两次申请？如果PHD被reject，是否会自动考虑master？（求问申请过Duke，UWM，LSE的前辈们，网站上找了一下实在没看到确定的说法TT。。。）

不好意思问题有点多~非常感谢大家帮忙！

bsybenUID: 2988063

UWM申请PhD的Form里面有一个选项，问你如果被PhD reject想不想被master录取，只要选择这个选项就可以了。也就是说UWM你其实只要申请PhD就行，可以同时被master项目看到你的资料。
lz列举的PhD项目大部分都属于Top 30及以上的，如果是单独PhD申请的话最少要申请10所以上，一般都在15个左右。Top 30学校录取随机性非常大，不投一定数量的学校即使你的成绩和推荐信够了这个水平的学校也未必能申请上。如果你是想混申的话我觉得起码你自己列出来这几所PhD学校都要申请。当然，这种录取概率完全是基于你的背景已经够了Top 30申请者的标准，否则即使投再多也中不了。

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bsyben 发表于 2015-9-16 03:21
UWM申请PhD的Form里面有一个选项，问你如果被PhD reject想不想被master录取，只要选择这个选项就可以了。也 ...

Top30的申请标准也包括推荐信吗？

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bsyben 发表于 2015-9-16 03:21
UWM申请PhD的Form里面有一个选项，问你如果被PhD reject想不想被master录取，只要选择这个选项就可以了。也 ...

谢谢您提供的信息！

不知道前辈是否有一些Rank 30-50的项目推荐？以及前辈认为PHD择校时最需要关注的是哪方面的信息啊 （比如，placement，Faculty的科研程度，connection等等）？我选校的时候主要就是关注了一下排名以及地理位置。。。感觉好像随意了些

bsybenUID: 2988063

toalwhen 发表于 2015-9-16 12:31
Top30的申请标准也包括推荐信吗？

Top 30的申请绝对是与推荐信有关系的，这也是为什么国内即使是清北的学生很多也都是在国外读完master之后才顺利进入Top 30的学校的根本原因。他们其实早就学过相关内容，缺的就是几个有力的推荐人。

bsybenUID: 2988063

锦梓 发表于 2015-9-16 19:01
谢谢您提供的信息！

不知道前辈是否有一些Rank 30-50的项目推荐？以及前辈认为PHD择校时最需要关注的是 ...

PhD选校的原则其实很简单，如果你研究目标异常明确，比如说我就是做纯理论博弈论的，那你只要选这方面强的学校就好了，排名和位置都无所谓。但是如果你像大部分研究生一样，一开始很迷茫，那就争取去排名最高的学校。在这种学校里面各个方向都有比较好的研究团队，方便你随时转换你的研究方向。如果PhD不是以毕业去industry找工作的话，地理位置没那么重要，即使是去industry，对于PhD学生来说地理位置对他们的影响也要比对本科生和硕士生的影响小得多。

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bsyben 发表于 2015-9-16 20:40
PhD选校的原则其实很简单，如果你研究目标异常明确，比如说我就是做纯理论博弈论的，那你只要选这方面强的 ...

好的多谢啦！

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UC系列很穷，我们同学有第一年就开始做tutor的，很苦逼

cheesechanUID: 3505689

1. don't dream for scholarship for economics master in US or UK - their master is for profit earning.

2. you did not disclose any background so it is quite difficult to comment on 选校.

P.S. given your filed of interest, for master:
not quite clear for US, but for UK, if I were you, I will put Oxford MPhil as the first choice, maybe also LSE EME, while the Oxford MSc Development econ and LSE Econ sounds come afterwards. I am not sure if Cambridge MPhil Economics and UCL MS Econ are way more easier to be admitted (I guess not), I will choose the easier one as a safety, maybe with Warwick if you are willing.
I am not quite sure about your background, but with budget constraint, I will also put UZH MA Econ, and Goethe U MSQE into consideration too; maybe also SU/SSE; of course also CEMFI, and maybe also BSGE.

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-11-6 00:57
1. don't dream for scholarship for economics master in US or UK - their master is for profit earning ...

Thank you very much for the suggestions! The ranking about UK schools is super helpful~

I'm not considering Europe programs because I don't really want to go there...but you are right, for safety and financial reasons, maybe i should include some of them.

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锦梓 发表于 2015-11-6 20:48
Thank you very much for the suggestions! The ranking about UK schools is super helpful~

I'm not ...

I do understand that some people have some location preference, but I guess financial consideration, and placement record should be dominating factors for rational decision.

[what is the relevant placement record really depends. for someone planning to work afterward, it is the company and the job they get. for academics, it is the school they get the PhD offer.
and indeed placement record analysis is quite an empirical one, which is quite hard to factor in the effect of the initial quality. a more solid approach is to look into things like the reputation in the industry that you are interested (e.g. financial like bank, IO like various, university for academics, and etc...)]

for example, if you are interested in doing a PhD in US, a master in US may be preferred not simply because it is in US, but because a school in US are far more likely to professor that have closer connection with top researcher in US, i.e. better reference letter. but in case that some school elsewhere also have such good network, why care if it is in US or not?