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qwhrp94 发表于 2016-4-30 00:48
因为这些专业更能够体现出有量化分析的基础能力？
一般Econ的标配就是高数+概统+线代，如果没有量化方 ...

the problem of economics major only is...........they may have good intuition of the field, but they don't speak the language of graduate school good enough.

and it is easier to train up economics for someone speak maths only, than train up mathematics for those who know economics only.......

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-4-30 01:08
the problem of economics major only is...........they may have good intuition of the field, but th ...

这个...确实是个问题。
这学期上game theory的时候能够明显感觉到econ & math double major和纯econ major的区别，最明显的就是符号语言和叙述性语言之间的transform上面，其次是对question 的拆分上面。分析类课程的训练确实让人受益匪浅。然而这种差别也是积累了三个学期以上才出现。
Anyway, 个人觉得本科阶段尽量多接受一些数学训练是非常必要的。

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-4-30 00:24
it is something assumed in the list already, which is next to be compulsory requirement........
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intermediate micro 80+，没修intermediate macro:L

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chasell 发表于 2016-4-30 11:17
intermediate micro 80+，没修intermediate macro

MUST: Calculus based probability, proof based statistics, multivariate calculus, Linear Algebra

Next to Must: Intermediate Micro, Intermediate Macro, Econometrics

Very Useful: advanced course in math/stat

Useful: topic course in economics

Better than none: course in finance

Next to useless: business course like marketing and management

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-5-2 17:53
MUST: Calculus based probability, proof based statistics, multivariate calculus, Linear Algebra
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想问下advanced course in math/stat 一般包括哪些？
我理解的是数分、实复变、高代、测度概率论、数理统计、随机过程、常微. are there any other courses ?

And I wonder why topic courses are useful? 因为看起来挺水的...

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qwhrp94 发表于 2016-5-2 17:58
想问下advanced course in math/stat 一般包括哪些？
我理解的是数分、实复变、高代、测度概率论、数理统 ...

1. yes, 数分、实复变、高代、测度概率论、数理统计、随机过程、常微
maybe also panel data econometrics, time series, PDE, numerical analysis, numerical method for diff eqn, optimization, topology.......

when it is not really possible to take all (it is normal for non-math major), taking part of them will be enough. The selection of them sometimes depends on the academic interest too, since different subfield use different tools.

2. agree somehow, and the reason you mention is exactly why I put it after adv. math/stat course

topic course is also useful, but not that much as maths.......at least one will have some idea what subfield are there, and sometime what kind of research is behind.

indeed, everything is useful. Political science, psychology, or some other social science, or history and philosophy is also useful for economics, because economics is a social science at the end.
but the key problem is........it is quite difficult, if not impossible, for students in university in China (PRC) to have truly social science, especially politics, history and philosophy for obvious political reason.

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-5-2 18:07
1. yes, 数分、实复变、高代、测度概率论、数理统计、随机过程、常微
maybe also panel data economet ...

Thanks a lot! I totally agree with you in the last part.
目前我已经修完了大部分经济学分支的intro课，大概意识到自己兴趣在 development/political 方向以后又选修了社会网络分析、社会性别与女性发展之类的课，外加一些讨论公平与正义的西哲课，觉得受益匪浅。相反，本专业的一些历史类课程（中国经济史、经济思想史），以及topic 课时常让我觉得很鸡肋，甚至想全部翘掉...

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qwhrp94 发表于 2016-5-2 18:27
Thanks a lot! I totally agree with you in the last part.
目前我已经修完了大部分经济学分支的intro课 ...

well........something you don't like =/= something that is not useful..........

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-5-2 18:35
well........something you don't like =/= something that is not useful..........

嗯，您说的非常对。不过，我的意思是，这类课原本是非常必要的，但是在教材选择、授课等方面存在一些问题。eg. 经济思想史我认为很重要，自己也找了两三本经典的教材看，但是并不想听一个甚至没学过思想史的博士生讲思想史的课。
当然，我承认作为本科生还没有可以判断课程价值的判断力，学校设置这些课也有学校的理由，所以还是应该尽量谦虚地认真地上课。

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qwhrp94 发表于 2016-5-2 18:44
嗯，您说的非常对。不过，我的意思是，这类课原本是非常必要的，但是在教材选择、授课等方面存在一些问题 ...

it is always a pain to find a PhD student to work as a teaching assistant to course like this........

I once saw in a department website saying explicitly that if one has background in history of economic though, it will be easier to get a TA position (I guess it is quite common......just saying this out is rare)...........and that is a quite famous traditional university with a quite good economics department in the Western world.........you can imagine the case in China then......

P.S. 教topic course, 找是做該個topic research / study的profeesor應該是常識吧, especially master / PhD course......
of course there are some school not doing so, and this shows how the quality of a program is.....

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首先我觉得...均分88然后标题来个渣背景求定位 我瞬间就觉得不太想看下去了...

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-5-2 17:53
MUST: Calculus based probability, proof based statistics, multivariate calculus, Linear Algebra
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想请教一个选课问题。。
如果已经修过一门intro level的计量（覆盖了大部分概率论与数理统计内容，但是概率论学的很简略）的情况下，该选ODE还是intro level的Calculus based probability？

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dtu1 发表于 2016-6-5 14:37
想请教一个选课问题。。
如果已经修过一门intro level的计量（覆盖了大部分概率论与数理统计内容，但是 ...

Both.

硬要揀一個我會揀calculus based probability

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dtu1 发表于 2016-6-5 14:37
想请教一个选课问题。。
如果已经修过一门intro level的计量（覆盖了大部分概率论与数理统计内容，但是 ...

Both.

硬要揀一個我會揀calculus based probability