Issue165 [color=#FF0000]都来讨论一下题目和文章

song123456UID: 133578

Issue165 In any given field, the leading voices come from people who are motivated not by conviction but by the desire to present opinions and ideas that differ from those held by majority.

It is so often that some great new ideas appear to contradict the old opinions. For example, modern physics has put the deep held Newton theories into question in many areas. So many people point out that leading voices always come from the desire to challenge the opinions and ideas held by majority. In my point of view, both the innovative ideas and old ideas are important source of creativity and leading voices.

Admittedly, many great discoveries and innovation come out into existence by denying or challenging the long held beliefs. For instance, when Roentgen accidentally found some bright spots on a screen one meter away, he did not stick to the belief of that time that cathode radial cannot penetrate the black paper that he used in the experiment and the air but brought out a new idea that some kind of unknown radial must exist in the cathode radial. Eventually, he discovered the strong radiation-X-ray. It is clear that if he had insisted on the old conviction, he would have give that phenomenon away as a mistake. In nature, any new theory always differs from the those held by majority for at least this new one can explain some facts that those old ones cannot. Hence anyone who want bring out new leading voices have to present different opinions and ideas.

However, I have no mean to belittle the value of old faiths. Knowledge develops forward in the way of accumulation, in which the past knowledge is the basis of new discovery. Although Einstein's relative theory has made the classical physical theory flow through our fingers, but it still has it basement on the old theories. For example, in its equation, it still borrows the formula used to express kinetic energy from classical physics to express energy. Also it builds its foundation on Planck's quantum theory. However innovative a discovery may be, it develops on the foundation of the existed knowledge system.

Moreover, experience tells us that many great innovations and discoveries are not out of pure novel thought and starlight but just systematized experience of old beliefs. Electroplating was practiced in Babylon; the magnetic needle of Gilbert's experiments was used by Muslim sailors several hundred years before him; inoculation against small-pox practiced in Constantinople more than a century before Jenner's vaccination; wise old man and old woman used fungi to cure wounds many centuries before penicillin. Undoubtedly, old ideas can some times give us creative discovery if we take use of them properly.

In sum, although the desire to put out new ideas is essential for new discovery, the favored old beliefs are also valuable for it is the resource and basement of new opinions and ideas. So we should have a proper attitude to those held ideas: respect but not infatuate them.

PracticeUID: 164865

占座，考完试在来改 -___-b  :p

poohUID: 146994

这个题目的一个关键词leading voice， 你似乎给疏忽掉了，几乎不涉及到这个词，建议把行文朝这个词拉一拉，至少要在文中谈到吧。题目比较难！btw, 评了个精，大家都来讨论一下，还有他这样写算不算是扣题？


Issue165 In any given field, the leading voices come from people who are motivated not by conviction but by the desire to present opinions and ideas that differ from those held by majority.

It is so often that some great new ideas appear to contradict the old opinions. For example, modern physics has put the deep held Newton theories into question in many areas. So many people point out that leading voices always come from the desire to challenge the opinions and ideas held by majority. In my point of view, both the innovative ideas and old ideas are important source of creativity and leading voices.开头不错,就是不太明白为什么最后一句要加上creativity

Admittedly, many great discoveries and innovation come out into existence by denying or challenging the long held beliefs. For instance, when Roentgen accidentally found some bright spots on a screen one meter away, he did not stick to the belief of that time that cathode radial cannot penetrate the black paper that he used in the experiment and the air but brought out a new idea that some kind of unknown radial must exist in the cathode radial. Eventually, he discovered the strong radiation-X-ray. It is clear that if he had insisted on the old conviction, he would have give that phenomenon away as a mistake. In nature, any new theory always differs from the those held by majority for at least this new one can explain some facts that those old ones cannot. Hence anyone who want bring out new leading voices have to present different opinions and ideas. Nearly Perfect! Good Job!

However, I have no mean to belittle the value of old faiths. Knowledge develops forward in the way of accumulation, in which the past knowledge is the basis of new discovery. Although Einstein's relative theory has made the classical physical theory flow through our fingers, but it still has it basement on the old theories. For example, in its equation, it still borrows the formula used to express kinetic energy from classical physics to express energy. Also it builds its foundation on Planck's quantum theory. However innovative a discovery may be, it develops on the foundation of the existed knowledge system.

Moreover, experience tells us that many great innovations and discoveries are not out of pure novel thought and starlight but just systematized experience of old beliefs. Electroplating was practiced in Babylon; the magnetic needle of Gilbert's experiments was used by Muslim sailors several hundred years before him; inoculation against small-pox practiced in Constantinople more than a century before Jenner's vaccination; wise old man and old woman used fungi to cure wounds many centuries before penicillin. Undoubtedly, old ideas can some times give us creative discovery if we take use of them properly.例子很充实.但是总觉得body 2 和body3 说的大体是一个事，界限不清晰。

In sum, although the desire to put out new ideas is essential for new discovery, the favored old beliefs are also valuable for it is the resource and basement of new opinions and ideas. So we should have a proper attitude to those held ideas: respect but not infatuate them.

song123456UID: 133578

谢谢pooh, 其实我对leading voice 也不怎么清楚，写之前想了好久， 也不得其意， 就把他当做great discovery来理解。 实在是没办法

apolloxpUID: 156355

我觉得leading voice 是一种opinion，不能理解为great discovery。

PracticeUID: 164865

//In any given field//, //the leading voices//  //come from// [people] (who are motivated not by conviction but by the desire to present opinions and ideas that differ from those held by majority.)

我怎么觉得定义people的那个定语从句是关键呢？

song123456UID: 133578

不如加上一段，专门把leading voice 和 great discovery 联系起来，怎么样，就说leading voice 总是来自于伟大的发现和发明。

PracticeUID: 164865

个人认为 这个题目主要是讨论leading voice是怎么来的，是反对前人（or 大众）得出，还是同意前人得出。

leading voice可以解释为discovery/breakthrough/（当时）学术上的主流思想

song123456UID: 133578

最初由 Practice 发布
[B]个人认为 这个题目主要是讨论leading voice是怎么来的，是反对前人（or 大众）得出，还是同意前人得出。

leading voice可以解释为discovery/breakthrough/（当时）学术?.

以下省略...... [/B]

同意你的这个观点，不在于people,而在于方法

poohUID: 146994

同意8楼，这里不需要再画蛇添足的增加discovery的定义了。可以对leading voice进行简要地说明， 明确其内涵就是最前沿最先进的理论、成果等。我之所以一开始说要你向leading voice靠拢一下就是这个意思。

真生UID: 161074

leading voice= pioneer

zhangbaokeUID: 158124

我马上贴一篇issue165
太巧，我前几天也写了一篇，说实话，leading voice要看怎么定义
，如果只定义为说的话的话，我觉的写的内容就很有限，我认为要把leading voice可理解成
有成就的人发表的一种为别人所认同的意见或行动
conviction，应该就是自我对这个意见的肯定和执着

vagrant01UID: 139185

leading voice 可能是领导潮流，成为领导者的意思，譬如那个时代哥白尼的发现引导着天文学的发展

我觉得可就“In any field”作些分析，各个领域的情况不一，有的是象自然科学领域与主流不同的声音可能引发新的发展，有的则如社会、政治领域需要认同主流大多数人的观点。

zhangbaokeUID: 158124

我造的另一篇issue165，欢迎指正批评https://bbs.gter.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=203223