（8.17更新）新上任，开一个问答帖，有什么商科问题过来问，我有空尽量回答

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-8-17 20:28
for curiosity, which US Top HRM项目 is not a MBA?

即使学校一样，专业和侧重还是有所不同的呀

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lucky010 发表于 2016-8-17 21:07
即使学校一样，专业和侧重还是有所不同的呀

maybe I make it more clear:
美國哪家學校有不是MBA的top HRM碩士??

根本沒有的話, 就沒有選擇的問題了.

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-8-17 21:15
maybe I make it more clear:
美國哪家學校有不是MBA的top HRM碩士??

先谢谢回答。首先本人还没太研究，如有错误请指正。据我初步了解，HR Master TOP 5 should be Cornell, MSU, UMN, UIUC and Rutgers, which is totally different with MBA rank.

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lucky010 发表于 2016-8-17 21:27
先谢谢回答。首先本人还没太研究，如有错误请指正。据我初步了解，HR Master TOP 5 should be Cornell, M ...

MBA for sure.

Who cares about a specialized master's degree from a business school? The focus of a b-school is definitely its MBA program. Most top business schools (HBS, Wharton, Booth, etc.) do not offer specialized master programs. (Even Cornell Johnson only offers MBA and PhD.)

Do you think the b-schools in Cornell, MSU, UMN, UIUC are prestigious? I can't even remember their names. Do you think recruiters in China know them?

If you go for the HRM program, you will lose (1) the opportunity to get a more valuable degree (MBA) (2) a good brand name.

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truth_m 发表于 2016-8-17 22:34
MBA for sure.

Who cares about a specialized master's degree from a business school? The focus o ...

thanks for ur kind reply！

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lucky010 发表于 2016-8-17 17:55
恭喜版主，顺便捧场，求建议！
先介绍下本人背景：

1.你的情况适合MBA更好，工作经验很长了，没必要刷硕士学位，不过你最好留个不错的master保底，MBA还是要去好学校的才能最大化利益，要不学费那么多，你投资回报率要有保障嘛

2. G:700以上至少，T:100以上

3. 面试精心准备，商院录取中的面试环节很重要，有清晰的career plan(一定要合理而且表现出你的野心)不能模棱两可说不确定未来的选择这类的， 外企工作过那最好弄到他们的推荐信

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kuyigougou 发表于 2016-8-17 23:11
1.你的情况适合MBA更好，工作经验很长了，没必要刷硕士学位，不过你最好留个不错的master保底，MBA还是 ...

谢谢版主，看来我要好好考虑一下！

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4plus1 发表于 2016-8-13 01:39
捧场捧场！
我来问几个和自身相关的问题吧。
交代一些些背景：

其实别人已经给你回答的很好了，我补充一下
1. 数理背景从来不是必需在绝大多数金融领域，但是多多益善，但是行业分析这个领域更重要的是相关领域的知识背景和经验

2. 主要问题是你背景没有说服力，你要能说服HR你为什么要转金融，为什么你觉得你可以干好金融，你的清晰的career plan是什么， 然后次要问题就是你的分析思维需要培养，特别是business acumen，还有个在金融领域可能是最关键的问题你没有networking的积累，如果必要劝你还是要去读个商学院的学位积累一下network 这点真的很重要

3. 如果你是美国，读书期间summer实习是可以的，没什么障碍，毕业以后你读商科的话不属于STEM，opt时间有限，很多企业不愿意要，因为太短时间而且你拿H1B的希望不大，如果想留在美国较长时间工作的话，那估计只有投行这种级别的大企业可以忽略你是国际生的身份，还有就是回学校留籍这个是要交学费的

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kuyigougou 发表于 2016-8-17 23:22
其实别人已经给你回答的很好了，我补充一下
1. 数理背景从来不是必需在绝大多数金融领域，但是多多益善， ...

wow！多谢版主！
讲的非常细致！了解了！
看样子困难还不少纳！
版主指的商学院的学位，是MBA？我自己打算是读研……读商科是肯定的。

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4plus1 发表于 2016-8-18 01:16
wow！多谢版主！
讲的非常细致！了解了！
看样子困难还不少纳！

MBA当然是最好的，提供的network无论是质量还是数量都是其他商科学位不能比的，但你目前工作经验好像还不足够，而且只有顶级的MBA才有意义，要不花费那么多提升不大就没意思了，我的意思是你现阶段申请个商院的Master项目

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kuyigougou 发表于 2016-8-18 04:08
MBA当然是最好的，提供的network无论是质量还是数量都是其他商科学位不能比的，但你目前工作经验好像还不 ...

enen!
正有此意！
MBA嘛，再说啦。现在准备申请mkt or msf。更偏向学校排名一点。
但是我看到比如地理位置在纽约的 Baruch College, CUNY。商科方面好像也很不错。但是这个学校在综合排名上几乎找不到。在不了解那种专业上很经典的项目时，只能看各种上排名的学校。。选校好困难……

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cheesechan 发表于 2016-8-15 23:03
who fuxking about a general ranking for a specialized master?
(don't stick 100% to the quantnet ...

Thanks for your advice. I haven't noticed UK programs before. Surely IC and UCL are quite big names, and their curriculums are really useful. However, I still have some questions.
1) I find the program has a huge class size (up to 200), and I'm not sure if I have the chance to impress the professors in such a one-year large class and to get their support in further application?
2) Given the class size and the visa policy in UK, I wonder if I can find a job after graduation. I find the placement in IC RMFE filled with big names, however, I also find 35% of the placement is in Asia. So, what is the real situation for an international student to find a job in this program?
3) I learnt from the forum that UK's student visa policy is really tough for those who already have a master's degree. As I've already have a master of finance degree in a domestic university, will it hard for me to apply for a student visa to study MFE in UK?

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4plus1 发表于 2016-8-18 04:12
但是我看到比如地理位置在纽约的 Baruch College, CUNY。商科方面好像也很不错。但是这个学校在综合排名上几乎找不到。在不了解那种专业上很经典的项目时，只能看各种上排名的学校。。选校好困难……

1. If I am the recruiter for a role in equity research, I am likely to throw the CV of those reading a marketing master; unless I have lots of time to interview tons of candidate.

Maybe a sales / private bank ppl will (more client communication instead of analysis), but.....I don't think they will hire a non-US people for that then (language + culture)

2. it really depends on how you define 很不错. In finance, quite-not-bad is not enough; you need to be excellent.
given the location of these school (and tier), the most reasonable best expectation is:
graduate there, find an 6-12 month unpaid / low paid internship in New York after tons of sleepless night (since coursework + tons of networking + interview preparation) using up your OPT and leveraging the location.
didn't get a H1B and thus forced to go back home, and then being asked how much you spent to buy your US master certificate during interview (unless you get an internship in some really big names, i.e. doing things like ops.....)

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kuyigougou 发表于 2016-8-17 23:22
3. 如果你是美国，读书期间summer实习是可以的，没什么障碍，毕业以后你读商科的话不属于STEM，opt时间有限，很多企业不愿意要，因为太短时间而且你拿H1B的希望不大，如果想留在美国较长时间工作的话，那估计只有投行这种级别的大企业可以忽略你是国际生的身份，还有就是回学校留籍这个是要交学费的.

but then the concern is then: 美國投行級別的target school就是那十幾家, 而當中開有樓主想申的MSF的就是一指可數. (MIT, and only MIT)

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Iann 发表于 2016-8-18 10:06
Thanks for your advice. I haven't noticed UK programs before. Surely IC and UCL are quite big name ...

1. smaller cohort size is always better, and thus it is also always much more difficult to get into it. Trade-off between university reputation and it anyway.

2. well, we all know the story. only the best, and very limited can stay, especially
but you didn't mention that you wanna stay US / overseas for a job, but just said want a role in financial industry, isn't it?

3. you are the client, student visa is not a big concern.

P.S. seriously, I don't think you are / will be interested in doing research in these quantitative area. If you had read a couple of papers, and had been planning this for some years, you should have realized the maths/stat/computer requirement and made them up long time ago (even after graduation).
I guess you know that, a master cost you 1 or 2 year, and then a PhD can cost you 4 or 5 year. Given that you had worked for 4 years.......are you sure you don't have the pressure on the family side and have the time to do this till your early/mid-30s?