issue第6类同主题写作 8月22-23日

SylviaMengyayaUID: 3693199

No.60 Politicians should pursue common ground and reasonable consensus rather than elusive ideals.
Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position.

不完全同意，分三种情况讨论何时寻求共识，何时追求理想。

Intro: I agree that when it comes to issues concerning the state operation and international co-operation, politicians should engage in common ground and reasonable consensus. However, when racing for president, politicians should rely on elusive ideals, rather than consensus, to differentiate themselves against their rivals and therefore make themselves prominent.

Ts1: As a qualified politician, one should not only figures out the common views among different fellowships, but also finds a balance between different views to make the state work well.
Example: policy making, only a policy is accepted by majority can it been put into fact.

Ts2:  When facing issues concerning international co-operation, consensus will promote the co-operation between two countries while elusive ideals will confuse other countries and further impede the co-operation.
Example: On the issue of Japanese aggression,  China and Japan failed to achieve an agreement.

Ts3: However, when it comes to occasions of presidential race, it is elusive ideals that distinguish a politician from the others.
Example: different slogans of different American presidents.

中间段：
As a qualified politician, one should not only figures out the common views among different fellowships, but also finds a balance between different views to make the state work well. When making a policy, delegates from various groups have different even contradict views. Politicians may find it easy to figure out the common views among different groups. However it is hard to balance their differences, which attaches great significance to the final implementation of a policy. And those elusive ideals seem too remote for the delegates to settle the problem at the moment.

点评楼层：39
1）提纲的框架是否合理？
比较合理，从三个比较具体的角度出发，political debate,company plans,some criminal cases. 不过我觉得这样没法证实any situation下这个statement都是正确的, 是不是从更不那么具体的角度出发好一些呢
2）提纲所用的例子是否合适？
嗯，合理，不过第二个没有给出具体例子。
3）开头段语言方面有哪些问题？  
There is one saying in China, when you debate more, the truth is much clearer. So I am totally agree with （应该没有am）this statement that, in any situation, progress requires discussion among people who have contrasting points of view. It can be proved in many contexts. When it comes to issues in （of）political debate, discussion among parties which have contrasting points of view is very important. As it’s helpful for the progress of the country. It’s also important to discuss different plans in a company before implementing a program. Moreover, when it comes to some criminal case(s) in which the suspect doesn’t have the intention to hurt others first, discussion among people who have contrasting points of view might change the final decision of the case.

遠子wUID: 3788646

Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

Agree with reason but disagree with claim

Different reasons

In reality, we often encounter collaborated projects or collective work that require us to select our partners and form a group to achieve a favorable learning outcome. Whether choosing teammates with different opinions from us is always debatable since disagreement may induce stress within the group and affect the learning efficiency. From my perspective, even though severe disagreement among group memebers with different views may influence the atmosphere and learning efficiency within the group,  controllable difference among members is more beneficial to our learning compared to group uniformity. And I will illustrate my reasoning in this article.

Firstly, I admit that severe divergences are likely to induce stress and to unnerve group members, affecting the learning efficiency within the group. Usually, severe divergences such as holding different assumptions toward an issue are hard to resolved. It is of difficulty for a Christian and Muslim to converge toward a religious topic such as the identity and characteristics of the god since they hold totally different assumptions. Therefore, when severe divergences occur, it is almost impossible for a group to reach consensus toward an issue. Meaningless and provocative disputes happen repeatedly, and no one can gain any knowledge and insights efficiently from the group discussion.

However, controllable divergences within the group members can contribute to the group with more distinctive insights than group accordance. Group members with the similar background but different experiences are able to reasonably exchange their opinions and communicate with each other. If different views occur, they are more willing to contemplate about the reasoning behind others’ opinions and to accept others’ opinions. As a result, they are more likely to absorb different perspectives and develop a comprehensive idea at the end of collective work, which is beneficial to their learning. In contrast, group accordance with everyone unanimously agree on a single issue may lead to in-group thinking. Their purview may become narrow and restricted since they only concentrate on their shared knowledge and reject views that are in contrast with theirs. Consequently, it is difficult for them to learn more beyond their current knowledge and insights.

Likewise, compared to group accordance controllable differences within group members can lead to a more favorable division of labors and coordination, thus enhancing their learning efficiency.
-Different views<- different systems of knowledge and from different academic fields
-Contribute distinctive skills and knowledge within the group
-Divide their tasks and better achieve the learning outcome
e.g business competition
maths- quantitative skills, finance- financial knowledge, sociology-analyzing social impact….
-learn from each other and achieve the learning outcome efficiently
-in contrast, group accordance-> unable to divide labors-> cannot achieve learning target- fall apart

flhopeUID: 3823681

49) Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

开头段：
Whether we can learn much more from people whose views we share or not depends on the motivation of people agree with us. Only base on the premises that all the views of our assenters are authentic and sincere, could we learn useful knowledge from them. Yet on condition that people consent and even flatter us for certain purposes which have nothing to do with learning, our learning would be hindered instead of motivated. Similarly, contradicting views and ideas could aware us of the mistakes and flaws in our work which we can’t discover by ourselves, bring us fresh angles and perspectives, and then make our work mature and complete. But if the debate becomes irrational denouncement or personal attack, contradiction may cause negative effects under certain conditions.

TS1
On condition that our assenters are authentic and sincere, views and ideas from them may raise our confidence, strengthen our courage, and enhance our psychological satisfaction.

TS2
While consider that people consent and even flatter us for certain purposes such as promotion opportunity, our learning would be hindered.

TS3
In addition, on condition that people disagree with us are authentic to exchange different ideas for deep understanding, views and ideas from them could aware us of the mistakes and flaws in our work which we can’t discover by ourselves, bring us fresh angles and perspectives, and then make our work mature and complete.

TS4
Also, consider that the debate becomes irrational denouncement or personal attack, contradiction may cause negative effects.

AngelyyyUID: 3625119

xiulin2015 发表于 2017-8-23 22:38
Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views c ...

点评：
我觉得主题句再明确一点就好啦

AngelyyyUID: 3625119

战G进行时 发表于 2017-8-22 22:14
Disagreement and argument
No. 34 In any situation, progress requires discussion among people who ha ...

这篇文章写的仓促，开头有些细节和主题段矛盾了，自我检讨

liwenhao19UID: 3472930

issue 60/151
Politicians should pursue common ground and reasonable consensus rather than elusive ideals.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position.
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Which one should politicians choose to pursue, reasonable consensus or elusive ideals? In my opinion, reasonable consensus is definitely more desirable than elusive ideals, since elusive ideals may often have no practical grounds hence often fails and prove to be a big price for the country, while reasonable consensus instead has merits as likely to gain more support and achieve solid progress.

First off, elusive ideas often go against the reality of the country thus likely to fail and it often ends up as a disaster for the country. Take China under the Mao Zedong’s rule as an example. At that time, the Chinese people lived in desperate poverty, so what people really need is to develop the economy and improve the living conditions of people. However, Mao ignored their practical needs, and choose to pursue the elusive ideals as beating US and UK in quantity of steels produced per year. This target not only goes against people’s practical needs but is also inappropriate considering the technology level of the China at the time. As a result, Mao’s elusive ideals failed and China ended up in The Great Famine during 1959-1962.

In contrast, reasonable consensus is a more desirable goal for politician, since it has the merits as likely to gain more support, hence more likely to succeed. This means a lot especially for leaders that have less prestige. Take Deng Xiaoping as an example, after Mao’s death, Deng was chosen to assume the task of leadership in China. At the time, Deng enjoyed less prestige as Mao, while his job was in no way easier since China at the time was a mess after Mao’s bad policy known as Great Leap Forward and the Culture Revolution. So, Deng took different strategy than Mao, basically, he pursued consensus within the party and the country as a whole to shift the focus of policy to develop the economy and improve the living standards of people. Since his policy caters to people’s practical needs, people respond with high working enthusiasm, as a result, his policy is a great success.

Moreover, pursuing consensus is more likely to reach solid progress, this especially true when the goal we have in mind is controversial to other people. Take the Obama Care as an example, this policy initially targets on producing health care for everyone, while those Republicans find we should not provide health care for women that give abortions since this may encourage abortion. In such circumstance, if Obama’s team insists on their initial goal as including everyone in the policy, this policy is not likely to get passed, and the majority of people would suffer. So, instead, Obama’s team purse the common ground and agree that women who give abortion should not be included in the policy, as a result the policy got passed much earlier and other people which are the majority can enjoy better health cares.

In sum, since elusive ideals often have little practical grounds hence likely to fails and end up with disasters, politicians should instead pursue reasonable consensus which has merits as more likely to gain support and can lead to solid progress especially when our goals are controversial.
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LynnHanUID: 3788778

Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

1.同意reason的合理部分
  （1）agreement作为正向反馈，会鼓励人们的学习；反之，disagreement易导致不良情绪。
  
2.反对reason的不合理部分
  （1）在科学领域中，disagreement促进更辨证和完善的思考、研究
  （2）在文学领域，disagreement激发大众的关注和思考，体现了作品的价值
3.反对claim。
从reason推claim存在问题，不能因为disagreement带来的负面影响，而否定它的价值： （1）事物是复杂且辨证的，不能只接受与自己相同的观点；（2）个体有局限性，向观点不同的人学习能够更全面地学习

TS:  Due to the fact that disagreement may lead to embarrassment or even enimical mood in case of communication.One may claim that we should learn more from those who have identical recognition with us.From my perspective, however, things are always intricated, so it would be unwise to focus solely on one aspect.Whatsmore, we can not simply disregard the value of learning from contradictory views by figuring out its possible drawbacks,no matter in fields of cientific research or literature studying.

TS1:Generally, disagreement can be a trouble maker ,mainly because of its possible pessimistic effect on the process of learning.As people living as an entirely social group, gaining positive feedback form others contribute to self-esteem with respects to value identification and knowledge cognition.
Example-a journalist is criticized  for her comments on president selection not because of writing capacity but the preference of the public,so that her writing enthusiasm is inhibited

TS2:However, when it comes to specific context of communication such as scientific research or literature learning ,attaching more importance to contradictory views can be surely helpful. A scientist can learn more from scholars holding different views as discussing with them forces him to examine more critically our own methods and data in making assumption or doing experiments.Moreover,by considering a dichotomy interpretation of a natural phenomena, scientists can even reverse an old theory in order to make it more accurate.For instance,the most renowned scientist Albert Einstein, once suspected the theory concluding the rules of moving objects which was established by Issac Newton. He considered an unconventional interpretation of lights to be an moving practicle,and then put forward the conjecture and developed it into the theory of relativity.The same logic can be applied in fields of literature,disagreement exists constantly in the process of construing pieces of works. Just as there are thousands of Hamlet in Shakespeare’s masterpiece, because there are thousands of readers.Disparate tones intricate people’s enthusiasm in appreciating authors’ resolve and emotion,rather than causing jarring.And I believe this kind of  disagreement demonstrates the underlying value of literacy.

TS3:As is claimed above, contradictory views should be credit for helping people to acquire information and knowledge comprehensively, so I doubt the claim that persuade the public in learning more from those similar views.As individuals have checked boundary of recognition and knowledge.
An artist should have an open mind in developing their works of art.So it’s imperative to refering to different views,both positive and negative.

taylor1995UID: 3820421

49) Claim: We can usually learn much more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own.
Reason: Disagreement can cause stress and inhibit learning.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based.

Intro:
Whether some mutually shared ideas can make people learn more from each other is quite a personal thing. On the one hand, shared opinion encourages people learn from each other. People are easier to understand each other when they are sharing the same ground. On the other hand, disagreement help people improve their ways if they face the problem rightly.

It is obvious that disagreement could cause stress and sometimes inhibit our learning, and as a result we might learn more from people whose views we share than from those whose views contradict our own. Moreover, people are at least easier to understand each other when they find then sharing the same ground in most case.

On the contrary, disagreement could also benefit us greatly. Salient perspectives on a problem may turn out to sharpen our mind, broaden our ken and shed some new light on the issue in a question, and therefore enhance our learning. And obviously, it is always the different schools of thought rather than those who share that connect to boost scientific and technological progress.

Consequencely,  no matter agreement or disagreement will promote our learning skills which depends on how we face other people’s suggestions.

SylviaMengyayaUID: 3693199

keaixiaotang 发表于 2017-8-23 23:12
34. In any situation, progress requires discussion among people who have contrasting
points of view ...

抱歉，今天上午有事情耽搁了~现在才点评

ning97UID: 3781898

issue 60/151
Politicians should pursue common ground and reasonable consensus rather than elusive ideals.

Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position.

Intro: For politicians, there are both common ground and reasonable consensus understood by ordinary people, and elusive ideals to pursue. From my own point, the specifical predirection choice is determined by the circumtances. In the career begining stages of the politicians, and the war stage, the common ground and reasonable consensus come the first to raise belief from the people and rally national confidence. But in the peace stage, politicians should pursue ideals would have profound effects even though they are elusive.

TS1:
In the career begining stages, politicians need to get people's trust to continue their job, thus the common ground and reasonable consenus are readily to acchieve the agreement among the nation.
Example: the emperior give amnesty to the nation the first he came to the power;
              During the presidential election, the candidates would give promise to problems concerned by masses.

TS2:
During the special time such like World War I, the populace may need confidence to survive, which contribute more to common ground and reasonable consus.
Example: In 1938, Franklin urged the special session to increase the Navy's construction by 20%, in accordance to the people's anxious of war threat.

TS3:
Except that, the policians need foresight to pursue more profit for the nation even that many ordinary people may get confused.
Example: Copenhagen Climate Summit for global warming.  

In one word, policians should pursue common ground census when they need the support or stabilizing the public mood, and they should pursue more foresight profitable when the circumstances are stable.

评Taylor1995：
框架：1、我觉得框架可以再精细一些，读懂了分两层含义，不同意见能不能帮助我们成长取决于个人。然后两个角度在讲。不过觉得对于reason的态度只有第二段第一句提到了reason，感觉可以针对reason的适用情况讨论两次、对于claim的再讨论两次。

bigheiniuUID: 3814202

提纲
I fairly agree with this announcement, contentions often make people consider things from different perspective which will not only help them find their mistakes and learn from others. The development of science and the improvement of political right are based on the debate from people with different views. However in the primary school, different opinions among students and teachers have nothing to do with students' gaining on basic knowledge.

1. The disagreement among researchers boost the development of science.
e.g. The reason of why species evolve, some people prefer frequent usage that causes the evolution. However Darwin think the selection of the nature is the main factor.

2. To maintain efficiency and avoid corruption, the government should permit people with different views.
e.g. Former South Korea President
e.g. lesbian and gay marriage

3. However in primary school, inconsistent views among students and teachers can impede their learning scheme.
e.g. basic mathematical learning
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中间段:
The disagreement among researchers boost the development of science, because from different perspective they can easily find the mistakes and these debates give chance to further investigation. Take the example of the reason of why species evolve. Some people think that the frequent usage cause the species evolution. However, through the observation of birds on a islands, Darwin found that the ordinary explanation did not work, so he came out that the nature selection is the main factor of evolution. If Darwin just followed ordinary explanation, never could he find these important finding which play a significant role in raising high production cows and inventing medicine. And these Darwin's unfamiliar opinions make the other researcher realize that previous appearance factor cannot work in every situation and revise their experimentation at that time. In a nutshell, different views allow researcher know the problem in their research and buttress the future progress.