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发表于 2004-12-24 21:20:02 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
25"Anyone can make things bigger and more complex. What requires real effort and courage is to move in the opposite direction—in other words, to make things as simple as possible."

Position:事实上事情能被简化的情况少至又少
提纲:
1.把事情简化能让我们把握事物的本质
2.在我们获得知识的同时,我们把事情复杂化了
3.我们人类的本性也决定了事物必将被复杂化


The speaker contends that making things simple requires more effort and courage than making them bigger and more complex. I agree insofar as making things simple is the goal for people to solve the problems. Nevertheless, I tend to disagree with the speaker's assertion for the reason that in the face of the increasingly intricate characteristics of the world and the human natural impulse, it is no easy thing to simplify things we face with in most cases.

Admittedly, simplifying the cause and effect of the problems can help people better understand and solve them. Through grasping the essence of a matter, people can take a short cut in addressing the problems or fully take use of it to serve for human beings. A case in point is the discovery of the periodical rules of chemical elements. People can study the law and nature of all the chemical elements without knowing the trends, the ideas and the concepts based that help to explain the formation of the table. Students can catch the whole perspective of the facts in the process of studying chemistry. As Newton says "Truth is ever to be found in the simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things. In this sense, by making things simple people can discriminate the essence and peripherals of the things and study efficiently.

However, one reason for my fundamental disagreement with the speaker is that as we acquire more knowledge, things do not become more comprehensive, but more complex and more mysterious. Consider the process we learn the area of atomic physics. A long time ago, our ancestors learn the physical world by means of sight and touch, since their naked eyes perceived very little. With the development of the science, we learn that all matters are comprised of atoms, which are further comprised of protons, neutrons, and electron. Then we discover an even basic unit of matter called the quark. And now a new so-called “string” theory posits the existence of an even more fundamental, and universal, unit of matter. As we take the steps to probe the world more deeply, we make the thing more complex.

Another reason why I essentially disagree with the speaker is that our human’s ever-lasting impulse to make thing more intricate. Consider, for example, in the ever-growing and increasingly complex digital world, the high-tech firms seem compelled to boldly go to whatever effort to devise increasingly complex products, for the ostensible purpose of staying ahead of their competitors. While we want to get the truth of their inexhaustible innovation, we will find that it is the public’s pursuing the multi-function products that compels the entrepreneurs to do so. They will definitely never make the effort to create simpler products.

In sum, while we admit that great effort and courage should be put to make things simple or keep them in that way, we seldom do so. Moreover, it is the human’s inclination and the process we gain knowledge that make things bigger and more complex. In the final analysis, making things simpler is a tough task in the face of the fact that more things are becoming bigger and more complex.
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发表于 2004-12-25 19:58:32 |只看该作者

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issue25  修改,欢迎相互学习

"Anyone can make things bigger and more complex. What requires real effort and courage is to move in the opposite direction—in other words, to make things as simple as possible."
[关键词:real effort与things]

[解题: effort,暗示人为活动。
    complex与simple是相对概念,之间存在relativity,需加论述。
在不同的情况下,两者有各自的必要性和局限性,发挥不同的作用或引发不同的后果。
在很多情况下,两者间存在一种平衡,结合会发挥更大的作用。]


Position:事实上事情能被简化的情况少至又少
提纲:
1.把事情简化能让我们把握事物的本质
2.在我们获得知识的同时,我们把事情复杂化了
3.我们人类的本性也决定了事物必将被复杂化


The speaker contends that making things simple requires more effort and courage than making them bigger and more complex. I agree insofar as making things simple is the goal for people to solve the problems. Nevertheless, I tend to disagree with the speaker's assertion for the reason that in the face of the increasingly intricate characteristics of the world and the human natural impulse, it is no easy thing to simplify things we face with in most cases.[开头紧凑,Position明确,但说“it is no easy thing to simplify things we face with in most cases”好像没有必要,导致绝对化]

Admittedly, simplifying the cause and effect of the problems can help people better understand and solve them. Through grasping the essence of a matter, people can take a short cut in addressing the problems or fully take use of it to serve for human beings. A case in point is the discovery of the periodical rules of chemical elements. People can study the law and nature of all the chemical elements without knowing the trends, the ideas and the concepts based that help to explain the formation of the table. Students can catch the whole perspective of the facts in the process of studying chemistry. As Newton says "Truth is ever to be found in the simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things. In this sense, by making things simple people can discriminate the essence and peripherals of the things and study efficiently.[此段论述充分紧凑,例子也不错,Newton的saying用得很贴切,掌声J]

However, one reason for my fundamental disagreement with the speaker is that as we acquire more knowledge, things do not become more comprehensive, but more complex and more mysterious. Consider the process we learn the area of atomic physics. A long time ago, our ancestors learn the physical world by means of sight and touch, since their naked eyes perceived very little. With the development of the science, we learn that all matters are comprised of atoms, which are further comprised of protons, neutrons, and electron. Then we discover an even basic unit of matter called the quark. And now a new so-called “string” theory posits the existence of an even more fundamental, and universal, unit of matter. As we take the steps to probe the world more deeply, we make the thing more complex.[论述结构很规范,句式变化不错。但是,是否忽略了人类在不断发现自然的复杂性同时,主观性的复杂化对知识的形成和探索起到了关键性作用呢?]

Another reason why I essentially disagree with the speaker is that our human’s ever-lasting impulse to make thing more intricate. Consider, for example, in the ever-growing and increasingly complex digital world, the high-tech firms seem compelled to boldly go to whatever effort to devise increasingly complex products, for the ostensible purpose of staying ahead of their competitors. While we want to get the truth of their inexhaustible innovation, we will find that it is the public’s pursuing the multi-function products that compels the entrepreneurs to do so. They will definitely never make the effort to create simpler products.[1.个人认为此段缺乏力度,“make things as simple as possible.”不等于“simple product”也就是说,things是个广义概念,可以是“物”,也可以是“事”。2.Consider和for example取一即可]

In sum, while we admit that great effort and courage should be put to make things simple or keep them in that way, we seldom do so. Moreover, it is the human’s inclination and the process we gain knowledge that make things bigger and more complex. In the final analysis, making things simpler is a tough task in the face of the fact that more things are becoming bigger and more complex.[concede替换admit更好,“seldom”太绝对。强调句式用得好!“In the final analysis”有些生硬,最后一句没有很好呼应题目的关键词“effort”,论点有些含糊]
[总体评价:
1.结构清晰,论证规范。
2.例子典型,词汇句式多变。值得俺学习
3.缺少对简单化与复杂化之间的关系的论证,即:简单化与复杂化并非表面的对立关系,也许可以结合body3用一段让步论证,提出挖掘两者间内在联系。
4.非常感谢zjuyang提供习作,让本人受益匪浅。]
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发表于 2004-12-25 20:35:56 |只看该作者

补上俺的position,期待讨论

position:两者都有各自的必要性和局限性,根据不同的情况找出平衡,结合两者从而找出最佳解决方法
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发表于 2004-12-25 22:20:37 |只看该作者
谢谢你细致的修改!^_^

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客气了,这是俺第一次修改,功力不足就用时间补足,呵呵(花了3小时),不足之处,期待朋友讨论。
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发表于 2004-12-28 01:15:31 |只看该作者
希望大伙多发表一下意见啊 : )
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发表于 2005-1-3 01:16:41 |只看该作者

大伙来讨论一下复杂化与简单化

我觉得讨论一下复杂化与简单化各自的必要性是很必要的!
可以从多角度写,用conditioning的写法,欢迎大伙来讨论!
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发表于 2005-1-3 10:11:09 |只看该作者
整体看结构的确很不错
个人觉得body2和3的观点不是太明确,也不很好写
body2和3我觉得你的意思是随着人类掌握了更多的知识,技术,是出现的新问题必然比以前的更复杂了
但是我觉得这道题的意思是,是把问题简化容易还是把它复杂化容易,显然作者认为应该下大力气把问题复杂化
所以我以为body2和3段应该说在了解事物复杂性的基础上,尽量让其简化,比如把很晦涩的物理理论简单化,stephen hawking就是一个很好的例子

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;) 个人以为:
不能靠论述哪个更简单来立论,复杂性和简单性各自的必要性是解体的关键!
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发表于 2005-1-3 11:41:31 |只看该作者
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[B];) 个人以为:
不能靠论述哪个更简单来立论,复杂性和简单性各自的必要性是解体的关键! [/B]

我觉得事物本身而言没有简单性和复杂性,因为事物互相联系,有些人认为太复杂所以我们才有尽量把它简单化,是因为人的参与有了简单与复杂,所以这样看来人是一定要写的,我们因该怎么看待,以及我们应该采取什么措施
个人观点;p

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;) happymichelle说得好!!赞

俺会尽快写issue25,

先贴上我的提纲,大伙来讨论!

关键词:real effort与things

解题: effort,暗示人为活动。
    complex与simple是相对概念,之间存在relativity,需加论述。
在不同的情况下,两者有各自的必要性和局限性,发挥不同的作用或引发不同的后果。
在很多情况下,两者间存在一种平衡,结合会发挥更大的作用。

position:两者都有各自的必要性和局限性,根据不同的情况找出平衡,结合两者从而找出最佳解决方法
提纲:
1.背景描述:世界到底在变得越来越复杂还是越来越简单?世界似乎正在向两极发展-复杂化与简单化。不同的人总是对事物有着不同的看法:复杂或简单。如现象:一方面,城市越来越大,各种系统;另一方面,人们努力用最简单的方式消费和生活。透过表面现象,我们会这发现并不矛盾。
2.复杂化是对信息和知识收集与积累的必然过程,是对一切可能性的积极探索和必要研究。复杂化是一种创造性活动,意味着主动探寻事物间的关系,将简单孤立的事物联系起来编织成网。Single to multiply如:建筑师做城市规划,先要收集大量资料并寻找影响城市的因素以及各因素间复杂和微妙的关系,甚至用复杂的计算软件辅助设计。
3.让步论述,然而,一味的复杂化不利于操作和学习甚至会起反作用。据反例如:很多人抱怨Windows的复杂程序与并非简洁的界面,以至于很难掌握。
4.简单化是对信息和知识归纳和总结,在很多情况下,简洁的表达与操作往往能更直接有效的发挥作用,提高效率。如:internet explore ,google的成功是由针对大量错综复杂的信息利用简单的操作进行搜索。亦可用“the discovery of the periodical rules of chemical elements.”
5. 人们由于身份需求不同,存在对于复杂化和简单化的不同倾向。如:由于设计者和使用者的身份不同,汽车设计者总是希望能将更多更复杂的构思融入车体以创造更完善的功能;而客户则希望在开车时尽可能简单易行的操作。汽车工业的蓬勃发展为这个令人迷惑的问题提供了合理的解决办法。关键在于找到一种平衡既能保证产品的复杂功能又能满足客户对操作简单性的要求。
6.当然,世界永远存在复杂与简单,人们从中止过这两种过程。复杂与简单也许是永无止境的循环与转换,关键在于针对不同情况,寻求最恰切的平衡点,结合两者。

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