ISSUE13 机井限时，写过的近来讨论讨论！

ZHGsunnyUID: 185312

=========Issue 13，题目=========
Many of the world's lesser-known languages are being lost as fewer and fewer people speak them. The government of countries in which these languages are spoken should act to prevent such languages from becoming extinct.

===========正文=========
The speaker claims that many of the world's lesser-known languages are being lost as fewer and fewer people speak them, therefore the government of countries in which these languages are spoken should act to prevent such languages from becoming extinct. I disagree with the conclusion.

First of all, it is true that the different languages in different countries that compose the various culture of the world. The extinction of some languages will be inevitably a great loss for world culture and the history written in these languages. However, the languages are being lost as fewer and fewer people speak them is an unchanged, according to the evolution theory in nature, put forward by Darwin, which is equally suit for languages. If a country with lagging economy and less people, with the strength of other countries, sooner or later its languages will be replaced.  In many countries, in which English is their official languages, is an obvious example.

In addition, the conformity of languages is necessary for communication in the world. As it is known for all of us that with the contact among countries become more and more tight, the different languages in different countries is the mainly obstacle. In national conferences, for instance, it is difficult for people from various countries to deeply discuss some issues for they cannot understand each other. Now the generalization of English is the production to satisfy their national necessary. The important national conferences, the significant match, such as Olympics, the primary documents in each field, are most written in English. And thanks to conformity of languages, the national communication becomes easy, and this benefits for the development of any field. For example, in my major-architecture, most of the important national articles are written in English, by learning these materials we can understand the level in architecture in each countries and even we can discuss with famous professors in English, all of which will contribute our studying.

Finally, whether the government of the countries in which the being lost languages is spoken should act to prevent this tendency. In my view, the action for promoting the development of a country is more effective than action for prevent the languages for becoming extinct. Common sense tells us that as long as a country is highly developed, it will attract more and more people from other countries to learn to speak its languages. For example, some small countries in North Europe possessed beneficial welfare, advanced economy and so on, attracted many Chinese people to migrate to these countries, then of course the languages in these countries will avoid becoming extinct due to lesser and lesser people to speak.

To sum up, the various languages is the basis of variety of culture, however, the extinction of some of the languages are inevitably. Instead of acting to prevent the extinguishments of languages, the government should take actions to promote the country's development.

naiba369UID: 131655

占座先！

麻烦问一下楼主的具体考试时间。

ZHGsunnyUID: 185312

1.25 日，北京，没几天了，55555-----------, 谢谢naiba369的支持！

netbugwangUID: 157454

the  用法不太好，句子语序有点毛病，其它都很好啊
我28号，共勉

haiyaUID: 187989

看了一下你的大体思路。
我觉得b2中的论点有点软。
难道形成一种共同交流的语言必须以牺牲小语种为代价吗？我觉得着并不是完全对立的两方面。所以论述同一语言作为官方用语的好处不能说明我们不应该保护小语种。这个反证好象不是特别充分。

btw，对于这道题我的观点是agree的。
1。小语种的确消失，globalization，
2。小语种的重要性
a) 是人类智慧的结晶，比如希腊神话
b) 是一个民族的象征，传乘民族文化和传统。（民族尊严之类的，一个民族的语言消灭了代表着一个民族的灭亡）
c) 让世界变得更多彩
3.保护措施。奖励那些研究小语种的人，提高国家自豪感。

花之颜色UID: 187195

The speaker claims that many of the world's lesser-known languages are being lost as fewer and fewer people speak them, therefore the government of countries in which these languages are spoken should act to prevent such languages from becoming extinct. I disagree with the conclusion.

First of all, it is true that the different languages in different countries that compose the various culture of the world. The extinction of some languages will be inevitably a great loss for world culture and the history written in these languages. However, the languages are being lost as fewer and fewer people speak them is an unchanged, according to the evolution theory in nature, put forward by Darwin, which is equally suit for languages. If a country with lagging economy and less people, with the strength of other countries, sooner or later its languages will be replaced. In many countries, in which English is their official languages, is an obvious example.

In addition, the conformity of languages is necessary for communication in the world. As it is known for all of us that [U]with the contact among countries become more and more tight, [/U]  with 不能引导从句the different languages in different countries is the [U]mainly [/U]  形容词obstacle. In national conferences, for instance, it is difficult for people from various countries to deeply discuss some issues for they cannot understand each other. Now the generalization of English is the production to [U]satisfy their national necessary. [/U] 跟上下文有啥联系？ The important national conferences, the significant match, such as Olympics, the primary documents in each field, are most written in English. And thanks to conformity of languages, the national communication becomes easy, and this benefits [U]for [/U]  benefit及物啊不用forthe development of any field. For example, in my major-architecture, most of the important national articles are written in English, by learning these materials we can understand the level in architecture in each countries and even we can discuss with famous professors in English, all of which will contribute our studying.

Finally, whether the government of the countries in which the being lost languages is spoken should act to prevent this tendency. In my view, the action for promoting the development of a country is more effective than action for prevent the languages for becoming extinct. Common sense tells us that as long as a country is highly developed, it will attract more and more people from other countries to learn to speak its languages. For example, some small countries in North Europe possessed beneficial welfare, advanced economy and so on, attracted many Chinese people to migrate to these countries, then of course the languages in these countries will avoid becoming extinct due to lesser and lesser people to speak.

To sum up, [U]the various languages is [/U]  主谓不一致the basis of avariety of cultures, however, the extinction of some of the languages are [U]inevitably.[/U] adj Instead of acting to prevent the extinguishments of languages, the government should take actions to promote the country's developmentto attract more people to learn its language.

论证角度很新,两个分论点也环环相扣,除了一些小毛病外,很不错的一篇文章,限时情况下能写出这样一篇文章,真的很让人羡慕啊,相信楼主一定会考的不错,学习的榜样啊~

ZHGsunnyUID: 185312

TO: netbugwang, 谢谢你的鼓励！祝28 日，杀机成功！
TO:haiya, 可能是我没有表达清楚，我并没有“形成一种共同交流的语言必须以牺牲小语种为代价“这样的意思，我是想表达：随着语言globalization 这样一种趋势，那些经济不发达的小国家的语种必将被淘汰。不过再仔细琢磨琢磨， 我的结构是不太清楚，正文第一段和第二段有重复。
我想改成这样可能会好些：
1。 小语种的重要性
2。 小语种的消失是一种必然趋势， 根据优胜劣汰原则。
3。 采取的措施， 发展经济。
你的提纲挺好的，受益匪浅！

ZHGsunnyUID: 185312

谢谢花之颜色！实在不好意思，有那么多低级错误，让你费神了。一开始限时，就有点着急， 错误率也直线上升，希望考前这几天能把这个毛病改掉。Sigh--------------.

blur13_0UID: 150275

No.1 ISSUE13 机井限时，写过的近来讨论讨论！
=========Issue 13，题目=========
Many of the world's lesser-known languages are being lost as fewer and fewer people speak them. The government of countries in which these languages are spoken should act to prevent such languages from becoming extinct.

===========正文=========
The speaker claims that many of the world's lesser-known languages are being lost as fewer and fewer people speak them, therefore the government of countries in which these languages are spoken should act to prevent such languages from becoming extinct. I disagree with the conclusion.可以稍微用点时间把题目改成“The speaker claims that the government of countries where lesser-known languages are spoken should act to prevent these languages from becoming extinct，which are being lost as fewer and fewer people speak them.”内容没变，就是语序改了改，呵呵

First of all这里为何不用admittedly呢, it is true that the different languages in different countries that compose the various culture of the world. The extinction of some languages will be inevitably a great loss for world culture and the history written in these languages. However, the languages are being lost as fewer and fewer people speak them is an unchanged, according to the evolution theory in nature, put forward by Darwin, which is equally suit for languages. If a country with lagging economy and less people, with the strength of other countries, sooner or later its languages will be replaced. In many countries, in which English is their official languages, is an obvious example.Darwin的理论没有直接提到语言吧，这里直接说according to是否。。。那个了呢，呵呵。或者再加一句话把自然的进化语言的相似点补充一下会好点，比如说有些语言不适应社会的变化所以必然be eliminated through selection and contests，然后再用句话引出下面的body

In addition, the conformity of languages is necessary for communication in the world. As it is known for all of us that with the contact among countries become more and more tight, the different languages in different countries is the mainly obstacle. In national conferences, for instance, it is difficult for people from various countries to deeply discuss some issues for they cannot understand each other. Now the generalization of English is the production to satisfy their national necessary. The important national conferences, the significant match, such as Olympics, the primary documents in each field, are most written in English. And thanks to conformity of languages, the national communication becomes easy, and this benefits for the development of any field. For example, in my major-architecture, most of the important national articles are written in English, by learning these materials we can understand the level in architecture in each countries and even we can discuss with famous professors in English, all of which will contribute our studying. 你也是学建筑的吗，呵呵，但我还得说：其实所有的领域英语都很重要啊促进交流阿，建筑没代表性阿，可以说Le Corbusier 在印度作规划时，碰到很多土著居民，语言不通很难为他们做好设计。但想想，这段一直在说the conformity，但好像没说出the contradiction between protecting lesser-known language and the conformity or English啊

Finally, whether the government of the countries in which the being lost languages is spoken should act to prevent this tendency. In my view, the action for promoting the development of a country is more effective than action for prevent the languages for becoming extinct. Common sense tells us that as long as a country is highly developed, it will attract more and more people from other countries to learn to speak its languages. For example, some small countries in North Europe possessed beneficial welfare, advanced economy and so on, attracted many Chinese people to migrate to these countries, then of course the languages in these countries will avoid becoming extinct due to lesser and lesser people to speak.啊，看懂了，原来你想说发展国力更重要，但我的疑问还是：1。North European countries原来没有endeavor to preserve the domination of their mother language吗？？查查google他们一直倔的很啊，疯狂对母语地方保护啊！2。act on protection 到底碍了advance of  economy是么事啊，如果不说明白，有点问题

To sum up, the various languages is the basis of variety of culture, however, the extinction of some of the languages are inevitably. Instead of acting to prevent the extinguishments of languages, the government should take actions to promote the country's development.或者可以说promotion of the country's development should take precedence over everything including acting on the protection of lesser-known languages.
总评：
1．写这么多不容易阿，行文很畅，结构分明，保持信心！ ;) !!!!
2．我是鸡蛋里挑骨头，赫赫，但是，一定注意扣住题目的关键词！

naiba369UID: 131655

开头：开头属于“复述题目＋表达观点”的那种比较开门见山式的，但从题目上直接照搬的太多，你可以试着换一种说法。而我比较喜欢的是那种从一个与此话题相关的、为大家所熟知的话题入手，做为“话引子”，然后再转述题目，感觉比较自然。

B1：你的论点是：语言也是符合“适者生存”的进化论理论。这个问题比较大。从上高二生物第一节课开始，我们的那个老师就说：进化论是不适用于人类社会的。毕竟，人类的各种关系，远远超越了生物种族的基本要求，情感、道德、……，致使我们不能将进化论进行推广。而二战中纳粹对犹太人的迫害就是这种错误理论的最直接体现。而其中语言的diversity可以促使各种语言相互吸收、促进、发展，这样才能保证它有足够的生命力。而当一种语言消失后，我们逝去的不仅仅是一种语言，而是做为一种文化传播的载体、媒质。倘若汉语消失了，没有人能读的懂，那中华文明如何传承呢？这才是语言保护的关键所在。楼主只是片面的看了一下，它的基本交流属性，而忽略了它的的文化载体属性。

后面的论证似乎还是论点有问题，楼主可以自己考虑一下。大家也可以讨论一下。我感觉这个issue还是要从赞成的角度分析，毕竟世界各地都再做语言保护的努力，写东西没必要什么都特立独行。但是如果能自圆其说也行，可惜楼主的切入点不是太好。

呵呵哈，又开始拍砖了:D ，继续努力，你的有点是结构清晰，呵呵，学理的吧，呵呵。当你的内在结构清楚后，大的框架就错不了，只要论点还行，4.5就问题不大。呵呵

加油！！！

ZHGsunnyUID: 185312

谢谢blur13_0和naiba369的砖头，思路开阔了不少哦！
关于naiba369提到的进化论，得承认我对于进化论到底适用于哪些领域确实不是很清楚，但我觉得语言应该同样符合优胜劣汰，语言不仅仅是一种语言，它不能孤立于政治经济之外，不能否认英语的普及确实是英美经济发达的结果。如果今天世界上经济最发达政治影响力最大的国家是中国，那么很有可能汉语将成为国际性语言， 你说呢？所以我认为，在当今这样一种语言globalization的形势下，发展经济才是防止一种语言消失的正道，只要经济发达，政治影响力大，本国人少没关系， 它可以吸引其他国家的人来学习， 对吧？hihi, 我确实是学理的，建筑。学理的不足之处就是思路窄，例子少，还望多指教!

ZHGsunnyUID: 185312

我可能把进化论和优胜劣汰混同在一起了，naiba369如果这方面的知识比较丰富的话，能再详细地给解释一下吗？多谢了！

ZHGsunnyUID: 185312

哇！掉的好快！

naiba369UID: 131655

呵呵,帮你顶了.:D

naiba369UID: 131655

进化论不是最大的问题，关键是，你将语言的功能弱化了。倘若语言仅仅做为一种记录信息的工具，ok，我觉得一种就好，多了还麻烦。

但是，恰恰相反。语言承载了太多太多的人文情怀！！！

首先，我想说的是：这里讨论的语言应该既包含说话的“语音”，更得包含书面的“文字”。是否有系统的文字符号是一种语言是否存在的很关键的一个标志。像客家话中的很多那种音（Jay周说rap那个腔儿），他们只能说，但没法写，（我福建漳州的一个同学告我的，具体有待牛人考证），所以不是一个语言，应该归到中国方言里面，隶属汉语。


其次，语言是思想、文化的最本质的载体。衡量一个文明开始的标志就是是否有一套完整的语言系统。像日本，韩国，东亚周边国家，在很早都只能使用汉语，而没有自己文字的历史，明显有一种附庸国的感觉。（实质也是，像古代的百济，新罗，……，都是要向中国进贡的，实质是一种“臣子”的身份。）

然后，倘若一种语言彻底消失了，那么用这种语言记录的思想，文化，也就随之丧失，而人们面对一群自己毫无意义的符号面前，是怎么也吸收不了多少文化养料的。

还有一点就是：坚持语言的多样性，这本身就是一个肯定的公理似的命题，是经过多方专家论证，如果再在上面纠缠，实在没有意义。假设没有意义，中东的许多国家也不会立法强制他们的孩子学已经消失的希伯来语。

呵呵，我是学EE的，也是理工，好多东西也没记清。呵呵

多讨论吧。