issue214关于天才儿童,超高频,互该

枫丹UID: 166492

214．"Society should identify those children who have special talents and abilities and begin training them at an early age so that they can eventually excel in their areas of ability. Otherwise, these talents are likely to remain undeveloped."



There is much controversy about the necessary of serving earlier training to the children with extraordinary talents and abilities. In my point of view, the early training to these so called talents is not desirable and necessary enough. In fact this kind of the training may be more harmful than beneficial to those children and even the society.

In the first place, the statement itself is a bit misleading in that in our society, there is no certain scientific criterion to determine which child is a talent and which is not. Each year, many children who are considered as talents are sent to special school and receive special trainings which are thought to be useful to their future development. But are they really good at this field? Do they really have the talents in this area? Maybe a boy just has some interests in mathematics and then is consequently thought to have special talent and capability in the field of math and is forced to do math practice every day. However, perhaps, what really possess him or the real talent of himself is music or others. From this point, the so called special training which most educators take pride in is just a way to undermine the talents of the child but not to boost their intellectual potential.

In the second place, assuming that one day those educationists find a scientific method -at least they believe it is, to select these talents, it is also hard for us to be sure that the particular training is desirable. Perhaps, this kind of the training can prepare them for these special areas where they have certain talents. But what they need is not only the training of the particular ability but also other knowledge and capabilities: the skill to communicate with others, the ability to identify the wrong from the right, the responsibility to the society, the love of the country and belief in the principles of liberty, equality and so on. (排比用的好) Unfortunately, in the course of the special training, the education of the cultural identity and the normal ability are generally ignored. In most cases, these talents are separated from their peers and their families without chances to gain the happiness coming from their friends and their parents. They even are told that they are special men with extraordinary talents, so they become arrogant and presumptuous. Then the result is that though these talents fulfill the hopes of the society and posses the complex knowledge and expert skills, however they loss the basic ability to live, that their knowledge increase, but at the same time their capacities for evil may also augment. In this case, can they be called excellent ones?

Last but not least, without the special training coming from the society, these talents may be cultivated more healthily. Given appropriate guidance, help and more freedom to develop their talents, they may find more interests in the field where they have talents and develop their ability and culture identity at the same time. History tells us, lots of the famous people who had shown special ability in their childhoods have gained success in the future through proper guidance. Albert Einstein is just an excellent example of this kind of the prime people.

In sum, for these special children with excellent abilities and talents, we call for a more scientific education method and more freedom environment to develop their talents given by the god. In the health ambiance more talents will be found and become not only the excellent in their special fields but also the eligible citizens of the society.

枫丹UID: 166492

up :)

legendhfwangUID: 191674

214．"Society should identify those children who have special talents and abilities and begin training them at an early age so that they can eventually excel in their areas of ability. Otherwise, these talents are likely to remain undeveloped."



There is much controversy about the necessary of serving earlier training to the children with extraordinary talents and abilities. In my point of view, the early training to these so called talents is not desirable and necessary enough. In fact this kind of the training may be more harmful than beneficial to those children and even the society.

In the first place, the statement itself is a bit misleading in that in our society, there is no certain scientific criterion to determine which child is a talent(talented one) and which is not. Each year, many children who are considered as talents are sent to special school and receive special trainings which are thought to be useful to their future development. But are they really good at this field(field指什么)? Do they really have the talents in this area? Maybe a boy just has some interests in mathematics and then is consequently thought to have special talent and capability in the field of math and is forced to do math practice every day. However, perhaps, what really possess him or the real talent of himself is music or others这句话不好. From this point, the so called （so-called）special training which most educators take pride in is just a way to undermine the talents of the child but not to boost their intellectual potential.

In the second place, assuming that one day those educationists find a scientific method -at least they believe it is, to select these talents, it is also hard for us to be sure that the particular training is desirable. Perhaps, this kind of the training can prepare them for these special areas where they have certain talents. But what they need is not only the training of the particular ability but also other knowledge and capabilities: the skill to communicate with others, the ability to identify the wrong from the right, the responsibility to the society, the love of the country and belief in the principles of liberty, equality and so on. (排比用的好) Unfortunately, in the course of the special training, the education of the cultural identity and the normal ability are generally ignored. In most cases, these talents are separated from their peers and their families without chances (chance)to gain the happiness coming from their friends and their parents. They even are (even)told that they are special men with extraordinary talents, so they become arrogant and presumptuous. Then the result is that though these talents fulfill the hopes of the society and posses the complex knowledge and expert skills, however they loss the basic ability to live, that their knowledge increase, but at the same time their capacities for evil may also augment. In this case, can they be called excellent ones?

Last but not least, without the special training coming from the society, these talents may be cultivated more healthily. Given appropriate guidance, help and more freedom to develop their talents, they may find more interests in the field where they have talents and develop their ability and culture identity at the same time. History tells us, lots of the famous people who had shown special ability in their childhoods have gained success in the future through proper guidance. Albert Einstein is just an excellent example of this kind of the prime people.

In sum, for these special children with excellent abilities and talents, we call for a more scientific education method and more freedom environment to develop their talents given by the god. In the health ambiance more talents will be found and become not only the excellent in their special fields but also the eligible citizens of the society.

是不是有个addmittendly更好，不过已经写的好长了。

枫丹UID: 166492

perhaps, what really possess him or the real talent of himself is music or others这句话不好.
能告诉我为什么不好吗？

jaojieUID: 195494

There is much controversy about the necessary of serving earlier training to the children with extraordinary talents and abilities. In my point of view, the early training to these so called talents is not desirable and necessary enough. In fact this kind of the training may be more harmful than beneficial to those children and even the society. 开头挺好.

In the first place, the statement itself is a bit misleading in that in our society, there is no certain scientific criterion to determine which child is a talent and which is not. Each year, many children who are considered as talents are sent to special school and receive special trainings which are thought to be useful to their future development. But are they really good at this field? Do they really have the talents in this area? Maybe a boy just has some interests in mathematics and then is consequently thought to have special talent and capability in the field of math and is forced to do math practice every day. (好长阿，表达也不太地道，试着变换一下句式把）However, perhaps, what really possess him or the real talent of himself is music or others.（chinlings,？） From this point, the so called special training which most educators take pride in is just a way to undermine the talents of the child but not to boost their intellectual potential.

In the second place, assuming that one day those educationists find a scientific method -at least they believe it is, to select these talents, it is also hard for us to be sure that the particular training is desirable. Perhaps, this kind of the training can prepare them for these special areas where they have certain talents. But what they need is not only the training of the particular ability but also other knowledge and capabilities: the skill to communicate with others, the ability to identify the wrong from the right, the responsibility to the society, the love of the country and belief in the principles of liberty, equality and so on. (排比用的好) 真不错！Unfortunately, in the course of the special training, the education of the cultural identity and the normal ability are generally ignored. In most cases, these talents are separated from their peers and their families without chances to gain the happiness coming from their friends and their parents. They even are told that they are special men with extraordinary talents, so they become arrogant and presumptuous. （结论与前的关系似乎太急了吧，哪里就导致arrogant l了Then the result is that though these talents fulfill the hopes of the society and posses the complex knowledge and expert skills, however they loss the basic ability to live, that their knowledge increase, but at the same time their capacities for evil may also augment.(夸张了吧evil?I）n this case, can they be called excellent ones?

Last but not least, without the special training coming from the society, these talents may be cultivated more healthily. Given appropriate guidance, help and more freedom to develop their talents, they may find more interests in the field where they have talents and develop their ability and culture identity at the same time. History tells us, lots of the famous people who had shown special ability in their childhoods have gained success in the future through proper guidance. Albert Einstein is just an excellent example of this kind of the prime people. （说完就走了，后面的解释呢）

In sum, for these special children with excellent abilities and talents, we call for a more scientific education method and more freedom environment to develop their talents given by the god. In the health ambiance more talents will be found and become not only the excellent in their special fields but also the eligible citizens of the society.（这句不错！）
  
我觉得总的来说听不错，
我也写了一篇，不过不好，又时间批批吧。：）
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枫丹UID: 166492

谢谢：我也感觉我第三段论证的不好，句子也不是很流利，我感觉我的句子结构太简单了。

最初由 jaojie 发布
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mondiaUID: 193825

214. "Society should identify those children who have special talents and abilities and begin training them at an early age so that they can eventually excel in their areas of ability. Otherwise, these talents are likely to remain undeveloped."

214. 社会应该发现那些具有特殊天赋和能力的孩子，并在小时候就开始训练他们，这样他们最终能在他们擅长的领域中出类拔萃。否则这些潜能很可能得不到发展。

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Such case is not so difficult to recollect around us that some neighour's child with special talents and abilities in some areas,such as music or I-go,doesn't have their gift developed or get ahead in those fields at last.How pity is the miss of the God's gift!If the society detects those children and fosters them at an early age (so that they may eventually excel in their areas of abilities),it will be an invaluable gift for our angelets,and for our society its own,although the good gift is not so easy to make.

Different child gets different gifts from the God.Among these gifts,many abilities and talents should be identified and trained when a person was young,otherwise,with the grownth of the physiological and metal state of the child,they will fadeaway little by little.The good example comes from the field of music and gymnastics.The detection and training of Beethoven and Mozart's genius for music in their nonage was pivotal for their achievemnet later,without that maybe we haven't the opportunity to appreciate those masterpieces today.As for gymnastics,it is reported that chinese gymnasts(like Lan Sang) are all picked out at an early age about five or six years old through some select ways,and then they begin to get the professional training of the ability.If not follow this way (想表达:"如果不这样做",应该怎么写啊?)at an early age,with the grownth of the bones,they will lose the best flexility and ability of balance,miss the God's gift pitipfully.These are the excellent examples of the need to identify and train those children early.

However,some facts lead us to thing all-sided of the notion above.Through media,we always learn the fact that most of our gymnasts are short of basic knowledges and living skills.Sometimes the medal becomes the only guarantee of the rest life when they become older and not fit for the sports any longer.Another example in our everday life is the football player,whose characer is always the hot topic in our conversation.These problems above shows us the pity result of our not all-sided training and education we practised towards our angelets.In addition,the education of ethics,psychology and culture that we neglect
ed before are absolutely necessarily for the grownth of those children,for their nonage,especially for the time they become out of commission ultimately.

Society should be a good gardener,indentify the unique secret of the seeds,cultivate it carefully,and help them open the charmest and bonniest faces to the God.Indeed it will be a pity if we miss the God's gift,howerver,a beantiful flower coming out with deformity in heart is also mournful.（以上比喻句写法对么？）Help detect and foster the abilities and talents of our angelets and aiso give them integrated education,then the God may smile.

还有，angelet,nonage等词的用法对么？
idntify,train有哪些同义表达？
比如：detect,discover;foster,culvilate可以么？
还有一个弱弱的问题，高人指点kid应该用child比较正式，
还有其它哪些词要注意这点？
最后，文中如果使用反问句是不是会显得太唐突？（比如一楼的文中）
谢谢！

alinazhUID: 187151

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dabaoqiaoUID: 195888

There is much controversy about the necessary of serving earlier training to the children with extraordinary talents and abilities. In my point of view, the early training to these so called talents is not desirable and necessary enough. In fact this kind of the training may be more harmful than beneficial to those children and even the society.

In the first place, the statement itself is a bit misleading in that in our society, there is no certain scientific criterion to determine which child is a talent and which is not. Each year, many children who are considered as talents are sent to special school (schools) and receive special trainings which are thought to be useful to their future development. But are they really good at this field? Do they really have the talents in this area? Maybe a boy just has some interests in mathematics and then is consequently thought to have special talent and capability in the field of math and is forced to do math practice every day. However, perhaps, what really possess him or the real talent of himself (him) is music or others. From this point, the so called special training which most educators take pride in is just a way to undermine the talents of the child but not to boost their intellectual potential.

In the second place, assuming that one day those educationists find a scientific method -at least they believe it is, to select these talents(这句话让我想起了argument), it is also hard for us to be sure that the particular training is desirable. Perhaps, this kind of the training can prepare them for these special areas where they have certain talents. But what they need is not only the training of the particular ability but also other knowledge and capabilities: the skill to communicate with others, the ability to identify the wrong from the right, the responsibility to the society, the love of the country and belief in the principles of liberty, equality and so on. (排比用的好) Unfortunately, in the course of the special training, the education of the cultural identity and the normal ability are generally ignored. In most cases, these talents are separated from their peers and their families without chances to gain the happiness coming from their friends and their parents. They even are told that they are special men with extraordinary talents, so they become arrogant and presumptuous. Then the result is that though these talents fulfill the hopes of the society and posses the complex knowledge and expert skills, however they loss the basic ability to live, that their knowledge increase, but at the same time their capacities for evil may also augment. In this case, can they be called excellent ones?

Last but not least, without the special training coming from the society, these talents may be cultivated more healthily. Given appropriate guidance, help and more freedom to develop their talents, they may find more interests in the field where they have talents and develop their ability and culture identity at the same time. History tells us, lots of the famous people who had shown special ability in their childhoods have gained success in the future through proper guidance. Albert Einstein is just an excellent example of this kind of the prime people.

In sum, for these special children with excellent abilities and talents, we call for a more scientific education method and more freedom environment to develop their talents given by the god. In the health ambiance more talents will be found and become not only the excellent in their special fields but also the eligible citizens of the society.
呵呵，写得很不错，我挑不出什么毛病来，呵呵，比我的强多了：）

枫丹UID: 166492

你的表扬,让我一时找不到北了.,呵呵其实问题很多,主要是没限时,让大家帮我看一下逻辑如何,等我改完,我们讨论.

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枫丹UID: 166492

好,之前,我也占了几个位置,可是等改完,贴子却找不到了

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QUOTE]最初由 mondia 发布
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legendhfwangUID: 191674

what really prossesses him or his talent
当然如果改的不好，还请见晾

alinazhUID: 187151

214．"Society should identify those children who have special talents and abilities and begin training them at an early age so that they can eventually excel in their areas of ability. Otherwise, these talents are likely to remain undeveloped."

There is much controversy about the necessary of serving earlier training to the children with extraordinary talents and abilities. In my point of view, the early training to these so called talents is not desirable and necessary enough. In fact this kind of the training may be more harmful than beneficial to those children and even the society. 开头好，简单而且态度很明确。

In the first place, the statement itself is a bit misleading in that in our society, there is no certain scientific criterion to determine which child is a talent and which is not. 肯据你下面的讨论，这句应该是没有科学标准决定孩子的哪方面具有天才的能力Each year, many children who are considered as talents are sent to special school and receive special trainings which are thought to be useful to their future development. But are they really good at this field? Do they really have the talents in this area? Maybe a boy just has some interests in mathematics and then is consequently thought to have special talent and capability in the field of math and is forced to do math practice every day. However, perhaps, what really possess him or the real talent of himself is music or others. From this point, the so called special training which most educators take pride in is just a way to undermine the talents of the child but not to boost their intellectual potential.

In the second place, assuming that one day those educationists find a scientific method -at least they believe it is, to select these talents, it is also hard for us to be sure that the particular training is desirable. Perhaps, this kind of the training can prepare them for these special areas where they have certain talents. But what they need is not only the training of the particular ability but also other knowledge and capabilities: the skill to communicate with others, the ability to identify the wrong from the right, the responsibility to the society, the love of the country and belief in the principles of liberty, equality and so on. (排比用的好) （即上原因，为什么这些知识与能力他们仍就需要，这样让你的观点更具说服力）Unfortunately, in the course of the special training, the education of the cultural identity and the normal ability are generally ignored.是吗？有这样的事实证明吗？ In most cases, these talents are separated from their peers and their families without chances to gain the happiness coming from their friends and their parents. They even are told that they are special men with extraordinary talents, so they become arrogant and presumptuous. Then the result is that though these talents fulfill the hopes of the society and posses the complex knowledge and expert skills, however they loss the basic ability to live, that their knowledge increase, but at the same time their capacities for evil may also augment. In this case, can they be called excellent ones?

Last but not least, without the special training coming from the society, these talents may be cultivated more healthily. Given appropriate guidance, help and more freedom to develop their talents, they may find more interests in the field where they have talents and develop their ability and culture identity at the same time. History tells us, lots of the famous people who had shown special ability in their childhoods have gained success in the future through proper guidance. Albert Einstein is just an excellent example of this kind of the prime people.

In sum, for these special children with excellent abilities and talents, we call for a more scientific education method and more freedom environment to develop their talents given by the god. In the health ambiance more talents will be found and become not only the excellent in their special fields but also the eligible citizens of the society.
语言没有问题，逻辑也很好。

luoxi1000UID: 197343

214．"Society should identify those children who have special talents and abilities and begin training them at an early age so that they can eventually excel in their areas of ability. Otherwise, these talents are likely to remain undeveloped."



There is much controversy about the necessary(necessarity) of serving earlier training to the children with extraordinary talents and abilities. In my point of view, the early training to these so called talents is not desirable and necessary enough. In fact this kind of the training may be more harmful than beneficial(harmful not beneficial,好像没必要用比较) to those children and even the society.

In the first place, the statement itself is a bit misleading in that in our society, there is no certain scientific criterion to determine which child is a talent and which is not. Each year, many children who are considered as talents are sent to special school and receive special trainings which are thought to be useful to their future development. But are they really good at this field? Do they really have the talents in this area? Maybe a boy just has some interests in mathematics and then is consequently thought to have （a）special talent and capability in the field of math and is forced to do math practice every day. However, perhaps, what really possess him or the real talent of himself is music or others. From this point, the so called special training which most educators take pride in is just a way to undermine the talents of the child but not to boost their intellectual potential.

In the second place, assuming that one day those educationists find a scientific method -at least they believe (what )it is, to select these talents, it is also hard for us to be sure that the particular training is desirable. Perhaps, this kind of (the没必要用吧) training can prepare them for these special areas where they have certain talents. But what they need is not only the training of the particular ability but also other knowledge and capabilities: the skill to communicate with others, the ability to identify the wrong from the right, the responsibility to the society, the love of the country and belief in the principles of liberty, equality and so on. (排比用的好) Unfortunately, in the course of the special training, the education of the cultural identity（cultural identity 是啥意思） and the normal ability are generally ignored. In most cases, these talents are separated from their peers and their families without chances to gain the happiness coming from their friends and their parents. They even are told that they are special men with extraordinary talents, so they become arrogant and presumptuous. Then the result is that though these talents fulfill the hopes of the society and posses the complex knowledge and expert skills, however（不能再用however吧） they loss the basic ability to live, （加一个and）that their knowledge increase, but at the same time their capacities for evil may also augment. In this case, can they be called excellent ones?

Last but not (the)least, without the special training coming from the society, these talents may be cultivated more healthily. Given appropriate guidance, help and more freedom to develop their talents, they may find more interests in the field where they have talents and develop their ability and culture identity at the same time. History tells us, lots of the famous people who had shown special ability in their childhoods have gained success in the future through proper guidance. Albert Einstein is just an excellent example of this kind of the prime people.

In sum, for these special children with excellent abilities and talents, we call for a more scientific education method and more freedom environment to develop their talents given by the god. In the health ambiance more talents will be found and become not only the excellent in their special fields but also the eligible citizens of the society.

这些只是一些我自己的看法，拿出来讨论。