ISSUE110 历史学家和讲故事的人，大家帮看看吧

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Issue110  让砖头来得更猛烈些吧！

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When we concern ourselves with the study of history, we become storytellers. Because we can never know the past directly but must construct it by interpreting evidence, exploring history is more of a creative enterprise than it is an objective pursuit. All historians are storytellers.

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Are all historians are really storytellers as the speaker asserts since exploring history is more of a creative enterprise than it is an objective pursuit? As far as I am concerned, I agree that in the history exploring, it is necessary to take some creative thinking in this enterprise. But to say all historians are storytellers is to some extent too arbitrary since critical thinking are needed in the exploring.

To begin with, since it is impossible for historians to experience those significant historical events, what they can do is to hypothesis the history on the basis of precious evidence such as relic, historical record and so forth. Nonetheless, most of the time evidences that could be provided are so limited that it is necessary and imperative for historians to take some creative thinking in the process instead of just reasoning. To support this, one needs to look no further than the history of Qin Dynasty, one of the most important dynasties throughout the history in China. Unfortunately, what is left to historians is some pottery statues, few historical data and ballad since the dictator of Qin dynasty has burned almost all the books including those precious historical records in order to maintain his reign. Accordingly, creative thinking is involved in the enterprise to make rational hypothesis based on objective evidence. In other words, in order to make reasonable explanations on historical evidence, historians have to make some surmises.

Furthermore, critical thinking is a precious and indispensable character of the historians. As we know, not all the historical records are credible due to various reasons. On the one hand, it may because that the governor has those records revised so as to meet his own interest such as solidifying his reign. On the other hand, maybe people have amended the record in order to make some historical events more mysterious and romantic. Therefore, historians have to use critical thinking to tell what is true in the process of exploring history for the sake of historical authenticity.

What is more, historians are far from storytellers although both involve creative work. What storytellers do is to make stories live and vivid in order to attract people’s attention regardless of their authenticity while historians' work is to make logical analysis and hypothesis based on reasoning and what is more, critical thinking, so as to provide a true history to people. Put it more simply, it is the attitude of pursuing truth that differentiate historians from storytellers.

To sum up, since it is almost impossible to get enough historical evidence to reason out history, critical and creative thinking is needed to make rational hypothesis and historians are not just storytellers.

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bcomerUID: 182621

Are all historians are really storytellers as the speaker asserts since exploring history is more of a creative enterprise than it is an objective pursuit? As far as I am concerned, I agree that in the history exploring, it is necessary to take some creative thinking in this enterprise. But to say all historians are storytellers is to some extent too arbitrary since (2个SINCE in one paragraph，下一段开头又是since用BECAUSE？) critical thinking are (is?) needed in the exploring.

To begin with, since it is impossible for historians to experience those significant historical events, what they can do is to hypothesis (It is a n., hypothesize?) the history on the basis of precious evidence such as relic, historical record and so forth. Nonetheless, most of the time evidences that (which? 后面还有一个that) could be provided are so limited that it is necessary and imperative for historians to take some creative thinking in the process instead of just reasoning. To support this, one needs to look no further than the history of Qin Dynasty, one of the most important dynasties throughout the history in China(中国历史是history in China 还是history of China?). Unfortunately, what is left to historians is some pottery statues, few historical data and ballad since the dictator of Qin(that?) dynasty has burned almost all the books including those precious historical records in order to maintain his reign. Accordingly, creative thinking is involved in the enterprise to make rational hypothesis based on objective evidence. In other words, in order to make reasonable explanations on historical evidence, historians have to make some surmises.

Furthermore, critical thinking is a precious and indispensable character of the historians. As we know, not all the historical records are credible due to various reasons. On the one hand, it may because that the governor has those records revised so as to meet his own interest such as solidifying his reign. On the other hand, maybe people have amended the record in order to make some historical events more mysterious and romantic. Therefore, historians have to use critical thinking to tell what is true in the process of exploring history for the sake of historical authenticity.

What is more, historians are far from storytellers although both involve creative work. What storytellers do is to make stories live and vivid in order to attract people’s attention regardless of their authenticity while historians' work is to make logical analysis and hypothesis based on reasoning and what is more, critical thinking, so as to provide a true history to people. Put it more simply, it is the attitude of pursuing truth that differentiate (+s) historians from storytellers.

To sum up, since it is almost impossible to get enough historical evidence to reason out history, critical and creative thinking is needed to make rational hypothesis and historians are not just storytellers.

方便的话给个提纲吧，改得也方便：）
觉得结构上可能有点问题:)

comingsoonUID: 175137

提纲大概是这样的：
1. 由于史料有限，所以需要一定的creative thinking
2. 因为史料有真有假，所以需要critical thinking 去分辨
3. 历史学家和storytellers不一样，因为critical thinking ,即使在他们的工作中都需要creative thinking

bcomerUID: 182621

……
那第4段的What's more你想怎么翻译？

comingsoonUID: 175137

好像应该用个转折连词，however?

bcomerUID: 182621

恩，我再想想，大概20分钟后告诉你，觉得你文章的结构需要做个调整，我会努力给你建议的:)

IF有空，帮我看看这篇文章吧，都要掉出第3页了 ：（
https://bbs.gter.net/showthread.php
threadid=255316

没空也不要勉强：）
思考ING ^^

bcomerUID: 182621

好不容易登陆上，数据库最近为什么总有问题呢：）

觉得你如果再有一个论点会更充实些，

你的第4段，就是用WHAT'S MORE 开头的那段，只是一个逻辑的阐述，可以作为全文的主线……不必单拿出来（因为那是个两句话就可以说明白的简单逻辑）

最后可以分4段

A第一段，可以不变

B ADMITTEDLY，STORYTELLER和历史学者都有CREATIVE
THINKING 但是不同于STORYTELLER，历史学者不能不……接你的论述。

C HOWEVER，和STORYTELLER不同，历史学者也注重真实性，他们还有着CRITICAL THINKING……接你的论述

D TO SUM UP……

comingsoonUID: 175137

谢谢，这样一改，结构的确比以前要清晰多了，^_^

晚上我帮你看看那篇文章。

bcomerUID: 182621

最初由 comingsoon 发布
[B]谢谢，这样一改，结构的确比以前要清晰多了，^_^

晚上我帮你看看那篇文章。 [/B]

:)：）THANK YOU！

alex_hustUID: 197601

Are all historians are really storytellers as the speaker asserts since exploring history is more of a creative enterprise than it is an objective pursuit? As far as I am concerned, I agree that in the history exploring, it is necessary to take some creative thinking in this enterprise. But to say all historians are storytellers is to some extent too arbitrary since critical thinking are needed in the exploring.

To begin with, since it is impossible for historians to experience those significant historical events, what they can do is to hypothesis the history on the basis of precious evidence such as relic, historical record and so forth. Nonetheless, most of the time evidences that could be provided are so limited that it is necessary and imperative for historians to take some creative thinking in the process instead of just reasoning. To support this, one needs to look no further than the history of Qin Dynasty, one of the most important dynasties throughout the history in China. Unfortunately, what is left to historians is some pottery statues, few historical data and ballad since the dictator of Qin dynasty has burned almost all the books including those precious historical records in order to maintain his reign. Accordingly, creative thinking is involved in the enterprise to make rational hypothesis based on objective evidence. In other words, in order to make reasonable explanations on historical evidence, historians have to make some hypothetic surmises with their imagination.

Furthermore此处应该转折了吧，而不是递进, critical thinking is a precious and indispensable character of the historians. As we know, not all the historical records are credible due to various reasons. On the one hand, it may because that the governor has those records revised so as to meet his own interest such as solidifying his reign. On the other hand, maybe people have amended the record in order to make some historical events more mysterious and romantic. Therefore, historians have to use critical thinking to tell what is true in the process of exploring history for the sake of historical authenticity.

What is more, historians are far from storytellers although both involve creative work. What storytellers do is to make stories live and vivid in order to attract people’s attention regardless of their authenticity while historians' work is to make logical analysis and hypothesis based on reasoning and what is more, critical thinking, so as to provide a true history to people. Put it more simply, it is the attitude of pursuing truth that differentiate historians from storytellers.

To sum up, since it is almost impossible to get enough historical evidence to reason out history, critical and creative thinking is needed to make rational hypothesis and historians are not just storytellers.

开头写的很好，简练直接，但是后面的段落组织似乎没有按照开头的creative和critical thinking展开，表现在第四段上面。

这篇文章的主线很不错，论证两者之间存在相同点，但是又不是纯粹的一致，

第三段缺少例证，似乎就欠缺了说服力。

bcomerUID: 182621

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