issue144 同主题写作 交作业 (造反有理!)

mondiaUID: 193825

希望拍砖，不知这样结尾可不可以？

吸取批评,改

144. "It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value."
*a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings, etc.
艺术家而不是评论家带给了社会一些具有持久价值的东西。
*评论家指的是评价艺术作品的人，例如小说、电影、绘画等。

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提纲:
TS:反对将艺术家和批评家的作用强行分割，将功劳只归于艺术家
B1:让步，是艺术家创作了艺术作品，
例子：达芬奇，塞万提斯
B2:批评家的创造性批评对艺术品价值的发掘，以及价值增值功不可没
例子：《堂吉珂德》从一部闹剧变成具有历史.哲学深度的杰作,
是拜伦，海涅的功劳
B3:尤其对于现代艺术，批评家对艺术作品有关键性的作用
例子：布莱克，卡夫卡的作品是被批评家从尘堆中发掘出来的；
“野兽派”“立体派”的命名对这些作品特质的巨大影响，
今天，这些作品已和这些“标签”深深结合而不可分割
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For the great role the critic plays in the discovery, introduction and
refining of the value of the arts, I can not accept the view above at all. Rather than the unilateral perspective maybe some people take on, I would rather confirm and agree this point: it is critic in company with artist who gives our society something of lasting value, the division and preconception of them in our judgment is not candid and sound indeed.

Undeniably, it is our artist, not critic, who gives birth to every art work. And just for their specialness of the born characteristic, eventually great art works were accepted by society as something of lasting value. Vinci created the " Mona Lisa ",of which the unique beauty and mystery will be an eternal topic for the people later . And nowadays, which we honor as a classics with great profundity of history and philosophy, the "Don Quixote", belongs to the creation of Cervantes. We owe them much gratitude for their precious presents for our spirit dinner.

However, it is just the more knowledge of the background of the "Don Quixote": how does it become so acceptable in history ,that turns me to the more objective attitude I announced at the beginning. When the saga novel was published, it was considered no more than a farce at all. Nevertheless, about 100 years later, it had been praised as we evaluate today. From where was the great conversion stemming? One may say the conversion was attributed to the author,the creator of the character of the work.It is true indeed, however, there was another basilic cause hidden in history, and there was ,the critic. In fact, it should also be attributed to the critics who achieved the increment of the work, such as Byron and Heine. It was their creative critique that enriched the connotation of the work, which lead us a new reading reflection of Don Quixote's story distinct from the people's at Saimantisis time. Nowadays, what we see is no longer a buffoon with unrealistic fantasy, but a hero with advanced consciousness rejected by the society. And we do not rigidly adhere to the incredible plot of the story any more, we begin to realize it was the corruption of the society that made our hero with great character of faithfulness, integrity, and nobility a scoff by those people. Therefore, just as Oscar Wilde pointed out in his "Critics as Artists"(and I paraphrase): critique is crucial to art, for its understanding, its conversation, and its promotion of art.

Turn our view back to the modern art works we can touch in everyday life, we will find out that critique appears even more important to the forming of these work's value. In fact, sometimes the attention of the critic even became the ticket for a modern art work entering the door of history.The great work, such as the poems of William Blake, the novels of Franz Kafka, are all dug out from heavy dust by creative critique. As for Louis Vanxellls' labels of "fauvism" and "cubism", we can still tell how direct affection the unique naming had made during our evaluation of these works today. For the later people, the naming represents some intrinsic character of these works. In some way, the label has turned into the inalienable part of the lasting value of such works.

Permit me to conclude my words as following way: it is the artist who gestates and gives birth to art; it is the critic who fosters art ,and endues the life of art with more meaning and value. From theirs hands, we acquire the rarity present of lasting value.

mondiaUID: 193825

修改了一下，希望大家拍砖!
涌泉相报！

MadheroUID: 125272

咱们互相改吧，我的也没人看..
看你的提纲感觉很有道理，比我的有深度，向你学习~

MadheroUID: 125272

For the great role the critic plays in the discovery, introduction and
refining of the value of the arts, I can not accept the view above at all. Rather than the unilateral perspective maybe some people take on, I would rather confirm and agree this point: it is critic in company with artist who gives our society something of lasting value, the division and preconception of them in our judgment is not candid and sound indeed.

Undeniably, it is our artist, not critic, who gives birth to every art work. And just for their specialness of the born characteristic, eventually great art works were accepted by society as something of lasting value. 作品本身具有lasting valueVinci created the " Mona Lisa ",of which the unique beauty and mystery will be an eternal topic for the people later . And nowadays, which we honor as a classics with great profundity of history and philosophy, the "Don Quixote", belongs to the creation of Saiwantisi. We owe them much gratitude for their precious presents for our spiritspiritual dinner.

However, it is just the more knowledge of the background of the "Don Quixote": how does it become so acceptable in history ?,that turns me to the more objective attitude I announced at the beginning. 这句话感觉很奇怪，是否应该拆开成两句话When the saga novel was published, it was considered no more than a farce at all. Nevertheless, about 100 years later, it had been praised as we evaluate today. From where was the great conversion stemming? One may say the conversion was attributed to the author,the creator of the character of the work.It is true indeed, however, there was another basilic cause hidden in history, and there was ,the critic. In fact, it should also be attributed to the critics who achieved the increment of the work, such as Byron and Heine. It was their creative critique that enriched the connotation of the work, which lead us a new reading reflection of Don Quixote's story distinct from the people's at Saimantisis time. Nowadays, what we see is no longer a buffoon with unrealistic fantasy, but a hero with advanced consciousness rejected by the society. And we do not rigidly adhere to the incredible plot of the story any more, we begin to realize it was the corruption of the society that made our hero with great character of faithfulness, integrity, and nobility a scoff by those people. Therefore, just as Oscar Wilde pointed out in his "Critics as Artists"(and I paraphrase): critique is crucial to art, for its understanding, its conversation, and its promotion of art.由塞万提斯的例子支撑和论证评论家的作用，感觉很有力，词汇和语言很强啊，pfpf

Turn our view back to the modern art works we can touch in everyday life, we will find out that critique appears even more important to the forming of these work's value. In fact, sometimes the attention of the critic even became the ticket for a modern art work entering the door of history.The great work, such as the poems of William Blake, the novels of Franz Kafka, are all dug out from heavy dust by creative critique. As for Louis Vanxellls' labels of "fanvism" and "cubism", we can still tell how direct affection the unique naming had made during our evaluation of these works today. For the later people, the naming represents some intrinsic character of these works. In some way, the label has turned into the indiserptible part of the lasting value of such works.进一步指出评论家的作用

Permit me to conclude my words as following way: it is the artist who gestates and gives birth to art; it is the critic who fosters art ,and endues the life of art with more meaning and value. From theirs hands, we acquire the rarity present of lasting value.结尾略显单薄，和我一个毛病:)

小弟水平有限，没能从结构上提出什么有用建议，惭愧

pringleUID: 195431

For the great role the critic plays in the discovery, introduction and
refining of the value of the arts, I can not accept the view above at all. Rather than the unilateral perspective maybe some people take on, I would rather confirm and agree this point: it is critic in company with artist who gives our society something of lasting value, the division and preconception 多了一个：preconception ：） of them in our judgment isare not candid and sound indeed不太明白最后一句话是什么意思：艺术家和评论家的division and preconception？.

Undeniably, it is our artist, not critic, who gives birth to every art work. And just for their specialness of the born characteristic, eventually great art works were accepted by society as something of lasting value. Vinci created the " Mona Lisa ",of which the unique beauty and mystery will be an eternal topic for the people later . And nowadays, which we honor as a classics with great profundity of history and philosophy, the "Don Quixote", belongs to the creation of Saiwantisi. We owe them much gratitude for their precious presents for our spirit dinner.

However, it is just the moremore可以不要吧 knowledge of the background of the "Don Quixote": how does it become so acceptable in history ?,标点符号有点混乱，可以不要问号thatwhich turns me to the more objective attitude I announced at the beginning. When the saga novel was published, it was considered no more than a farce at all. Nevertheless, about 100 years later, it had been praised as we evaluate today. From where was the great conversion stemming? One may say the conversion was attributed to the author,the creator of the character of the work.It is true indeed, however, there was another basilic cause hidden in history, and there was ,the critic. In fact, it should also be attributed to the critics who achieved the incrementrecognization of the work, such as Byron and Heine. It was their creative critique that enriched the connotation of the work, which lead us a new reading reflection of Don Quixote's story distinct from the people's at Saimantisis time. Nowadays, what we see is no longer a buffoon with unrealistic fantasy, but a hero with advanced consciousness rejected by the society. And we do not rigidly adhere to the incredible plot of the story any more, we begin to realize it was the corruption of the society that made our hero with great character of faithfulness, integrity, and nobility a scoff by those people多余了吧. Therefore, just as Oscar Wilde pointed out in his "Critics as Artists"(and I paraphrase): critique is crucial to art, for its understanding, its conversation, and its promotion of art.是论证得比较充分

Turn our view back to the modern art works we can touch in everyday life, we will find out that critique appears even more important to the forming of these work's value. In fact, sometimes the attention of the critic even became the ticket for a modern art work entering the door of history.The great work, such as the poems of William Blake, the novels of Franz Kafka, are all dug out from heavy dust by creative critique. As for Louis Vanxellls' labels of "fanvism" and "cubism", we can still tell how direct affection the unique naming had made during our evaluation of these works today. For the later people, the naming represents some intrinsic character of these works. In some way, the label has turned into the indiserptibleindispensable part of the lasting value of such works.

Permit me to conclude my words as following way: it is the artist who gestates and gives birth to art; it is the critic who fosters art ,and endues the life of art with more meaning and value. From theirs hands, we acquire the rarity present of lasting value.


能找到那么多例子，好佩服啊
不知道lasting要怎么体现才好，也许像你这样将其重要性阐述深刻能说明吧
不太明白为什么B3要说现代艺术呢，说现代艺术就能表现出评论家的lasting么，难道是留给后人？
我对艺术一窍不通，没有你理解得那么深刻

mondiaUID: 193825

[B]第一次被人拍,痛的好感动！！[/B]

[U]to pringle[/U]
1)
第一段最后一句是想说:在对艺术品价值做评价的时候,这种将艺术和评论强行分离,带有偏见的观点是没有道理的

2) B3是想用来说明：现代艺术领域，对于艺术品来说，一些批评家的关注和评论更是＂性命有关的＂．今天，当我们谈论＂野兽派＂，＂立体派＂的时候，这些批评家取的名字已经深深地影响了我们的欣赏和评价，甚至影响着这些画派后来作品的品质，事实上了，它们已经成为了这些作品生命的一部分．　

3) increment是想指：价值增值

4) a scoff by those people　是宾语后置阿

5) indiserptible想指不可分割的，今天在一片范文中看到了
好像应该用 inalienable 吧

[U]to Madhero[/U]
1）精神晚餐怎么翻，不清楚的说。。
2）第二段开头是想说: 正是关于作品如何变的牛比的更多了解，
使我转而接受另一个更为公正客观的观点

多谢两位，
在下定当涌泉相报！！！

mondiaUID: 193825

忘了．．

结尾想这样写简洁新颖一些，
不恰当么？

希望高手指点

AutoseaUID: 192045

塞万提斯应该是Cervantes吧！

mondiaUID: 193825

谢了!

?
有可能,
我是照着作文综述上写的,没有查过

谢了!
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果然错了... :(

dragondreamUID: 181943

For the great role the critic plays in the discovery, introduction and
refining of the value of the arts, I can not accept the view above at all. Rather than the unilateral perspective maybe some people take on, I would rather confirm and agree this point: it is critic in company with artist who应该用that 吧 强调句型 gives our society something of lasting value, 两句的衔接上似乎有问题，或者可以将，改为。或； the division and preconception of them in our judgment应该指明题目中的观点是有偏见点吧，our judgment 不太明确 is not candid and sound indeed.

Undeniably, it is our artist, not critic, who gives birth to every art work. And just for their specialness of the born characteristic, eventually great art works were accepted by society as something of lasting value. Vinci created the " Mona Lisa ",of which the unique beauty and mystery will be an eternal topic for the people later . And nowadays, which we honor as a classics with great profundity of history and philosophy, the "Don Quixote",或者可以将which句放后面，定语从句要后置啊 belongs to the creation of Saiwantisi. We owe them much gratitude for their precious presents for our spirit dinner.

However, it is just the more？？为什么用more knowledge of the background of the "Don Quixote": how是不是应该大写 does it become so acceptable in history ?, that turns me to the more objective attitude I announced at the beginning. When the saga novel was published, it was considered no more than a farce at all. Nevertheless, about 100 years later, it had been praised as we evaluate today. From where was the great conversion stemming? One may say the conversion was attributed to the author,the creator of the character of the work.It is true indeed, however, there was another basilic cause hidden in history, and there wasthat was？ ,the critic. In fact, it should also be attributed to the critics who achieved the increment of the work, such as Byron and Heine. It was their creative critique that enriched the connotation of the work, which lead us a new reading reflection of Don Quixote's story distinct from the people's at Saimantisis time. Nowadays, what we see is no longer a buffoon with unrealistic fantasy, but a hero with advanced consciousness rejected by the society. And we do not rigidly adhere to the incredible plot of the story any more, we begin to realize it was the corruption of the society that made our hero with great character of faithfulness, integrity, and nobility a scoff by those people. Therefore, just as Oscar Wilde pointed out in his "Critics as Artists"(and I paraphrase): critique is crucial to art, for its understanding, its conversation, and its promotion of art.

Turn our view back to the modern art works we can touch in everyday life, we will find out that critique appears even more important to the forming of these work's value. In fact, sometimes the attention of the critic even became the ticket for a modern art work entering the door of history.The great work, such as the poems of William Blake, the novels of Franz Kafka, are all dug out from heavy dust by creative critique. As for Louis Vanxellls' labels of "fanvism" and "cubism", we can still tell how direct affection the unique naming had made during our evaluation of these works today. For the later people, the naming represents some intrinsic character of these works. In some way, the label has turned into the indiserptible part of the lasting value of such works.这一段没怎么看，统一前面的观点，modern works 不足以证明lasting value

Permit me to conclude my words as following way: it is the artist who gestates and gives birth to art; it is the critic who fosters art ,and endues the life of art with more meaning and value. From theirs hands, we acquire the rarity present of lasting value.

好多生词，累死了--!
例子好多，根本想不到，佩服佩服
结尾还好了，但是相对于其那面每一段那多话就会显得仓促了些。但听有味道的感觉
很好了，我艺术类还一篇也不会写，都有点想放弃呢。加油加油^_^

mondiaUID: 193825

同学帮我改了许多... :)

For the great role the critics play in the discovery, introduction and refining of the value of the arts, I can not accept the view above at all. Rather than the unilateral perspective some people may take on, I would rather confirm and agree on this point: it is critic in company with artist that gives our society something of lasting value, the division and preconception of them in our judgment is not candid and sound indeed.

Undeniably, it is our artist, not critic, who gives birth to every art work. And just for its specialness of the born characteristic, eventually great art works were accepted by society as something of lasting value. Vinci created the "Mona Lisa ", whose beauty and mystery will be appreciated by people forever. And "Don Quixote", honored as a classic with great profundity of history and philosophy nowadays, belongs to the creation of Cervantes.We owe them much gratitude for their precious presents for our spirit regalement.

However, the more knowledge of the background of the "Don Quixote": how does it become so acceptable in history, turns me to the more objective attitude I announced at the beginning.When it was published, it was considered no more than a farce at all. Nevertheless, 100 years later, it had been praised as we evaluate today. Though the conversion should be attributed to the author, it should also be attributed to the critics who achieved the increment of the work, such as Byron and Heine. It is their creative critique enrichs the connotation of the work, leads us a new reading reflection of Don Quixote's story distinct from that of people's at Cervantes’ time. Nowadays, what we see is no longer a buffoon with unrealistic fantasy, but a hero with advanced consciousness rejected by the society. And we do not rigidly adhere to the incredible plot of the story any more, we begin to realize it was the corruption of the society that made our hero with great character of faithfulness, integrity, and nobility a scoff by those people. Therefore, just as Oscar Wilde pointed out in his "Critics as Artists"(and I paraphrase): critique is crucial to art, for its understanding, its conversation, and its promotion of art.

Especially to modern art, critique appears more and more important. In fact, sometimes the attention of the critics even became a ticket for an art work to enter the door of history. The great work, such as the poems of William Blake, the novels of Franz Kafka, are all dug out from heavy dust by creative critique. As for Louis Vanxellls' labels of "fauvism" and "cubism", we can still tell how direct affection the unique naming makes during our evaluation of these workes today. For the later people, the naming represents some intrinsic character of these works. In some way, the label has turned into the inalienable part of the lasting value of such works.

Permit me to conclude my words in following way: it is the artist who gestates and gives birth to art; it is the critic who fosters art, and endues the life of art with more meaning and value. From their hands, we acquire the rare present of lasting value.

mondiaUID: 193825

dreandragom
帮我侃侃啊狗．．

haze1894UID: 185775

希望拍砖，不知这样结尾可不可以？

吸取批评,改

144. "It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value."
*a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings, etc.
艺术家而不是评论家带给了社会一些具有持久价值的东西。
*评论家指的是评价艺术作品的人，例如小说、电影、绘画等。

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提纲:
TS:反对将艺术家和批评家的作用强行分割，将功劳只归于艺术家
B1:让步，是艺术家创作了艺术作品，
例子：达芬奇，塞万提斯
B2:批评家的创造性批评对艺术品价值的发掘，以及价值增值功不可没
例子：《堂吉珂德》从一部闹剧变成具有历史.哲学深度的杰作,
是拜伦，海涅的功劳
B3:尤其对于现代艺术，批评家对艺术作品有关键性的作用
例子：布莱克，卡夫卡的作品是被批评家从尘堆中发掘出来的；
“野兽派”“立体派”的命名对这些作品特质的巨大影响，
今天，这些作品已和这些“标签”深深结合而不可分割
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For the great role the critic plays(表一类人应该用复数吧？而且我觉得for用在开头不太正式） in the discovery, introduction and
refining of the value of the arts, I can not accept the view above at all. Rather than the unilateral perspective maybe some people take on, I would rather confirm and agree this point: it is critic in company with artist who gives（give) our society something of (sonething of可以省去的）lasting value, the division and preconception of them in our judgment is not candid and sound indeed.

Undeniably, it is our artist, not critic, who gives(give) birth to every art work. And just for their specialness of the born (这样是不是好一点？because of artists' born specialized creativity, many gorgous art works could appear in the world and people could appreciate them) characteristic, eventually great art works were accepted by society as something of lasting value. Vinci created the " Mona Lisa ",of which the unique beauty and mystery will be an eternal topic for the people later(你看看这样写呢？of which unique beauty attracts thousands of millions of people in each generation to explore her mysterious smile and it turns out to be a eternal topic) . And nowadays, which we honor as a classics with great profundity of history and philosophy, the "Don Quixote",(这个词移到句首） belongs to the creation of Cervantes. We owe them much gratitude for their precious presents for our spirit dinner.

However, it is just the more knowledge of the background of the "Don Quixote": how does it become so acceptable in history ,that turns me to the more objective attitude I announced at the beginning. When the saga novel was published, it was considered no more than a farce at all. Nevertheless, about 100 years later, it had been praised as we evaluate today. From where was the great conversion stemming? One may say the conversion was attributed to the author,the creator of the character of the work.It is true indeed, however, there was another basilic cause hidden in history, and there was ,the critic. In fact, it should also be attributed to the critics who achieved the increment of the work, such as Byron and Heine. It was their creative critique that enriched the connotation of the work, which lead us a new reading reflection of Don Quixote's story distinct from the people's at Saimantisis time. Nowadays, what we see is no longer a buffoon with unrealistic fantasy, but a hero with advanced consciousness rejected by the society. And we do not rigidly adhere to the incredible plot of the story any more, we begin to realize it was the corruption of the society that made our hero with great character of faithfulness, integrity, and nobility a scoff by those people. Therefore, just as Oscar Wilde pointed out in his "Critics as Artists"(and I paraphrase): critique is crucial to art, for its understanding, its conversation, and its promotion of art.

Turn our view back to the modern art works we can touch in everyday life, we will find out that critique appears even more important to the forming of these work's value. In fact, sometimes the attention of the critic even became the ticket for a modern art work entering the door of history.The great work, such as the poems of William Blake, the novels of Franz Kafka, are all dug out from heavy dust by creative critique. As for Louis Vanxellls' labels of "fauvism" and "cubism", we can still tell how direct affection the unique naming had made during our evaluation of these works today. For the later people, the naming represents some intrinsic character of these works. In some way, the label has turned into the inalienable part of the lasting value of such works.

Permit me to conclude my words as following way: it is the artist who gestates and gives birth to art; it is the critic who fosters art ,and endues the life of art with more meaning and value. From theirs hands, we acquire the rarity present of lasting value.（我觉得最后你应该阐述二者是秘不可分的，共同促进了艺术的发展和流传）
总的来说论证很充分，我觉得写得很好，加油呀，再斟酌一下语言，其实语言不是越长越好，长短句相结合，小词妙用也可以达到意想不到的效果）

mondiaUID: 193825

多谢了
难得又有人看完我的文章,

的确,我得研究一下,
有时自己也把不住,不象写中文,能把把节奏韵律

有空侃侃arhoo的文章
https://bbs.gter.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=257323

很强的说，至少能收获一些例子（希望不仅仅是这样） :cool:

iverUID: 198348

A the distinguished works of art such as sculptures, novels, films, music, paintings are to some extent products of the inspiration of artists, which express the emotion and imagination of workers.
B Critic will refrain artists from working creatively.
C of course, artists such as directors of films can benefit from critic who is familiar with a particular.