ISSUE36 [Smile－C组] 第二次作业，求狠拍！

monica98UID: 2124796

TISSUE36 - "The greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live after them, not by their contemporaries."

The objective view about one's achievements involves the knowledge and relevant societal information about the culture, historical background, and economic elements. More importantly, the unbiased attitude toward the person is also required. In this sense, holding more accurate data and more objective attitude, people in one's later ages will make a more objective judgment about the greatness of a person except for certain particular cases than his or her contemporaries do.

First, when they value what a person dedicate to the society, those who live after a person is more independent thus more impartial than his or her contemporaries. For example, Qinshihuang, the first emperor in Chinese history, unified the whole nation in terms of scale, money and character by conquering six other countries through bloody wars, after that the well-known Great wall was built with the cost of huge manpower under his direction. People at that ages did not regarded him as a great man but ruthless and cold-blood one, because the war and the building of Greatwall directed by Qinshihuang left them in a restless world. However, people living thousands years later and standing in an indifferent position, just like us, view Qinshihuang as a great emperor due to the solid foundation in societal administration and military defense laid by his endeavor.

Second, with the increase of knowledge and the improvement of means of investigation in later ages, the judgment of the greatness of individuals is based on more facts, and more importantly, the lasting influence of their contribution, so the resulting evaluation is more scientific and objective. Many great scientists, such as Newton or Einstein, failed to receive the deserved acknowledgment and respects during their times when there is no much evidence and means to substantiate and apply their theories. Yet when today's science develops into such a sophisticated level, with the aircraft based on Newton's gravity theory and the nuclear power based on Einstein's mass-energy equation, the greatness of these scientists is becoming more and more obvious and far-reaching.

Admittedly, when it comes to the judgment of people in field where immediate results and analysis is automatically the final one, such as in the business realm, the contemporaries will also be able to make an objective judgment about a person. The loss of profits in market competition or the depression of morale of employees will make the leader of the company less successful thus less great in his career since it is by an objective and unchangeable standard (in this case, the profit in business) that people in any time evaluate one company's leader.

In sum, Having more advanced knowledge and unbiased attitude, those who live in later ages is able to make objective judgments about the greatness of a person, while contemporaries can do that only in certain particular fields.

peterleafUID: 2187349

Issue36
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The greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live after them, not by their contemporaries.


Given the fact that many contributions of pioneers could not be acknowledged by their contemporaries but were highly valued later by those who live after them and that lots of great persons do not received their deserved respect in their life time especially in science, one would postulate the greatness of individuals may not be correctly evaluated by their contemporaries. However, the opinion that such greatness can be decided only by those who live after them is too extreme and is kind of misleading.

One kind of societies deserves one kind of thoughts. It is once said by one of the vice presidents of our university that advanced by one year would be appreciable while advanced by five years may be blamed on when he was concerned with the reformation of faculty. A thought advanced by five years may seem too wield（？？这个词）to others and could not be accepted by the public thus is too hard to become reality. It is then presumably that we had better advanced by only one year. （这个引用的地方老美可能觉得有点儿。。。我自己觉得说得不太清楚哦）

However, there are always people who are too talented to be just advanced by one year in all the history. Pioneers, especially in science, may actually lead（超前似乎不这么说吧） by hundreds, maybe thousands of years because pure science is mainly thoughts than practice.（事实上并不是理论科学本身造成了超前，而更可能是伟人的思想） It is proper to cite Bruno and Galileo who struggled for their truth and who are tortured by the misunderstanding of the public among who the former one is even burn to death at stake. It seems that some feats, especially those greatest ones, would take more time to be properly evaluated. Taking such consideration, Novel Prize, which are only given to those alive, is not reasonable in some aspects.

On the other hand, there would be other factors preventing people living after from properly evaluating one's feat. A general struggle for the expansion of his nation and devote his life to it would probably earn a high reputation from his contemporaries for his selfless devotion while thousands of years later, when the different races finally unite into a large nation, the contribution of the general would probably be neglected. In some cases, only contemporaries could tell the rights and wrongs of one person because they are the ones who actually benefit from the goods or suffer from the bads.
(这种评价往往不客观哦，不能体现真正的greatness) Although such comparison may not be proper, comments by descendants is similar with that comments on America given by English in that both could hardly make proper comment due to the different environment and social values.

To sum up, there are cases which could not be properly evaluated by contemporaries and vice versa. It would be hard to tell which of the comments given by contemporaries or later comings is more reasonable. In fact, individuals are evaluated both by their contemporaries and their descendants. It is not necessary to argue which one is right and which one is wrong because opinions are just opinions which are presented by people thus would never be objective. 这个还是去掉好吧The difference between opinions of contemporaries and descendants is just like the difference between that babies like breast milk and that adults dislike it（？？）.

总的感觉是有些比喻和选择的表述方式不是很恰当，
文章的思路是清楚的，说得不对请不要介意哦~

我的Issue36，帮着看一下哦，谢谢哈！链接在下面。

peterleafUID: 2187349

不好意思,贴错了哦

peterleafUID: 2187349

TISSUE36 - "The greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live after them, not by their contemporaries."

The objective view about one's achievements involves the knowledge and relevant societal information about the culture, historical background, and economic elements.可以简洁些 More importantly, the unbiased attitude toward the person is also required. In this sense, holding more accurate data and more objective attitude, people in one's later ages will make a more objective judgment about the greatness of a person except for certain particular cases than his or her contemporaries do.

First, when they value what a person dedicate to the society, those who live after a person is more independent thus more impartial than his or her contemporaries. For example, Qinshihuang, the first emperor in Chinese history, unified the whole nation in terms of scale, money and character by conquering six other countries through bloody wars, after that the well-known Great wall was built with the cost of huge manpower under his direction（tyranny）. People at that ages age did not regarded him as a great man but ruthless and cold-blood one, because the war and the building of Greatwall directed by Qinshihuang left them in a restless world. However, people living thousands years later and standing in an indifferent？？ position, just like us, view Qinshihuang as a great emperor due to the solid foundation in societal administration and military defense laid by his endeavor.

Second, with the increase of knowledge and the improvement of means of investigation in later ages, the judgment of the greatness of individuals is based on more facts, and more importantly, the lasting influence of their contribution, so the resulting evaluation is more scientific and objective. Many great scientists, such as Newton or Einstein, failed to receive the deserved acknowledgment and respects during their times when there is no much evidence and means to substantiate and apply their theories Einstein拿了Noble Priz哦. Yet when today's science develops into such a sophisticated level, with the aircraft based on Newton's gravity theory and the nuclear power based on Einstein's mass-energy equation, the greatness of these scientists is becoming more and more obvious and far-reaching.

Admittedly, when it comes to the judgment of people in field where immediate results and analysis is automatically the final one, such as in the business realm, the contemporaries will also be able to make an objective judgment about a person. The loss of profits in market competition or the depression of morale of employees will make the leader of the company less successful thus less great in his career since it is by an objective and unchangeable standard (in this case, the profit in business) that people in any time evaluate one company's leader.（不排除东山再起的可能，这种判断也可能是阶段性的）

In sum, Having more advanced knowledge and unbiased attitude, those who live in later ages is able to make objective judgments about the greatness of a person, while contemporaries can do that only in certain particular fields.

peterleafUID: 2187349

我的issue36,请看看,谢谢哈~
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EmmanuelleUID: 2231740

The objective view about one's achievements involves the knowledge and relevant societal information about the culture, historical background, and economic elements. More importantly, the unbiased attitude toward the person is also required. In this sense, holding more accurate data and more objective attitude, people in one's later ages will make a more objective judgment about the greatness of a person except for certain particular cases than his or her contemporaries do.

First, when they value what a person dedicate to the society, those who live after a(the) person is more independent thus more impartial（这个推断缺乏证据） than his or her contemporaries. (这里应该多分析为什么后来人就independent and more impartial)For example, Qinshihuang, the first emperor in Chinese history, unified the whole nation in terms of scale, money and character by conquering six other countries through bloody wars, after that the well-known Great wall was built with the cost of huge manpower under his direction. People at that ages did not regarded him as a great man but ruthless and cold-blood one, because the war and the building of Greatwall directed by Qinshihuang left them in a restless world. However, people living thousands years later and standing in an indifferent position, just like us, view Qinshihuang as a great emperor due to the solid foundation in societal administration and military defense laid by his endeavor. （没有说清楚道理，不太让人信服。后来人的看法也受很多因素限制和影响，比如曾经孔夫子也被批得一无是处。例子不用写得过于详细，主要服务于论点）
Second, with the increase of knowledge and the improvement of means of investigation in later ages（可以换个词说）， the judgment of the greatness of individuals is based on more facts, and more importantly, the lasting influence of their contribution, so the resulting evaluation is more scientific and objective. Many great scientists, such as Newton or Einstein, failed to receive the deserved acknowledgment and respects during their times when there is no much evidence and means to substantiate and apply their theories. Yet when today's science develops into such a sophisticated level, with the aircraft based on Newton's gravity theory and the nuclear power based on Einstein's mass-energy equation, the greatness of these scientists is becoming more and more obvious and far-reaching.

Admittedly, when it comes to the judgment of people in field where immediate results and analysis is automatically the final one, such as in the business realm, the contemporaries will also be able to make an objective judgment about a person. The loss of profits in market competition or the depression of morale of employees will make the leader of the company less successful thus less great in his career since it is by an objective and unchangeable standard (in this case, the profit in business) that people in any time evaluate one company's leader.

In sum, Having more advanced knowledge and unbiased attitude, those who live in later ages is able to make objective judgments about the greatness of a person, while contemporaries can do that only in certain particular fields.

思路清晰，两方面都考虑到， 第二点写得不错，原因例子都有，很有说服力。第三点从反面举例说明，不过最好正面举个例子。第一点有问题，可能由于你没有分析为什么后来人就会很客观，难以说服读者。另外，有些语法方面就是冠词啊，复数形式等，好像有点混乱，因为我在这里也挺胡涂的，有些地方我觉得不合适但是不知道对不对，怕误人子弟，没标。以上都是个人观点，仅供参考。:)

[ 本帖最后由 Emmanuelle 于 2006-7-25 12:43 编辑 ]

xinxinwUID: 2144273

The objective view about one's achievements involves the knowledge and relevant societal information about the culture, historical background, and economic elements. More importantly, the unbiased attitude toward the person is also required. In this sense, holding more accurate data and more objective attitude, people in one's later ages will make a more objective judgment about the greatness of a person except for certain particular cases than his or her contemporaries do.

First, when they value what a person dedicate to the society, those who live after a person is more independent thus more impartial than his or her contemporaries. For example, Qinshihuang, the first emperor in Chinese history, unified the whole nation in terms of scale, money and character by conquering six other countries through bloody wars, after that the well-known Great wall was built with the cost of huge manpower under his direction. People at that ages did not regarded him as a great man but ruthless and cold-blood one, because the war and the building of Greatwall directed by Qinshihuang left them in a restless world. However, people living thousands years later and standing in an indifferent无动于衷？ position, just like us, view Qinshihuang as a great emperor due to the solid foundation in societal administration and military defense laid by his endeavor.

Second, with the increase of knowledge and the improvement of means of investigation in later ages, the judgment of the greatness of individuals is based on more facts, and more importantly, the lasting influence of their contribution, so the resulting evaluation is more scientific and objective. Many great scientists, such as Newton or Einstein, failed to receive the deserved acknowledgment and respects during their times when there is no much evidence and means to substantiate and apply their theories. Yet when today's science develops into such a sophisticated level, with the aircraft based on Newton's gravity theory and the nuclear power based on Einstein's mass-energy equation, the greatness of these scientists is becoming more and more obvious and far-reaching.

Admittedly, when it comes to the judgment of people in field where immediate results and analysis is automatically the final one, such as in the business realm, the contemporaries will also be able to make an objective judgment about a person. The loss of profits in market competition or the depression of morale of employees will make the leader of the company less successful thus less great in his career since it is by an objective and unchangeable standard (in this case, the profit in business) that people in any time evaluate one company's leader.

In sum, Having more advanced knowledge and unbiased attitude, those who live in later ages is able to make objective judgments about the greatness of a person, while contemporaries can do that only in certain particular fields.

例子举得不太合适，牛顿和爱因斯坦在世的时候已经是很牛的人了

枫晰UID: 2123661

The objective view about one's achievements involves the knowledge and relevant societal information about the culture, historical background, and economic elements. More importantly, the unbiased attitude toward the person is also required. In this sense, holding more accurate data and more objective attitude, people in one's later ages will make a more objective judgment about the greatness of a person except for certain particular cases than his or her contemporaries do.

First, when they value what a person dedicate to the society, those who live after a person is more independent thus more impartial than his or her contemporaries. For example, Qinshihuang, the first emperor in Chinese history, unified the whole nation in terms of scale, money and character by conquering six other countries through bloody wars, after that the well-known Great wall was built with the cost of huge manpower under his direction. People at that ages did not regarded him as a great man but(a) ruthless and cold-blood one, because the war and the building of Greatwall directed by Qinshihuang left them in a restless world. However, people living thousands years later and standing in an indifferent position, just like us, view Qinshihuang as a great emperor due to the solid foundation in societal administration and military defense laid by his endeavor. (这段例子用的很恰当)
Second, with the increase of knowledge and the improvement of means of investigation in later ages, the judgment of the greatness of individuals is based on more facts, and more importantly(似乎有语法错误), the lasting influence of their contribution, so the resulting evaluation is more scientific and objective. Many great scientists, such as Newton or Einstein, failed to receive the deserved acknowledgment and respects during their times when there is no much evidence and means to substantiate and apply their theories. Yet when today's science develops into such a sophisticated level, with the aircraft based on Newton's gravity theory and the nuclear power based on Einstein's mass-energy equation, the greatness of these scientists is becoming more and more obvious and far-reaching. (举这两人的例子好像不是很恰当,他们在生前都已经受到了高的评价)

Admittedly, when it comes to the judgment of people in field where immediate results and analysis is automatically the final one,(?) such as in the business realm, the contemporaries will also be able to make an objective judgment about a person. The loss of profits in market competition or the depression of morale of employees will make the leader of the company less successful thus less great in his career since it is by an objective and unchangeable standard (in this case, the profit in business) that people in any time evaluate one company's leader.

In sum, Having more advanced knowledge and unbiased attitude, those who live in later ages is able to make objective judgments about the greatness of a person, while contemporaries can do that only in certain particular fields.
文章结构很清晰,lz比我强多了,