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TOPIC: ARGUMENT186 - The following is a recommendation from the director of personnel to the president of Professional Printing Company.

"In a recent telephone survey of automobile factory workers, older employees were less likely to report that having a supervisor present increases their productivity. Among workers aged 18 to 29, 27 percent said that they are more productive in the presence of their immediate supervisor, compared to 12 percent for those aged 30 or over, and only 8 percent for those aged 50 or over. Clearly, if our printing company hires mainly older employees, we will increase productivity and save money because of the reduced need for supervisors."
WORDS: 459          TIME: 0:30:00          DATE: 2006-8-29

In this argument, the author suggests to hire mainly older employees in order to increase productivity and save money because of the reduced need for supervisors by citing an telephone survey of automobile factory workers. However, the suggestion suffers from a series of poor assumption and deduction as well as false analogy which render it wholly unpersuasive as it stands.

To begin with, the survey itself is unconvincing on the form it carried out and the result it gives. First, there is no evidence to show that the survey is conducted by an objective organization which has no relationship with the automobile factories. Secondly, the form it takes also renders its credibility as well. Since the survey was conducted through telephone view, the works might not express their true feelings. It is possible that hiring supervisors did increase productivity but their tight monitor on workers makes them feel not free so they just explained their dissatisfaction via the survey. If so, the author can not persuade me into believing his deduction and suggestion based on such a survey.

Moreover, even if survey's statistics is persuasive, the author can not assertively use it to illustrate his suggestion by using a false analogy between automobile factories and the printing company. In our common sense, automobile work requires mainly physical condition and their familiar with the pipelining work which do not much technology help from their supervisors. While printing works might in badly need of high-tech knowledge and under such circumstances, hiring supervisors would bring more working skills for the printing work. Without ruling the differences between the two kinds of work which would result in a false analogy, the author's suggestion would not be reasonable.

Even assuming that the survey of automobile factory workers can be used on the printing company, the author also fails to give a comprehensive evaluation about the benefit his suggestion might take. Benefit should be scaled from both income and payout. Reducing need for supervisors could save some money for the company, whereas hiring more older employees would cost the company much more since always older employees mean better working experience and usually ask for more payment. Also, there is no direct prove about the increase productivity from aforementioned analysis, to consider the worst, the productivity might be decreased since older people are not passionate as young employees. Hence, the author's assertion on benefit is also unpersuasive.

Accordingly, the recommendation is not well supported. To strengthen his suggestion, the author must provide more evidence to show the relationship between automobile factory workers and the printing company workers, or do another survey among printing workers in this company. To better evaluate the argument, I need know more information about a full-scale calculation to sustain the conclusion of more benefit.

Ajax555UID: 2241288

TOPIC: ARGUMENT186 - The following is a recommendation from the director of personnel to the president of Professional Printing Company.

"In a recent telephone survey of automobile factory workers, older employees were less likely to report that having a supervisor present increases their productivity. Among workers aged 18 to 29, 27 percent said that they are more productive in the presence of their immediate supervisor, compared to 12 percent for those aged 30 or over, and only 8 percent for those aged 50 or over. Clearly, if our printing company hires mainly older employees, we will increase productivity and save money because of the reduced need for supervisors."
WORDS: 459          TIME: 0:30:00          DATE: 2006-8-29

In this argument, the author suggests to hire mainly older employees in order to increase productivity and save money because of the reduced need for supervisors by citing an telephone survey of automobile factory workers. However, the suggestion suffers from a series of poor assumption and deduction as well as false analogy which render it wholly unpersuasive as it stands.

To begin with, the survey itself is unconvincing on the form it carried out and the result it gives. First, there is no evidence to show that the survey is conducted by an objective organization which has no relationship with the automobile factories. Secondly, the form it takes also renders its credibility as well. Since the survey was conducted through telephone view, the works might not express their true feelings. It is possible that hiring supervisors did increase productivity but their tight monitor on workers makes them feel not free so they just explained their dissatisfaction via the survey. If so, the author can not persuade me into believing his deduction and suggestion based on such a survey.
// 批驳这个调查可能不公正  a biased and incomplete survey

Moreover, even if survey's statistics is persuasive, the author can not assertively use it to illustrate his suggestion by using a false analogy between automobile factories and the printing company. In our common sense, automobile work requires mainly physical condition and their familiar with the pipelining work which do not much technology help from their supervisors. While printing works might in badly need of high-tech knowledge and under such circumstances, hiring supervisors would bring more working skills for the printing work. Without ruling the differences between the two kinds of work which would result in a false analogy, the author's suggestion would not be reasonable.
//错误类比，不同领域的调查不能乱用。

Even assuming that the survey of automobile factory workers can be used on the printing company, the author also fails to give a comprehensive evaluation about the benefit his suggestion might take. Benefit should be scaled from both income and payout. Reducing need for supervisors could save some money for the company, whereas hiring more older employees would cost the company much more since always older employees mean better working experience and usually ask for more payment. Also, there is no direct prove--proof ？ about the increase productivity from aforementioned analysis, to consider the worst, the productivity might be decreased since older people are not passionate as young employees. Hence, the author's assertion on benefit is also unpersuasive.
//这份调查得不到增加利润的结论。

Accordingly, the recommendation is not well supported. To strengthen his suggestion, the author must provide more evidence to show the relationship between automobile factory workers and the printing company workers, or do another survey among printing workers in this company. To better evaluate the argument, I need know more information about a full-scale calculation to sustain the conclusion of more benefit.

3个攻击点找的都十分正确
你是按照由次要矛盾到主要矛盾来写的，依次让步
1是错的
哪怕1是对的还有2错
哪怕2是对的还有3错

但是我觉得先写主要错误也就是3，是一个比较好的选择，因为3是整个文章的最大漏洞，哪怕所有错误的假设都正确，也得不到作者的结论，这才是最大的弱点。

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To begin with, the survey itself is unconvincing on the form it carried out and the result it gives. First, there is no evidence to show that the survey is conducted by an objective organization which has no relationship with the automobile factories.有了又怎样?这个有些牵强~ Secondly, the form it takes also renders its credibility as well. 说反了吧...FORM的说法很少见,就说PRECIDURE或者SAMPLE~~建议~Since the survey was conducted through telephone view, the works might not express their true feelings. It is possible that hiring supervisors did increase productivity but their tight monitor on workers makes them feel not free so they just explained their dissatisfaction via the survey. If so, the author can not persuade me into believing his deduction and suggestion based on such a survey.

Moreover, even if survey's statistics is persuasive, the author can not assertively use it to illustrate his suggestion by using a false analogy between automobile factories and the printing company. In our common sense, automobile work requires mainly physical condition and their familiar with the pipelining GOOD~work which do not much technology help from their supervisors. While printing works might in badly need of high-tech knowledge and under such circumstances, hiring supervisors would bring more working skills for the printing work. Without ruling the differences between the two kinds of work which would result in a false analogy, the author's suggestion would not be reasonable.

Even assuming that the survey of automobile factory workers can be used on the printing company, the author also fails to give a comprehensive evaluation about the benefit his suggestion might take. Benefit should be scaled? from both income and payout. Reducing need for supervisors could save some money for the company, whereas hiring more older employees would cost the company much more since always older employees mean better working experience and usually ask for more payment. Also, there is no direct prove about the increase productivity from aforementioned analysis, to consider the worst, the productivity might be decreased since older people are not passionate as young employees. Hence, the author's assertion on benefit is also unpersuasive.

没啥好说的~ 很清楚了  学习一下~