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issue 41 Such nonmainstream areas of inquiry as astrology, fortune-telling, and psychic and paranormal pursuits play a vital role in society by satisfying human needs that are not addressed by mainstream science.

I fundermentally agree with the speaker that nonmainstream areas of inquiry as astrology and paranormal pursuits still play a vital role in society,for the two chief reasons that they satisfy the basic needs of humans and a great number of people consider them scientific.However,such inquiries are irrational and they are more likely to bring about serious harm to their participants and society.

Why are nonmainstream areas of inquiries so popular among people in modern times of highly-advanced technology. First of all,to some degree,they meet the psychological needs of human beings.In the society full with drastic competition and adventure,it is inevitable for a large portion of people to generate a sense of frustration and crisis.Under such situation,they instinctively need to seek an approach that enable them to release from anxiety and direct them a right path to success.Those nonmainstream areas such as astrology which tell people their future fate and how to proceed in life ,thereby naturally become the target they resort to.

Secondly,people are not able to distinguish the real science and those nonmainstream inquries in the light of their inherent nature of equivocality and mystery.With the rapid development of science,it is divided delicately into various branches of subjects each of which has its own technical terms that the majority of people can not understand or have never ever heard of. In those nonmainstream areas also contain such kinds of terms that are mysterious to people.Thus,it is easy for the masses to mistakenly consider, for example,astrology whose technical terms sound relative to astronomy as a scientific field.Furthermore,the government of some certain districts even encourage those who live on telling fortune and divining for others.For instance,in some states of the US,the government grants those astrologists business licenses and give official sanction to open astrology schools.The legitimacy of astrology precipitates the deeper trust of those nonmainstream areas of inquiries gained from the masses.

Nonetheless, actually those nonmainstream areas ,to a great extent ,are pseudoscience which are worthless to be believed in and admired.Take astrology as an example.According to the theory of astrology,one’s own destiny and character are determined by the date of its birth and the constellation. In the year of 1975,a physicist named John Mcgarvey carried out an experiment that he investigated 16634 scientists and 6475 politicians and their birthdays as well.However,the statistics  demonstrated that the dates of their birth did not converge on one certain constellation but distributed averagely all over of them.Another apt illustration of this point involves the instance of Voltaire。When he retrospected to the huge earthquake of Lisban which led to the deaths of fifteen thousands of people,he said(and I paraphrase),”all those victims had the same fate but the constellation of heir births were totally different.” The theories of westen astrology and those nonmainstream inquiries indeed do not refer merely to the constellation,they include complicated contents,yet the analysis of destiny and all that are irrational pseudoscience.

Therefore,due to the irrationality of those nonmainstream pursuits,we should only treat them as entertainment but not the guidance to tell us how to proceed in life,otherwise we will fall prey to the pseudoscience.Here is an example that is convincing.Ronald Reagan ,the previous president of the United States, over-rely on astrology for his every important decision and even the fate of this country were dominated by a female astrologist .This astrologist ,nevertheless ,had never prophesied the Iran-Contra Affair which rendered Reagan quite embarrassed and even make him face the risk of impeachment. Imagine how a society could progress provided that every member depends on those nonmainstream pursuits for help.Thus,what we should believe is that the fate is simply controlled by ourselves.

To sum up,I concede that those nonmainstream pursuits that the speaker lists are likely to offer many people psychological solace.However,such pursuits are not originated from correct logic and reason.Once they become a guidance to steer people’s lives and the fate of society,the potential danger and harm are immeasurable.


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发表于 2006-12-10 22:24:50 |只看该作者
I fundermentally[fundamentally]agree with the speaker that nonmainstream areas ofinquiry as astrology and paranormal pursuits still play a vital role insociety,for the two chief reasons that they satisfy the basic needs ofhumans and a great number of people consider themscientific[view them as scientific means].However,such inquiries are irrational and they are morelikely to bring about serious harm to their participants and society.

Why are nonmainstream areas of inquiries so[still] popular among people inmodern times of highly-advanced technology. First of all,to somedegree,they meet the psychological needs of human beings.In the societyfull with drastic competition and adventure,it is inevitable for alarge portion of people to generate a sense of frustration andcrisis.Under such situation,they instinctively need to seek an approachthat enable them to release from anxiety and direct them a right pathto success.Those nonmainstream areas such as astrology which tellpeople their future fate and how to proceed in life ,thereby naturallybecome the target they resort to.

Secondly,people are not able to distinguish the real science and thosenonmainstream inquries in the light of their inherent nature ofequivocality and mystery.With the rapid development of science,it isdivided delicately into various branches of subjects each of which hasits own technical terms that the majority of people can not understandor have never ever heard of. In those nonmainstream areas also containsuch kinds of terms that are mysterious to people.[没有主语阿]Thus,it is easy[understandable] forthe masses to mistakenly consider, for example,astrology whosetechnical terms sound relative to astronomy as a scientificfield.Furthermore,the government of some certain districts evenencourage those who live on telling fortune and divining for others.Forinstance,in some states of the US,the government grants thoseastrologists business licenses and give official sanction to openastrology schools.The legitimacy of astrology precipitates the deepertrust of those nonmainstream areas of inquiries gained from the masses.

Nonetheless, actually those nonmainstream areas ,to a great extent ,arepseudoscience which are worthless to be believed in and admired.Takeastrology as an example.According to the theory of astrology,one’s owndestiny and character are determined by the date of its birth and theconstellation. In the year of 1975,a physicist named John Mcgarveycarried out an experiment that he investigated 16634 scientists and6475 politicians and their birthdays as well.However,the statisticsdemonstrated that the dates of their birth did not converge on onecertain constellation but distributed averagely all over ofthem.Another apt illustration of this point involves the instance ofVoltaire。When he retrospected to the huge earthquake of Lisban whichled to the deaths of fifteen thousands of people,he said(and Iparaphrase),”all those victims had the same fate but the constellationof heir births were totally different.” The theories of westenastrology and those nonmainstream inquiries indeed do not refer merelyto the constellation,they include complicated contents,yet the analysisof destiny and all that are irrational pseudoscience.[这一大段论述震撼人心哪!]

Therefore,due to the irrationality of those nonmainstream pursuits,weshould only treat them as entertainment but not the guidance to tell ushow to proceed in life,otherwise we will fall prey to thepseudoscience.Here is an example that is convincing.Ronald Reagan ,theprevious president of the United States, over-rely on astrology for hisevery important decision and even the fate of this country weredominated by a female astrologist .This astrologist ,nevertheless ,hadnever prophesied the Iran-Contra Affair which rendered Reagan quiteembarrassed and even make him face the risk of impeachment. Imagine howa society could progress provided that every member depends on thosenonmainstream pursuits for help.Thus,what we should believe is that thefate is simply controlled by ourselves.

To sum up,I concede that those nonmainstream pursuits that the speakerlists are likely to offer many people psychological solace.However,suchpursuits are not originated from correct logic and reason.Once theybecome a guidance to steer people’s lives and the fate of society,thepotential danger and harm are immeasurable.

[楼主的论据真让人艳羡,个人感觉这篇文章基本上由六分的样子了,赞一个!]

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发表于 2006-12-10 23:28:36 |只看该作者

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In those nonmainstream areas also containsuch kinds of terms that are mysterious to people..[没有主语阿]
我看见有这样的用法
另外上次你问beg question是什么意思,据christian说是循环论证,我还是不太明白何为循环论证,丢脸啊
请高人指点
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发表于 2006-12-11 21:59:20 |只看该作者
写得相当不错啊 我好好学习学习 争取能帮你再让他完美一点

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发表于 2006-12-11 22:25:08 |只看该作者
我在修锐编的《北美GRE范文精讲》里看到beg questions 的意思大概是回避了问题,也就是说没有搞清问题是什么顾左右而言他的意思,不知解释的是不是正确

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发表于 2006-12-11 22:35:28 |只看该作者
词组的定义是:To assume what has still to be proved.(认定尚未证实的事,想当然。)

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发表于 2006-12-12 00:01:24 |只看该作者

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那请问循环论证是否就是beg question的意思呢?

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发表于 2006-12-12 11:09:17 |只看该作者
In those nonmainstream areas also contain such kinds of terms that are mysterious to people. 貌似倒装句。

另外你的例子挺新鲜,收藏了

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发表于 2006-12-12 14:10:28 |只看该作者
循环论证?

这个我之前的理解是在Argument里面

找出问题的逻辑层次,从最关键的问题开始批驳,然后层层递减,后续问题都是承认前一个问题如果合理,那么什么什么还是不正确,因为什么什么,依次类推

issue里面也有循环论证的说法?我们当时新东方的老师没讲过呢

等看看别人的高见吧

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发表于 2006-12-12 14:16:58 |只看该作者
有人认为beg Q的意思就是 一个人回答不了你的问题 而说了一大堆话 那他就是BEG Q 到底什么是循环论证我也不知道 我找到的词组定义应该是没问题的 确实很难翻译 参考例句结合语境吧

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发表于 2006-12-12 23:22:54 |只看该作者
有什么问题,直接在帖下留言或者PM的时候说清楚是什么问题。不要重复报告帖子,每报告一次所有版主都会收到你的PM一次,而且没有说清楚是什么问题。谢谢
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原帖由 westlife007_hu 于 2006-12-12 00:01 发表
那请问循环论证是否就是beg question的意思呢?


对,把要证明的东西包含在前提里,如果前提成立,那么也就要接受结论。
说白点就是A证明B,B证明A.

人为什么要睡觉?因为人有睡觉的需要。
简单情况下这种论证说了就是没说,答案即是问题。
色不迷人人自迷。
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发表于 2006-12-13 18:23:59 |只看该作者
issue 41 Such nonmainstream areas of inquiry as astrology, fortune-telling, and psychic and paranormal pursuits play a vital role in society by satisfying human needs that are not addressed by mainstream science.

I fundermentally agree with the speaker that nonmainstream areas of inquiry as astrology and paranormal pursuits still play a vital role in society,for the two chief reasons that they satisfy the basic needs of humans and a great number of people consider them scientific.However,such inquiries are irrational and they are more likely to bring about serious harm to their participants and society.

Why are nonmainstream areas of inquiries so popular among people in modern times of highly-advanced technology. First of all,to some degree,they meet the psychological needs of human beings.In the society full with drastic competition and adventure(challenge是不是好一点),it is inevitable for a large portion of people to generate a sense of frustration and crisis.Under such situation,they instinctively need to seek an approach that enable them to release from anxiety and direct them a right path to success.Those nonmainstream areas such as astrology which tell people their future fate and how to proceed in life ,thereby naturally become the target they resort to.

Secondly,people are not able to distinguish the real science and those nonmainstream inquries in the light of their inherent nature of equivocality and mystery.With the rapid development of science,it is divided delicately into various branches of subjects each of which has its own technical terms that the majority of people can not understand or have never ever heard of. In those nonmainstream areas also contain such kinds of terms that are mysterious to people.Thus,it is easy for the masses to mistakenly consider, for example,astrology whose technical terms sound relative(similar更合适点吧) to astronomy as a scientific field.Furthermore,the government of some certain districts even encourage those who live on telling fortune and divining for others.For instance,in some states of the US,the government grants those astrologists business licenses and give official sanction to open astrology schools.The legitimacy of astrology precipitates the deeper trust of those nonmainstream areas of inquiries gained from the masses.

Nonetheless, actually those nonmainstream areas ,to a great extent ,are pseudoscience which are worthless to be believed in and admired.Take astrology as an example.According to the theory of astrology,one’s own destiny and character are determined by the date of its(是不是要用his or her) birth and the constellation. In the year of 1975,a physicist named John Mcgarvey carried out an experiment that he investigated 16634 scientists and 6475 politicians and their birthdays as well.However,the statistics  demonstrated that the dates of their birth did not converge on one certain constellation but distributed averagely all over of them.(弱问一句,偶没看明这个例子证明的是什么~) Another apt illustration of this point involves the instance of Voltaire。When he retrospected to the huge earthquake of Lisban which led to the deaths of fifteen thousands of people,he said(and I paraphrase),”all those victims had the same fate but the constellation of heir births were totally different.” The theories of westen astrology and those nonmainstream inquiries indeed do not refer merely to the constellation,they include complicated contents,yet the analysis of destiny and all that are irrational pseudoscience.

Therefore,due to the irrationality of those nonmainstream pursuits,we should only treat them as entertainment but not the guidance to tell us how to proceed in life,otherwise we will fall prey to the pseudoscience.Here is an example that is convincing.Ronald Reagan ,the previous president of the United States, over-rely on astrology for his every important decision and even the fate of this country were dominated by a female astrologist .This astrologist ,nevertheless ,had never prophesied the Iran-Contra Affair which rendered Reagan quite embarrassed and even make him face the risk of impeachment. Imagine how a society could progress provided that every member depends on those nonmainstream pursuits for help.Thus,what we should believe is that the fate is simply controlled by ourselves.

To sum up,I concede that those nonmainstream pursuits that the speaker lists are likely to offer many people psychological solace.However,such pursuits are not originated from correct logic and reason.Once they become a guidance to steer people’s lives and the fate of society,the potential danger and harm are immeasurable.

很不错的文章,几乎没有什么语法错误了,用词谴句也很棒,尤其是丰富的例证呵~
好强~~

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发表于 2006-12-18 19:45:59 |只看该作者
issue 41 Such nonmainstream areas of inquiry as astrology, fortune-telling, and psychic and paranormal pursuits play a vital role in society by satisfying human needs that are not addressed by mainstream science.

I fundermentally(单词错) agree with the speaker that nonmainstream areas of inquiry as astrology and paranormal pursuits still play a vital role in society,(标点符号后面空行)for the two chief reasons that they satisfy the basic needs of humans and a great number of people consider them scientific.However,such inquiries are irrational and they are more likely to bring about serious harm to their participants and society.(有点冗余,改写的不够好。)

Why are nonmainstream areas of inquiries so popular among people in modern times of highly-advanced technology.(问号) First of all,to some degree,they meet the psychological needs of human beings.In the society full with(of) drastic competition and adventure,it is inevitable for a large portion of people to generate a sense of frustration and crisis.Under such situation,they instinctively need to seek an approach that enable them to release from anxiety and direct them a right path to success.(这里少了一个句子。但是,当人们无法从普通方法来宽慰自己内心或者找到出路,…..)(To certain people,)Those nonmainstream areas such as astrology which (can)tell people their future fate and how to proceed in life ,thereby naturally become the target they resort to.

Secondly,people are not able to distinguish the real science and those nonmainstream inquries in the light of their inherent nature of equivocality and mystery.With the rapid development of science,it is divided delicately into various branches of subjects each of which has its own technical terms that the majority of people can not understand or have never ever heard of. In those nonmainstream areas also contain such kinds of terms that are mysterious to people.Thus,it is easy for the masses to mistakenly consider, for example,astrology whose technical terms sound relative to astronomy as a scientific field.Furthermore,the government of some certain districts even encourage those who live on telling fortune and divining for others.For instance,in some states of the US,the government grants those astrologists business licenses and give official sanction to open astrology schools.The legitimacy of astrology precipitates the deeper trust of those nonmainstream areas of inquiries gained from the masses.(个人认为,这一段有逻辑漏洞。是社会需要所以政府才支持,而不是因为政府支持,所以人们才可以接触到。虽然,可以说社会支持在一定程度上也推广了非主流需求)
这一段写得还是有点新意的。不过展开不够,光从术语上还不够。

Nonetheless, actually those nonmainstream areas ,to a great extent(extent似乎不可数,程度过大,你还没有论证。就已经做了很具体的结论了。) ,are pseudoscience which are worthless to be believed in and admired.Take astrology as an example(不成句,请看看具体是怎么用的。).According to the theory of astrology,one’s own destiny and character are determined by the date of its birth and the constellation. In the year of 1975,a physicist named John Mcgarvey carried out an experiment that he investigated 16634 scientists and 6475 politicians and their birthdays as well.However,the statistics  demonstrated that the dates of their birth did not converge on one certain constellation but distributed averagely all over of them.Another apt illustration of this point involves the instance of Voltaire。When he retrospected to the huge earthquake of Lisban which led to the deaths of fifteen thousands of people,he said(and I paraphrase),”all those victims had the same fate but the constellation of heir births were totally different.” The theories of westen astrology and those nonmainstream inquiries indeed do not refer merely to the constellation,they include complicated contents,yet the analysis of destiny and all that are irrational pseudoscience.(两个例子完全就是多余,充分论证了一个小小的观点。占星术是不对的,那么其他的?是不是它们就是合理的?你断了一指,没有断5指。这篇文章,北美范文写得不错,个人认为可以借鉴)

Therefore,due to the irrationality of those nonmainstream pursuits(你的前一段论据不能充分证明非理性。你两个例子都是一个意思),we should only treat them as entertainment but not the guidance to tell us how to proceed in life,otherwise we will fall prey to the pseudoscience.Here is an example that is convincing.Ronald Reagan ,the previous president of the United States, over-rely on astrology for his every important decision and even the fate of this country were dominated by a female astrologist .This astrologist ,nevertheless ,had never prophesied the Iran-Contra Affair which rendered Reagan quite embarrassed and even make him face the risk of impeachment. Imagine how a society could progress provided that every member depends on those nonmainstream pursuits for help.Thus,what we should believe is that the fate is simply controlled by ourselves.

To sum up,I concede that those nonmainstream pursuits that the speaker lists are likely to offer many people psychological solace.However,such pursuits are not originated from correct logic and reason.Once they become a guidance to steer people’s lives and the fate of society,the potential danger and harm are immeasurable.(结论的每个词度把握的不错,但是论述过程,和这里不够一致。这篇文章最好写得展开方式就是类似你的这个结尾。把握住了,但是展开控制得还不够。另一个方面段首和未不配合。一个是重A,一个是重B。应该都是重A或者重B。虽然似乎意思大概都是一样的,至少从语言上,是看得出来的。)

好处就不提了,的确是在写作方面有不错的造诣。

最大的缺点之一,只讨论占星术。文章可不是只提到了占星术。要想突破到高分,这样子是不够的。
你对语言的控制能力不够,虽然可以写出很不错的东西。但是还不能收发自如。

加油,你作文可以努力拿高分,如果时间充足。

还有,如果没限时的话。还不能代表你考场水平的

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谢谢斑竹的批改,收益非浅啊
我再好好研究一下,现在实在有些云里雾里了

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