Issue103 【7.20，好像有点跑，大家给拍拍吧】

gyyxUID: 2290150

At first glance of this issue, I have lost in the definition of the statement "relevant to our daily lives", which as my concerns, this ambiguous expression is the key point in discussing the value of history to life. Sine this, I will cite my point on this issue with the definition of relevant infra.

Borrowing some standard from other realm, I will fulfill the definition of relevant in three aspects，that is, time, space, culture.

For time's sake, if the definition of relevant to our daily lives is defined as to study the modern history of our world, we may lose opportunity on acquiring our history in a long time. Consider that, if we do not study the dynasty of our country, we may ask some absurd questions when we in America why Chinatowns have another name as Tangren Street, which answer is due to the prosperity the Tang Dynasty aroused and the influence to the world. The assumption tells us the definition of relevant based on modern history will make the study not valuable enough. So, as to be more cautious, I have to define relevant to our daily lives in modern and ancient history, in time aspect. Moreover, the ancient history gives to us not only the commonsense of our history, but also some treasure that even could be used in some realms today. We could refer to strategics on commerce competition as well as in modern military tactics.

As in space sake, if the definition is constrained in the city we lived, we may drop a trick when we travel to the other cities of this country, even worse, we may do not know this city belongs to our country, and why so many historic sites in it. And, if the definition is restricted in our country, troubles render when we travel or study aboard. As lack of history of other countries, we may hard to comprehend the culture of others even when we see the architect and the art work aboard; we may have obstaction when we communicate with foreigners, then may cause friction and even war aroused by this. And, from the space thoroughly we may understand some issue of today in our daily life, just as the reason of Iraq war, and why this area is so calamitous, when we listening to daily news in our lives.
On the culture side, why I abstract this as an individual aspect, is to emphasis the study of history based on culture, on human culture. For us, one of the members of the human beings, we have the obligation to understand the fundamental history of our culture. And to communicate better and improve our taste to art and literature, it is necessary to study history in the angle of culture. It has value to our daily lives, as life is a progress that searching for beauty, finding beauty, and appropriate beauty, on the basic knowledge of history, in all culture.

So, at last, as stating above, now with the help of the definition on relevant, we conclude that, as history is so relevant to our daily lives, in time, space, and culture, a study of history will benefit our daily lives filled with value.

星夜无夏UID: 2333978

原帖由 gyyx 于 2007-7-21 00:18 发表
At first glance of this issue, I have lost in the definition of the statement "relevant to our daily lives", which as my concerns, this ambiguous expression is the key point in discussi ...

At first glance of this issue, I have lost in（介词的准确运用往往很关键，成也萧何败也萧何） the definition of the statement "relevant to our daily lives", which as my concerns, this ambiguous expression is the key point in discussing the value of history to life. Sine this, I will cite my point on this issue with the definition of relevant infra.

这段开头，总体来说，有些过于的从主观角度出发了。你用了一个“I”，一个“AS MY”，一个“I WILL”，而总共才两句话。虽然ISSUE是可以天马行空的发挥personal opinions，这种表达也是有非常大的技巧性。例如你说“你不应该这样做”和说“你觉得换一种方式会不会好些？”是会得到两种完全不一样的结果。同样，就ISSUE来说，旨在传达你的minds，然而却要通过引导甚至说理启发的方式，让读者自己去判断而无须你多说任何。这才是高段位的辩证法:)


Borrowing some standard from other realm, I will fulfill the definition of relevant in three aspects，that is, time, space, culture.(这个句型好像是有些问题的，These are time, space and culture）

For time's sake, if the definition of relevant to our daily lives is defined as to study the modern history of our world, we may lose opportunity on acquiring our history in a long time. Consider that, if we do not study the dynasty of our country, we may ask some absurd questions when we in America why Chinatowns have another name as Tangren Street, which answer is due to the prosperity the Tang Dynasty aroused and the influence to the world. The assumption tells us the definition of relevant based on modern history will make the study not valuable enough. So, as to be more cautious（for being more cautious）, I have to define relevant to our daily lives in （both in）modern and ancient history, in time aspect. Moreover, the ancient history gives to us not only the commonsense of our history, but also some treasure that even could be used in some realms today（没有看得特别明白……）. We could refer to（这个短语常常用来表示“指向”或者“参照”，它前面通常用名词，然后说明这个名次。而不是加一个人称代词来表示它得动作。其实用learn或者imitate或者consider就可以很明白得表达了） strategics on commerce competition as well as in modern military tactics.（看到这时彻底蒙了。。）

这一段，那个“definition of relevant ”总是给我怪怪的感觉。我不知道是该理解成“相关的细节”，还是“相关的具体”？若是这样理解的话，其后再出现“definition of relevant”就可以用these difinitions代替，或者relevant definitions代替，因为实在是觉得of这种东东要让人脑子反转一遍总是有些拧的……


As in space sake, if the definition is constrained in the city we lived, we may drop a trick（be deceived好像还行。。drop a trick我不知道是不是可以用） when we travel （are travelling)to the other cities of this country, even worse, we may do not know (Why)this city belongs to（is belonging to) our country, and why (there were)so(such) many historic sites(不明所以，historical） in it. And, if the definition is restricted in our country, troubles render when we travel or study aboard. （缺成分了。It would be rendered the troubles when we are travelling outdoors or studying aboard)As lack of history of other countries, we may hard to comprehend the culture of others even when we see the architect and the art work aboard（architect是建筑，通常指的是楼房啊这种正常的东东，不是我们意识中的那种buildings。art work应该是the work of arts.arts表示艺术，是名词。）; we may have obstaction when we communicate with foreigners, then may cause friction and even war aroused by this（既然有了cause就不用解释发生是by谁了）. And, from the space thoroughly we may understand some issue of today in our daily life, just as the reason of Iraq war, and why this area is so calamitous, when we listening to daily news in our lives.类似这种例举，最好让形式统一起来，动名词组就都是动名词组，不定式就都是不定式。所要你要么就说just as why the Iraq wars would be happened, and why this area is too calamitous when we listening to the daily news。）

On the culture side, why I abstract this as an individual aspect, is to emphasis the study of history based on culture, on human culture. For us, one of the members of the human beings, we have the obligation to understand the fundamental history of our culture. And to communicate better and improve our taste to art and literature, it is necessary to study history in the angle of culture. It has value to our daily lives, as life is a progress that searching for beauty, finding beauty, and appropriate beauty, on the basic knowledge of history, in all culture.

So, at last, as stating above, now with the help of the definition on relevant, we conclude that, as history is so relevant to our daily lives, in time, space, and culture, a study of history will benefit our daily lives filled with value.

后两段我没有看。第二段的逻辑我也没有理。你自己参考以上的意见先修改一下吧。我提供我个人对这个题目的思路：
关键词：历史，研究，价值，日常生活，相关
核心：历史研究的价值
1 我们为什么要研究历史
2 历史给我们带来了什么
3 这些东西分别造成了哪些影响
4 这样影响包不包括日常生活相关，那包不包括别的呢？
5 结论

aranyaUID: 2128456

这篇文章我也写了, 我觉得超级难写, 因为提到了历史的作用. 这玩意教历史几十年的老头们都说不清, 历中天都打哈哈, 我们这种小辈怎么写.

我看了看你的文章, 我的语句也很垃圾, 就不给你改了, 我从逻辑上说说.

你想从历史研究上写, 并且讲了三个定位. 但我想这个题目是 "研究历史的价值只体现在这种研究和我们的日常生活相关时。" 也就是说主语是价值, 而不是研究方法.

你的这个文章可以改头换面一番, 第一段改成历史对现在有影响, 研究历史可以帮助我们更好的了解现在.举例:唐人街
第二段,很多历史问题现在也有, 从历史可以学习解决, 举例:你的兵役和商业竞争
第三断,历史帮助我们交流, 把你的第三段改改
第四段,除了现实生活,历史也精神啊culture啊上帮助我们, 继续把你的倒数第二段改改
看, 这样逻辑清晰了, 保证不会跑题:handshake


by要考试了写的郁闷的某人

huaxinluoboUID: 2326780

文章分层的方式有点与众不同，但也未必是坏事。你的思路是基本同意，但在开头两段应该提一下。另外，对Study的理解很重要，Issue 题目里出现过的Study 好像都是指研究的，所以如果当成学习去写得话，恐怕就有危险了。

H-KevinUID: 2182070

At first glance of this issue, I have lost in the definition of the statement "relevant to our daily lives", which as my concerns, this ambiguous expression is the key point in discussing the value of history to life. Sine this, I will cite my point on this issue with the definition of relevant infra.(第一段的信息量是不是太少了，感觉没有什么很实在的东西，只是解释了对原题目中的一个词的看法)

Borrowing some standard from other realm, I will fulfill the definition of relevant in three aspects，that is, time, space, culture.（是不是整合在第一段比较好，单独这一段看起来怪怪的，也没有独立成断的必要）

For time's sake, if the definition of relevant to our daily lives is defined as to study the modern history of our world（直接把日常生活和现代史联系在一起了，我觉得值得商榷）, we may lose opportunity on acquiring our history in a long time. Consider that, if we do not study the dynasty of our country, we may ask some absurd questions when we in America why Chinatowns have another name as Tangren Street, which answer is due to the prosperity the Tang Dynasty aroused and the influence to the world. The assumption tells us the definition of relevant based on modern history will make the study not valuable enough. So, as to be more cautious, I have to define relevant to our daily lives in modern and ancient history, in time aspect. Moreover, the ancient history gives to us not only the commonsense of our history, but also some treasure that even could be used in some realms today. We could refer to strategics on commerce competition as well as in modern military tactics.（这个部分想是文章的延伸，下面如果不延伸的话，比较想发散性思维的文章结构）

As in space sake, if the definition is constrained in the city we lived, we may drop a trick when we travel to the other cities of this country, even worse, we may do not know this city belongs to our country,（可能属于地理范畴？） and why so many historic sites in it（他的价值在哪哩？）. And, if the definition is restricted in our country, troubles render when we travel or study aboard. As lack of history of other countries, we may hard to comprehend the culture of others（这个点我觉地挺好地，可以拓展一下） even when we see the architect and the art work aboard; we may have obstaction when we communicate with foreigners, then may cause friction and even war aroused by this. And, from the space thoroughly we may understand some issue of today in our daily life, just as the reason of Iraq war, and why this area is so calamitous, when we listening to daily news in our lives.

On the culture side, why I abstract this as an individual aspect, is to emphasis the study of history based on culture, on human culture. For us, one of the members of the human beings, we have the obligation to understand the fundamental history of our culture. And to communicate better and improve our taste to art and literature, it is necessary to study history in the angle of culture. It has value to our daily lives, as life is a progress that searching for beauty, finding beauty, and appropriate beauty, on the basic knowledge of history, in all culture（beauty和history 的强联系没有看到）.

So, at last, as stating above, now with the help of the definition on relevant, we conclude that, as history is so relevant to our daily lives, in time, space, and culture, a study of history will benefit our daily lives filled with value（结尾部分感觉还是在给文章找错误，而不是顺延以上的文章的内容，第一段的复制）.

总体结构很清楚的
结构内部最好还是梳理一下，不是很清楚
开头结尾都一样的话好像不太好

加油，共勉！
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gyyxUID: 2290150

看来这篇的问题不少，等2天整理历史类的时候重新写一下吧