Polytechnic University 美国海军上将来Poly，NYU校长也来了。

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听说poly有和nyu合并的消息,不知是真是假，请问现在进行到什么程度了

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poly
的广告算事做足了
=我申请完  我来写写我所知道的poly IIT 之类的学校

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期待下个月最新的消息。

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请问材料寄全以后，是不是2周就可以知道结果？

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纽约科技大学(Polytechnic University),以前称工业大学,EE是最强的,工程是一流的.这次同纽约大学(NYU)合并,是纽约城市要加快发展高科技产业的战略选择,两校资源整合,优势互补,对两校的长远发展都有战略意义.

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正解，完全正确，这是政府的工程，要是两所兄弟院校的未来。

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我这样的托福成绩(口语太烂)申请poly的EE master要不要重考？如果不影响拿AD，会不会影响拿GA？

Reading 28
Listening 26
Speaking 15
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条形码、激光、雷达、微波炉、ATM取款机、传真机、盘尼西林、高分子聚合物、不沾锅的材料、变焦镜头、VCR、网络安全技术、城市安全技术、纳斯达克自动报价系统、生化物质探测手套、心脏起搏器和减颤器等众所周知的发明都出自Polyers

激光：

The first working laser was demonstrated in May 1960 by Theodore Maiman at Hughes Research Laboratories. Recently, lasers have become a multi-billion dollar industry. The most widespread use of lasers is in optical storage devices such as compact disc and DVD players, in which the laser (a few millimeters in size) scans the surface of the disc. Other common applications of lasers are bar code readers and laser pointers. In industry, lasers are used for cutting steel and other metals and for inscribing patterns (such as the letters on computer keyboards). Lasers are also commonly used in various fields in science, especially spectroscopy, typically because of their well-defined wavelength or short pulse duration in the case of pulsed lasers. Lasers are also used for military and medical applications.

盘尼西林的发明是欧洲的吧，不是出自你们学校的吧？
其他的我没有时间去查。
纽约的生活不会比麻省还便宜吧，我比较省了，一年在麻省还8，9K的。纽约7K的生活也太艰苦了吧？
哎，不诚实。。。。。
其实说实话，如果真的想自己出钱读书的话，美国的学校硕士还是很好申的。


The discovery of penicillin is usually attributed to Scottish scientist Sir Alexander Fleming in 1928, though others had earlier noted the antibacterial effects of Penicillium.

The development of penicillin for use as a medicine is attributed to the Australian Nobel Laureate Howard Walter Florey. In March 2000, doctors of the San Juan de Dios Hospital in San Jose (Costa Rica) published manuscripts belonging to the Costa Rican scientist and medical doctor Clodomiro (Clorito) Picado Twight (1887-1944). The manuscripts explained Picado's experiences between 1915 and 1927 about the inhibitory actions of the fungi of genera Penic. Apparently Clorito Picado had reported his discovery to the Paris Academy of Sciences in Paris, yet did not patent it, even though his investigation had started years before Fleming's.

Fleming, at his laboratory in St. Mary's Hospital (Imperial College) in London, noticed a halo of inhibition of bacterial growth around a contaminant blue-green mould Staphylococcus plate culture. Fleming concluded that the mould was releasing a substance that was inhibiting bacterial growth and lysing the bacteria. He grew a pure culture of the mould and discovered that it was a Penicillium mould, now known to be Penicillium notatum. Charles Thom, an American specialist working at the U.S. Department of Agriculture, was the acknowledged expert, and Fleming referred the matter to him. Fleming coined the term "penicillin" to describe the filtrate of a broth culture of the Penicillium mould. Even in these early stages, penicillin was found to be most effective against Gram-positive bacteria, and ineffective against Gram-negative organisms and fungi. He expressed initial optimism that penicillin would be a useful disinfectant, being highly potent with minimal toxicity compared to antiseptics of the day, but particularly noted its laboratory value in the isolation of "Bacillus influenzae" (now Haemophilus influenzae).[1] After further experiments, Fleming was convinced that penicillin could not last long enough in the human body to kill pathogenic bacteria and stopped studying penicillin after 1931, but restarted some clinical trials in 1934 and continued to try to get someone to purify it until 1940. .[2]

In 1939, Australian scientist Howard Florey, Baron Florey and a team of researchers (Ernst Boris Chain, A. D. Gardner, Norman Heatley, M. Jennings, J. Orr-Ewing and G. Sanders) at the Sir William Dunn School of Pathology, University of Oxford made significant progress in showing the in vivo bactericidal action of penicillin. Their attempts to treat humans failed due to insufficient volumes of penicillin (the first patient treated was Reserve Constable Albert Alexander), but they proved its harmlessness and effect on mice.[3]

A moldy cantaloupe in a Peoria market in 1941 was found to contain the best and highest quality penicillin after a world-wide search.[4]

Some of the pioneering trials of penicillin took place at the Radcliffe Infirmary in Oxford. On 1942-03-14 John Bumstead and Orvan Hess became the first in the world to successfully treat a patient using penicillin.[5][6]

[ 本帖最后由 疯狂坦克II 于 2007-12-15 17:05 编辑 ]

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原帖由 疯狂坦克II 于 2007-12-15 16:45 发表

激光：

The first working laser was demonstrated in May 1960 by Theodore Maiman at Hughes Research Laboratories. Recently, lasers have become a multi-billion dollar industry. The most wides ...

Almost every invention is due to many people’s work. It isnormal that those people claim it is their invention. This is not cheating. When a lady says: “This is my son”, you can’t say she is cheating. Right?

Please go to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Gould

You will see

Gordon Gould (July 17, 1920 — September16, 2005) was an Americanphysicist who is widely (but not universally) credited as the inventor of thelaser.
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In 1967, Gould leftTRG and joined the Polytechnic Institute of Brooklyn, now the Polytechnic University of New York,as a professor. While there, he proposed many new laser applications, andarranged government funding for laser research at the Institute.
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Almost every invention is due to many people’s work. It isnormal that those people claim it is their invention. This is not cheating. When a lady says: “This is my son”, you can’t say she is cheating. Right?

It isnormal that those people claim it is their invention.

呵呵，这个不normal吧。
也不能把一个集体的功劳都说到你一个人身上啊？
而且，这个关系很简单：
假定a属于set A, 也属于set A* , 如果set A*具有某种特征，你不能因为a在set A*就说set A也具有这种特征吧？
这样如果set A*发现了某个东西，就算a是set A*中的一员，同时a也是set A中的一员，你不能说这个东西是set A发现的吧？

就算一个东西是多个人发现的，这个也是一对多的关系啊。。。。
mother和the son的关系是一对一的。这两个问题怎么相关？都不是isomorphic的

简直就是蛊惑人心。。。。。GTer上这些孩子不少都很单纯的，也不能这样骗人吧。

真要说你们学校好，就应该那你们学校和别的学校客观的比比，分析分析，把你们自己的优势客观的说出来，也不至于像这样瞎说吧？

[ 本帖最后由 疯狂坦克II 于 2007-12-16 02:07 编辑 ]

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原帖由 Poly-Geng 于 2007-12-5 11:54 发表
正解，完全正确，这是政府的工程，要是两所兄弟院校的未来。

NYU是私立的，政府有权利去控制他和别的学校的合并吗？

美国学校的一个好处就是政府很多时候都管不了学校，学校的发展全在自己手中。

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原帖由 疯狂坦克II 于 2007-12-16 01:43 发表

呵呵，这个不normal吧。
也不能把一个集体的功劳都说到你一个人身上啊？
而且，这个关系很简单：
假定a属于set A, 也属于set A* , 如果set A*具有某种特征，你不能因为a在set A*就说set A也具有这种特征 ...

"mother和the son的关系是一对一的。"
No! What about his father?

According to your logic, the lady should always tellpeople this way: “This is my son. But, I have to tell you that it is not justmy contribution. His father,  doorman,  taxi driver, doctor, nurse .... all played veryimportant roll in it."

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I ask you to re-read the wiki article which you recommended me, please.

I will cite here.

By 1957, many scientists including Townes were looking for a way to achieve maser-like amplification of visible light. In November of that year, Gould realized that one could make an appropriate optical resonator by using two mirrors in the form of a Fabry-Pérot interferometer. Unlike previously-considered designs, this approach would produce a narrow, coherent, intense beam. Since the sides of the cavity did not need to be reflective, the gain medium could easily be optically pumped to achieve the necessary population inversion. Gould also considered pumping of the medium by atomic-level collisions, and anticipated many of the potential uses of such a device. Gould recorded his analysis and suggested applications in a laboratory notebook under the heading "Some rough calculations on the feasibility of a LASER: Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation"—the first recorded use of this acronym.[2] Arthur Schawlow and Charles Townes independently discovered the importance of the Fabry-Pérot cavity about three months later, and called the resulting proposed device an "optical maser". Gould's notebook was the first written prescription for making a viable laser and, realizing what he had in hand, he took it to a neighborhood store to have his work notarized.

Eager to achieve a patent on his invention, and believing incorrectly that he needed to build a working laser to do this, Gould left Columbia without completing his doctoral degree and joined a private research company, TRG (Technical Research Group). He convinced his new employer to support his research, and they obtained funding for the project from the Advanced Research Projects Agency, ironically with support from Charles Townes. Unfortunately for Gould, the government declared the project classified, which meant that a security clearance was required to work on it. Because of his former participation in communist activities, Gould was unable to obtain a clearance. He continued to work at TRG, but was unable to contribute directly to the project to realize his ideas. Due to technical difficulties and perhaps Gould's inability to participate, TRG was beaten in the race to build the first working laser by Theodore Maiman at Hughes Research Laboratories.


Patent battles
During this time, Gould and TRG began applying for patents on the technologies Gould had developed. The first pair of applications, filed together in April 1959, covered lasers based on Fabry-Pérot optical resonators, as well as optical pumping, pumping by collisions in a gas discharge (as in helium-neon lasers), optical amplifiers, Q-switching, optical heterodyning, the use of Brewster's angle windows for polarization control, and applications including manufacturing, triggering chemical reactions, measuring distance, communications, and lidar. Schawlow and Townes also applied for a patent on the laser, which was granted on 1960-03-22. Gould and TRG launched a legal challenge, based on the precedence established by his notarized notebook from 1957. While this challenge was being fought in the Patent Office and the courts, further applications were filed on specific laser technologies by Bell Labs, Hughes Research Laboratories, Westinghouse, and others. Gould ultimately lost the battle for the U.S. patent on the laser itself, primarily on the grounds that his notebook did not explicitly say that the sidewalls of the laser medium were to be transparent, even though he planned to optically pump the gain medium through them, and considered loss of light through the sidewalls by diffraction.[3] Questions were also raised about whether Gould's notebook provided sufficient information to allow a laser to be constructed, given that Gould's team at TRG was unable to do so. Gould was able to obtain patents on the laser in several other countries, however, and he continued fighting for U.S. patents on specific laser technologies for many years afterward.

In 1967, Gould left TRG and joined the Polytechnic Institute of Brooklyn, now the Polytechnic University of New York, as a professor. While there, he proposed many new laser applications, and arranged government funding for laser research at the Institute.

Gould's first laser patent was awarded in 1968, covering an obscure application—generating X-rays using a laser. The technology was of little value, but the patent contained all the disclosures of his original 1959 application, which had previously been secret. This allowed the patent office greater leeway to reject patent applications that conflicted with Gould's pending patents.[4] Meanwhile the patent hearings, court cases, and appeals on the most significant patent applications continued, with many other inventors attempting to claim precedence for various laser technologies.

By 1970, TRG had been bought by Control Data Corporation, which had little interest in lasers and was disposing of that part of the business. Gould was able to buy back his patent rights for a thousand dollars, plus a small fraction of any future profits.

In 1973, Gould left the Polytechnic Institute of Brooklyn to help found Optelecom, a company in Gaithersburg, Md. that makes fiberoptic communications equipment. He later left his successful company in 1985 because it was "boring."

I really don't think your school is much related to the invention of laser, as far as this wiki article says.  

Anyway, my point is not laser.
My point is I think this post is misleading.  

I have to admit I do not know how this New York Polytechnic is, but this exaggerated advertizing is very inappropriate and hides many real facts.  Here many students are in urgent need of information and you feed them some unreal and overly exaggerated illusion.  It's worse than none.

My advice for the students here is, if you apply to NY Polytechnic, please also at the same time apply to some other schools which you think are good.  Don't fear of the rejection.  If you don't wanna get a fellowship for your Master's program and can afford your tuition and living expenses in the united states, it's not difficult to be admitted into some top 50 or even top 20/30 schools.

In addition, I have to say the living expenses in NY with a normal living condition might be more expensive than $7K+/year.

[ 本帖最后由 疯狂坦克II 于 2007-12-16 09:48 编辑 ]

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这个帖子本来就有宣传性质的，我觉得这样的话不算cheating、误导之类
想想我们自己的PS、resume不也是用这种修辞手法的吗？
我想没有人傻到仅仅因为看了这个帖子就立马决定只申poly吧

我也申了poly，但不是因为看了这个帖子，而是因为poly的EE还不错，地理位置也好，学费不算高
对我这种背景不特别牛的人来说已经很满足了
而且对于牛校来说location无所谓，但对非牛校location就很重要了
毕竟我们选择自费EE master就是为了毕业后找工作吧