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发表于 2009-4-6 22:23:43 |显示全部楼层
119."When research priorities are being set for science, education, or any other area, the most important question to consider is: How many people's lives will be improved if the results are successful?"

The argument about how to decide the research priorities has last for many decades in our society that today we are still disputing on it. The speaker claims that how many people’s lives will be improved is the most important standard to which area priorities will give. However, I little agree with this claim. In my point of view, considering the combination the long term interests with short term needs of the human society is more important.

It is undisputed that the purposes of the researches conducted in our society are all aiming at improving our society and serve to human life ultimately. Research can be divided into two kinds, fundamental research and applied research. Applied research, is the application of knowledge one or more natural scientific fields to solving practical problems. Field of engineering are applied sciences. Applied research in these fields is important for technology development, which is used in industrial settings directly solve to the society. And fundamental research, or basic research, often be considered as the opposite to applied research carried out “for research’s’ sake”, and less important than applied research. However, the truth is that basic research is premise and element of applied research. For example, Environment Engineering, an interdiscipline, base on the chemistry and physics, with either chemistry or physics’ study development, it can not go any further.

As we know, research in some areas could not bring benefits to people’s lives in a vey short time. Nevertheless, they are required to continue necessarily. By taking account of the long term interests of human society, this is vey vital for the development of our society. For instance, Tibet Railway, the great feat in human history, had been constructed in China. Absolutely, it will bring the spring of economics and social stability in Tibet. As is concerned a lot that “frozen soil” is a difficult problem to solve in the process of this huge project. The solution of this problem is base on the subject geocryology which has taken more than 50 years almost half a generation researching in the laboratory. At the beginning of this research, it was hardly to predict the result’s success and the future worth. But there is only one which we can certainly confirm is that the development of our society needs it, and we were ready to commit our life to this devilish problem.

Furthermore, in our society, solving the urgent social problems is more significant than bringing how much comfort to how many the people. On one hand, many problems are threatening our society persistently. Considering energy crisis today, most natural resources are nonrenewable, lack of which the development of the modern society will be impeded, to discover new energy is the one of most urgent problems in our society we have to take a lot time and money to research for. On the other hand, many people wish to have an ageless life in modern society, is it to say we should give the priority to the research of medicine which can make people’s life ageless. The point is that without enough energy to support people’s life, whenever it is ageless, it will be a horrible dream.

In sum, for the development of human society, judge the priority of research, we should take account of the interests in the future and the needs in the recent period together or even take a balance between them.
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The argument about how to decide the research priorities has last for many decades in our society that today we are still disputing on it. The speaker claims that how many people’s lives will be improved is the most important standard to which area priorities will give. However, I little agree with this claim. In my point of view, considering the combination of  the long term interests with short term needs of the human society is more important.

It is undisputed that the purposes of the researches conducted in our society are all aiming at improving our society and serve to(improve) human life ultimately. Research can be divided into two kinds, fundamental research and applied research. Applied research, is the application of knowledge in one or more natural scientific fields to solving practical problems. Field of engineering are applied sciences. Applied research in these fields is important for technology development, which is used in industrial settings directly solve to(to promote)  the society. And fundamental research, or basic research, often be (is)considered as the opposite to applied research carried out “for research’s’ sake”(没看懂——实施是为了研究的原因?希望楼主解释下), and less important than applied research. However, the truth is that basic research is premise and element of applied research. For example, Environment Engineering, an interdiscipline, base on the chemistry and physics, with either chemistry or physics’ study development(without either of them) it can not go any further.

As we know, research in some areas could not bring benefits to people’s lives in a vey short time. Nevertheless, they are required to continue necessarily. By taking account of the long term interests of human society, this is vey vital for the development of our society. For instance, Tibet Railway, the great feat in human history, had been constructed in China. Absolutely, it will bring the spring of economics and social stability in Tibet. As is concerned a lot that “frozen soil” is a difficult problem to solve in the process of this huge project. (语法有问题)The solution of this problem is base on the subject  of geocryology which has taken(cost) more than 50 years, almost half a generation, researching in the laboratory. At the beginning of this research, it was hardly( difficult) to predict the result’s success and the future worth. But there is only one which we can certainly confirm is that the development of our society needs it, and we were ready to commit our life to this devilish problem.楼主这一段很混乱。你的思路应该是:一些在短期无法给人类带来利益的研究也有研究的价值。然后举Tibet Railway来说明。但是你在讲例子时,阐释得很不清楚,尤其是你的时间顺序问题,导致这一叙述的逻辑混乱。我大致的猜到,在修建铁路时我们遇见了冻土层的问题,而这个问题的解决是依赖低温地质学的研究——我们开展低温地址学研究时其实无法预期它是否会成功和未来的价值,但是我们肯定社会发展需要它。问题来了,楼主没有发现你的解释是个矛盾吗?既然开展低温地址学研究时也无法预期它是否会成功和未来的价值,你怎么判定我们社会需要它?你应该在你的主旨——远期和近期利益上,自圆其说,即研究时已估计了研究价值(扯到远期利益上,虽然也许没有明确的应用目标,但是为未来的确提供了xx的可能,楼主自己想象),最后在青藏铁路上得到了证实。
Furthermore, in our society, solving the urgent social problems is more significant than bringing how much comfort to how many the people. On one hand, many problems are threatening our society persistently. Considering energy crisis today, most natural resources are nonrenewable, lack of which the development of the modern society will be impeded,(.) to(To) discover new energy is the one of most urgent problems in our society we have to take a lot time and money to research for(solve). On the other hand, many people wish to have an ageless(永恒的生命?太夸张了吧。。。强烈要求换词) life in modern society, is it(It is) to say we should give the priority to the research of medicine which can make people’s life ageless. The point is that without enough energy to support people’s life, whenever it is ageless, it will be a horrible dream.

In sum, for the development of human society, judge (judging)the priority of research, we should take account of the interests in the future and the needs in the recent period together or even( and thus,这里不是递进关系) take a balance between them.


楼主,也许下面的话会严厉点,恩,保函下哈,偶也是为你好。
1.        敢问楼主有没有用word或自己先改一遍?语法错误还是蛮严重的。请注意分词的用法,还有动宾的搭配。老实说,我看得很痛苦。
2.        文章逻辑存在问题。我按楼主的结构分析下
1)        主旨——the combination of  the long term interests with short term needs of the human society is more important.
2)        问题从第二段开始。楼主提出有2种研究,应用型和理论型,虽然理论型看似没有应用型重要,但其实是basic research is premise and element of applied research。可是,楼主发现没,这一段你至始至终没有把这两种研究和你的主旨联系起来,即你没有指明这2种研究和长期近期利益的关系,至少我没有在你的论述中看到有任何明确的论述。
3)        第二个分论点:一些在短期无法给人类带来利益的研究也有研究的价值。这里分析略。看上。
4)        第三个分论点:solving the urgent social problems is more significant than bringing how much comfort to how many the people.那么,主要的论述应是urgent social problems与how much comfort to how many the people的矛盾,说明近期的xx问题比提高人民生活为什么更重要。觉得你后面那个many people wish to have an agelesslife in modern society,这个举例比较奇怪。而且居然最后演变成了资源短缺和人类永生之间的矛盾。
3.楼主的主旨是衡量近期和远期的利益作为最重要的问题。但是我觉得你欠缺一些道理论证,全部是举例,几乎没有详细的提供理。希望能加入一些道理论证。

由如果我理解有误,请楼主保函哈~~~~也请楼主狠狠的批偶的issue!

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Alex,我看了一下你的作文,正如winning说的分词用法要注意一下。
青藏铁路的例子,你是不是说“50年前开展低温地质学的研究时,我们还不知道有什么用,但如今修铁路时才体现了他的用途。”?

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Alex,我看了一下你的作文,正如winning说的分词用法要注意一下。
青藏铁路的例子,你是不是说“50年前开展低温地质学的研究时,我们还不知道有什么用,但如今修铁路时才体现了他的用途。”?

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文章开头非常精彩,不落俗套的提出自己的观点,非常好。
论述第一段的论述非常精彩,使用applied 和 basis research 的对比,并通过environment engineering 的例子,得出很好的观点背景。
第二段是文章的亮点,冻土的例子超级出色,很形象的对上文观点得出发展,basis research的研究的重要性和它能对人们的生活带来的影响一目了然,这个例子是本文中最出彩的地方,承上启下的作用恰到好处,这点上我完全不同意楼上的意见,这个例子应该和上文连起来看,非常的精彩啊^^只是承上很完美,启下做的很差(对不起了,下面要批评啦)应该很自然地引入第三段的升华观点,可是,非常遗憾
第三段是比较失败的,牵强附会的两个对比,一没有什么可比性,二这种比较无论从出发点还是结果看都没有科学依据。不能说能源问题不能造福人类,也不能用“不死”这种并不普遍的想法来例证,但是,最主要的原因是:
主题的丧失。个人认为,观点中最精彩的词非 combination 莫属,可精彩的两段铺垫后非常虎头蛇尾的第三段完全没有提到,看来这篇文章作者也是费劲脑汁写了很久,以至于最后不小心忘记了开头的中心句。个人觉得这个问题非常严重,貌似可以称之为跑题了~~不过结尾应该是没什么问题的,可最期待的 combination 只在结尾昙花一现,没有例证没有论述,不得不说比较遗憾~~
不过不得不说,开头和前两段写的着实精彩,非常不错^^
至于很多地方,我的基础很差,语法上觉得小有不妥,自己也不甚清楚,就没怎么改,还有同学 vey 应该是very 吧:p
非常非常欣赏你的观点和例证,有机会一定重写下第三段论述,以你精彩的例证,一定会超级漂亮的^^

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发表于 2009-4-13 01:21:41 |显示全部楼层
谢谢三位的建议哈 因为马上回来 马上改了再发
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发表于 2009-4-13 19:30:30 |显示全部楼层
2# winning1030
实施 是为了研究本身 for research’s’ sake这个是固定表达
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发表于 2009-4-13 21:20:33 |显示全部楼层
4# archaeology

意思是 开展这项研究的时候,很难估计它将来是否会成功以及到底有多少价值
主要为了说明一部分研究短时间内很难看到效益
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It is undisputed (*) that the purposes of the researches conducted in our society are all aiming at improving our society and serve to human life ultimately. Research can be divided into two kinds, fundamental research and applied research. Applied research, is the application of knowledge one or more natural scientific fields to solve practical problems. Fields of engineering are applied sciences. In these fields applied research is important for technological development, which is used in industrial settings directly solve to the society. (与主题句呼应) And fundamental research, or called basic research, often is considered as the opposite to applied research carried out “for research’s’ sake”, less important than applied research. However, truth is that basic research is the premise and element of applied research. For example, Environmental Engineering, an interdiscipline, bases on the chemistry and physics, without either chemistry or physics’ study development; it can not go any further. Henceboth of them play important (貌似是没有和主题句结合起来说,只是单一的说出了应用研究和基础研究的关系)

As we know, research in some areas could not bring benefits to people’s lives in a very short time. Nevertheless, they are still required to continue necessarily. By taking account of the long term interests of human society, this is vital for the development of our society. For instance, Tibet Railway, the (a) great feat in (of) human history, had been constructed in China. Absolutely, it will bring the spring of economics and social stability in (to) Tibet. As we concerned a lot that “frozen soil” is (was) really a difficult problem in the process of that huge project. The solution of this problem(The ultimate solution) is(was) base on (on the basis of) the subject geocryology(冻土学) which has taken(spent) more than 50 years almost half a generation researching in the laboratory. At the beginning of this research, it was hardly (difficult) to predict the result’s success and the future worth. But there is only one which we can certainly confirm is that the development of our society needs it, and we were ready to commit our life to this devilish problem.

Furthermore, in our society, solving the urgent social problems is more significant than bringing how much comfort to how many the people. On one hand, many problems are threatening our society persistently. Considering energy crisis today, most natural resources are nonrenewable, lack of which the development of the modern society will be impeded. To discover new energy is the one of most urgent problems in our society we have to take a lot time and money to research for. On the other hand, many people wish to have an ageless life in modern society; It is to say we should give the priority to the research of medicine which can make people’s life ageless. The point is that without enough energy to support people’s life, whenever it is ageless, it will be a horrible dream.

In sum, for the development of human society, judging the priority of research, we should take account of both the interests in the future and the needs in the recent period, taking a balance between them.
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