【kaleidoscope】小组第三次作业 ARGUMENT238 by 网兜妮妮

网兜妮妮UID: 2612538

TOPIC: ARGUMENT238 - The following appeared in a memorandum from the president of Mira Vista College to the college's board of trustees.

"At nearby Green Mountain College, which has more business courses and more job counselors than does Mira Vista College, 90 percent of last year's graduating seniors had job offers from prospective employers. But at Mira Vista College last year, only 70 percent of the seniors who informed the placement office that they would be seeking employment had found full-time jobs within three months after graduation, and only half of these graduates were employed in their major field of study. To help Mira Vista's graduates find employment, we must offer more courses in business and computer technology and hire additional job counselors to help students with their resumés and interviewing skills."


The author concludes that Mira Vista College (MVC) should offer more courses in business and computer technology as well as hire more job counselors to help students with resumes and other skills, in turn, to enhance the employment in their school. To support the conclusion, he cites the facts above: 1 last year's graduates are less employed in our school than Green Mountain College (GMC); 2 half of our graduates have their job in the major they study; 3 more business and computer technology courses are provided in GMC than MVC. With the above evidences, the arguer is well-designed, yet it is not well-supported for the logically flaws blow.

To begin with, there is no evidence to indicate how many graduates of GMC have jobs in their own major, also, the time they have found a job. Thus, it is unfairly to conclude GMC do better than MVC in graduate employment. In the arguer, I can only find the statistics of MVC, but lacking the evidences about GMC. Perhaps in GMC, there are less students find jobs in their major and spending a longer time to find a proper job. If so, GMC is not superior in helping their graduates in finding a job. Also, lacking more evidence about the feedback of companies, it is uncertain whether they are satisfied with the employees of GMC. Although the 90 percent seems higher than 70 percent, without more information about what kind of job GMC students got and how long they got the job, as well as the satisfaction rate from company, the evidence is not compelling.

Furthermore, even the above indicates the superior of GMC in helping their students to find job, there lacks evidence to relate the high employment rate with the courses of business and computer technology as well job consulters. The argument lacks information about the background of the two schools; maybe the total student number is different as GMC has more students so they need more job counselors, or they prone to science majors so they offered more business courses. Moreover, it is possible that GMC has more popular major than MVC, for example in math, computer, business and management which are easier to find a job; or because more students in MVC want to go on their study so they do not choose to find a job after graduate, instead, to apply to graduate schools. Without eliminate all other possibilities, the conclusion is not that convincing to me.

Finally, even if the above is due to a good employment in graduates, because of the different of the two schools, the policy would not that effective in MVC. May be the students in MVC want to have their own business instead of employed by others, or the reputation of MVC not match GMC so their graduates are not very welcomed. If so, even to increase of business course and technology lessons and employed more job consulters, it may not certainly result in a higher employment.

To sum up, the arguer comes to a conclusion that the employment of graduates in MVC are surely be increased by adding the certain course and more consulters, whereas the deduction is unwarranted. To strengthen the argue, the author should provide more information about the employment statistics and consider the difference between two schools to make a more effective means.

atticuswangUID: 2663189

The author concludes that Mira Vista College (MVC) should offer more courses in business and computer technology as well as hire more job counselors to help students with resumes and other skills, in turn, to enhance the employment in their school. To support the conclusion, he cites the facts above: 1 last year's graduates are less employed in our school than Green Mountain College (GMC); 2 half of our graduates have their job in the major they study; 3 more business and computer technology courses are provided in GMC than MVC. With the above evidences, the arguer is well-designed, yet it is not well-supported for the logically flaws blow.(开头好)

To begin with, there is no evidence to indicate how many graduates of GMC have jobs in their own major, also, the time they have found a job（how long have they spent finding a job）. Thus, it is unfairly to conclude GMC do better than MVC in graduate employment. In the arguer, I can only find the statistics of MVC, but lacking the evidences about GMC. Perhaps in GMC, there are less students find jobs in their major and spending a longer time to find a proper job. If so, GMC is not superior in helping their graduates in finding a job. Also, lacking more evidence about the feedback of companies, it is uncertain whether they are satisfied with the employees of GMC. Although the 90 percent seems higher than 70 percent, without more information about what kind of job GMC students got and how long they got the job, as well as the satisfaction rate from company, the evidence is not compelling.

Furthermore, even the above indicates the superior of GMC in helping their students to find job, there lacks evidence to relate the high employment rate with the courses of business and computer technology as well job consulters. The argument lacks information about the background of the two schools; maybe the total student number is different as GMC has more students so they need more job counselors, or they prone to science majors so they offered more business courses. Moreover, it is possible that GMC has more popular major than MVC, for example in math, computer, business and management which are easier to find a job（如果是这样，不就证明了确实是business 和computer课程有利于找工作吗？？）; or because more students in MVC want to go on their study so they do not choose to find a job after graduate, instead, to apply to graduate schools. Without eliminate all other possibilities, the conclusion is not that convincing to me.

Finally, even if the above is due to a good employment in graduates, because of the different of the two schools, the policy would not that effective in MVC. May be the students in MVC want to have their own business instead of employed by others, or the reputation of MVC not match GMC so their graduates are not very welcomed. If so, even to increase of business course and technology lessons and employed more job consulters, it may not certainly result in a higher employment.

To sum up, the arguer comes to a conclusion that the employment of graduates in MVC are surely be increased by adding the certain course and more consulters, whereas the deduction is unwarranted. To strengthen the argument, the author should provide more information about the employment statistics and consider the difference between two schools to make a more effective means（？？）