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wfzyUID: 2134400

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Argument38

The argument above asserts that eating a substantial amount of Ichthaid can help to prevent colds, thus absenteeism will be reduced too. To support his viewpoint, the arguer pointed out that people in nearby East Meria who eats a lot of fish seldom visit doctor for colds, and Ichthaid which is derived from fish oil can have the same effect as fish. The argument which seems to be logical at first glance, contains several facets that are questionable.

A threshold problem of the argument is that whether people in nearby East Meria get less cold is due to eating more fish. First, visiting docter less does not equal to getting cold less. We can not rule out the possibility that because of some reasons such as the lake of mediscen sense or doctors, those residents often do not go to hospital even if they get a cold. Furthermore, even if people in nearby East Meria are not so easy caught by colds, it does not follow that it is the habit of eating more fish prevent them from colds. The arguer fails to consider and rule out other reasons while might contribute to the effect: For example, the climate of nearby East Meria might be warm all year long, or people might do much more sports than other places.

Even if we accept that eating fish can help people to have less chance to get a cold, it does not necessarily mean that using Ichthaid can substitute of eating fish. There are no evident indicate that the most effective chemicals is in fish oil rather than meat, bone or even blood of fish. If so, eating the Ichthaid which is derived from fish oil might be useless for colds, but a waste of money.

The last but not the least is that, even garant that the Ichthaid do have some effect of avoid cold, however, whether mereling eating such a supplement can reduce the absenteetism or not is open to doubt. As we all kown, those responsible people will still go for work and study, even if they are ill, while lazy people often find various execurise for their absenteeism, and to say they have a cold is one of the most common ones. Therefore, even the supplement, as the arguer asserted, could prevent people from cold, can do nothing to cure people’s indolence and irresponsibility.

In conclusion, based on an unsubstantial assumption and a hast generation, the argument has too many flaws to be persuadable.To make his suggestion more convincing, the arguer should provide more evidences which could have to prove the Ichthaid could help to avoid colds. Additionally, he should make a study to make it clear that it is colds rather than other reason cause the most of absenteeism.

[ 本帖最后由 wfzy 于 2006-2-27 16:49 编辑 ]

fishyaoUID: 2119100

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Argument38

The argument above asserts that eating a substantial amount of Ichthaid can help to prevent colds, thus absenteeism will be reduced too too? 有些奇怪，去掉可以么？. To support his viewpoint, the arguer pointed out that people in nearby East Meria who eats a lot of fish seldom visit doctor for colds, and Ichthaid which is derived from fish oil can have the same effect as fish. The argument which seems to be logical at first glance contains several facets that are questionable. 罗列式的开头真的好么？看你特别喜欢用这样的开头，我们有空再讨论

A threshold problem of the argument is that whether people in nearby East Meria get less cold is due to eating more fish. First First of all or Firstly会好些, visiting docter less does not equal to getting cold less. We can not rule out the alternative 我特别喜欢的词，呵呵 possibility that because of someother reasons such as the lakelack of mediscen sense or doctors, those residents often do not go to hospital even if they get a cold. Furthermore, even if even though people in nearby East Meria are not so easy so easily to catch cold caught by colds, it does not follow that it is the habit of eating more fish that 强调句好像一定要加的吧 prevent them from colds. The arguer fails to consider and rule out other reasons while might contribute to the effect: For example, the climate of nearby East Meria might be warm all year long, or people might do much more sports than the ones in other places 注意前后比较的成分啊，这是常犯的错误other places.

Even if we accept that eating fish can help people to have less chance to get a cold, it does not necessarily mean that using Ichthaid can substitute of eating fish. There are no evident indicate that the most effective chemicals is in fish oil rather than meat, bone or even blood of fish. If so, eating the Ichthaid which is derived from fish oil might be useless for colds, but a waste of money 这里用not……but的结构会不会好点？ .

The last but not the least is that, even garant that the Ichthaid do have some effect of avoid cold, however, whether mereling eating such a supplement can reduce the absenteetism or not is open to doubt. As we all kown, those responsible people will still go for work and study, even if they are ill, while lazy people often find various execurise for their absenteeism, and to say they have a cold is one of the most common ones one. Therefore, even the supplement, as the arguer asserted, could prevent people from cold, it can 缺主语了你这里can do nothing to cure people’s indolence and irresponsibility.

In conclusion, based on an unsubstantial assumption and a hast hasty generation, the argument has too many flaws to be persuadable. To make his suggestion more convincing, the arguer should provide more evidences which could have to prove the Ichthaid could help to avoid colds. Additionally, he should make a study to make it clear that it is colds rather than other reason cause the most of absenteeism.
我和你批驳的逻辑顺序不同，你能给我讲讲这样批驳的原因么？限时以后文章的质量是会有挺大下降的，所以要坚持哦。限时写出的水平才是真水平阿

wfzyUID: 2134400

小拍一下

15:10-16:09 第一次限时失败！
Argument38

The argument above asserts that eating a substantial amount of Ichthaid can help to prevent colds, thus absenteeism will be reduced too too? 有些奇怪，去掉可以么？. To support his viewpoint, the arguer pointed out that people in nearby East Meria who eats a lot of fish seldom visit doctor for colds, and Ichthaid which is derived from fish oil can have the same effect as fish. The argument which seems to be logical at first glance contains several facets that are questionable. 罗列式的开头真的好么？看你特别喜欢用这样的开头，我们有空再讨论

我知道不好，但一紧张就写点开开篇了。:L

wfzyUID: 2134400

The last but not the least is that, even garant that the Ichthaid do have some effect of avoid cold, however, whether mereling eating such a supplement can reduce the absenteetism or not is open to doubt. As we all kown, those responsible people will still go for work and study, even if they are ill, while lazy people often find various execurise for their absenteeism, and to say they have a cold is one of the most common ones one. Therefore, even the supplement, as the arguer asserted, could prevent people from cold, it can 缺主语了你这里can do nothing to cure people’s indolence and irresponsibility.

我觉的应该是 one of the most ones , 最。。。的之一

as the arguer...could prevent people from cold 是插入语，supplement是主语

fishyaoUID: 2119100

前面那个one是我改错了啦:$
不过后面的插入语可以这样用么？我也不确定，总感觉是一个主语跟了两个句子的感觉:O

wfzyUID: 2134400

理理该A的思路是

居民吃鱼多＋少看病——吃鱼反感冒＋那种物质从鱼油中来——该物质防感冒＋许多人以感冒为借口不上课——给他们吃该物质，可防止旷课

我觉的我的思路是

吃鱼不一定能防感冒——即使防，鱼油提取物也未必能——能防感冒，也不能防旷课

当然你那种先批主要矛盾的做法也未尝不可。只要找出毛病就行了，这是我的一个考了5分的舍友说的，关键是挑出错误，自圆其说。

wfzyUID: 2134400

好像，关于插入语还是你对了，因为as the arguer asserted 是，后面就不是了，谢谢！:L

fishyaoUID: 2119100

恩，你这个批驳思路也挺好的。只要有逻辑顺序就行，arg眉毛胡子一把抓就不好写了。

RamUID: 2181763

RamUID: 2181763

能不能请两位也有空帮忙看看我一篇同主题的，先谢谢了！
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