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提纲：
在没有调查汽车租赁领域的具体情况，作者就武断地提出要将公司业务转移到汽车租赁。
1．过去五年的数据不能说明汽车租赁比汽车销售更有市场。这种良好的发展态势不一定能在今年以及将来保持下去。可能过去几年经济不景气，人们暂时没有那么多钱买车，而租车相对来便宜点他们不得已才去租车使用，而今年经济情况好转，这些人们就可能倾向于买车，这样买车的人数就上升，而租车的人数又会相对减少。

2．其次，即使我们认同了租赁市场的良好发展态势，那么是不是大多数drivers会驾驶租来的汽车吗？首先，有可能大多数人原本自己有车的人数已经很多了，才使得买车人不多，而租车人数再怎么比买车人多也不过是一个很小的数字，在drivers中只占有很好的一部分。

3．即使租赁市场真的比销售市场更火爆，作者能保证租赁能带来和销售一样的利润吗？出租一辆车的利润能高于卖出一辆车的利润吗？可能当前租赁市场的火爆同时存在着更为激烈的价格竞争，which可能使得出租一辆车50次的利润还不如卖出一辆车所得的利润。这样的话，公司为何要转换当前的业务到一个不怎么赚钱的业务呢。


The argument is not cogent because it is hasty to suggest that the company should switch its business from selling cars to leasing cars before careful investigation in car leasing business. Without considering several other possible alternatives, the manager assumes that car leasing will be more prosper and profitable than car selling, which is actually presumptuous.

The data from the last five years is insufficient for us to conclude that the number of people leasing cars is continuously increasing or going to still surpass the number purchasing cars. It is entirely possible that people were inclined to leasing rather than buying a new car in the last few years due to the depressed economy in Mohilia because buying a new car costs more than leasing a new one. But this year the economy in Mohilia turns prosper or the price of new cars decreases, and then those who usually lease cars before begin to buy new cars now. If this is the case, the number of people buying new cars will rise while the number leasing cars drops on the contrary.

In addition, even if we concede that car leasing continues to be more popular than car selling, is it sure that most of the drivers will drive leasde car? Although the manager asserts so, he/she apparently does not take into account the number of those who have owned their own cars. It is very likely that 80 per cent of people in Mohilia have their individually owned cars. So no matter how much the number leasing cars surpassed those buying cars, the number of people driving leased cars can not overcome the number driving individually owned cars.

Finally we have no reason to believe that car leasing will bring more profit than car selling does. The prosperity in car leasing might attract more businessmen/women into this field so that price competition becomes tougher than before. Common senses tell us that price competition will lead to a low price. Then, it will follow that leasing dozens of new cars does not bring the same profit to the company as selling one car does. Thus even if the number of people leasing cars continues to ascend this year, the profit it brings might be much less than that of selling small number of new cars. Therefore, it is ridiculous for the company to change its profitable car selling business to a less profitable one.

On balance, the suggestion presented in the argument is not persuasive as it stands for the reason that the manager fails to convince us the increasing trend of car leasing business and there will be more promising profit in car leasing than in car selling.

用了40分钟写好的，大家帮看看吧

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Argument73 同主题，必回拍

提纲：
在没有调查汽车租赁领域的具体情况，作者就武断地提出要将公司业务转移到汽车租赁。
1．过去五年的数据不能说明汽车租赁比汽车销售更有市场。这种良好的发展态势不一定能在今年以及将来保持下去。可能过去几年经济不景气，人们暂时没有那么多钱买车，而租车相对来便宜点他们不得已才去租车使用，而今年经济情况好转，这些人们就可能倾向于买车，这样买车的人数就上升，而租车的人数又会相对减少。

2．其次，即使我们认同了租赁市场的良好发展态势，那么是不是大多数drivers会驾驶租来的汽车吗？首先，有可能大多数人原本自己有车的人数已经很多了，才使得买车人不多，而租车人数再怎么比买车人多也不过是一个很小的数字，在drivers中只占有很好的一部分。

3．即使租赁市场真的比销售市场更火爆，作者能保证租赁能带来和销售一样的利润吗？出租一辆车的利润能高于卖出一辆车的利润吗？可能当前租赁市场的火爆同时存在着更为激烈的价格竞争，which（^-^）可能使得出租一辆车50次的利润还不如卖出一辆车所得的利润。这样的话，公司为何要转换当前的业务到一个不怎么赚钱的业务呢。
恩，提纲思路非常清楚！赞一个。看了你的提纲我发现我犯了一个极其严重的问题就是我论述了半天为什么作者会推断如果第六年持续增长会使得大多数人是租车的，其实这完全没必要，我直接批这个推断就行了何必管它是怎么得出来的—相比较你的第二点就好多了

The argument is not cogent because it is hasty to suggest that the company should switch its business from selling cars to leasing cars before careful investigation in car leasing business. 恩，这个开头真是不错，我通常在结尾才提有关further investigation之类需要的东西，学习ingWithout considering several other possible alternatives, the manager assumes that car leasing will be more prosper and profitable than car selling, which is actually presumptuous.开头很棒，极力赞一个！！

来个First之类会不会更好一点？The data这个表述似乎有点问题，事实上文章中好像并没有提到前五年的具体数据，只是说租车的比买车车的多，这可以算作一个evidence，但是却没有data from the last five years is insufficient for us to conclude that the number of people leasing cars is continuously increasing or going to still surpass the number 加上of peoplepurchasing cars. It is entirely possible that people were inclined to应该是be inclined to do sth leasing rather than buying a new car in the last few years due to the depressed economy in Mohilia because buying a new car costs more than leasing a new one. depressed economy可能会造成买车市场和租车市场都不景气，而且即使经济不萧条，买车比租车贵仍然可能成为租车多于买车的原因，可以像我那样论述---有些租车的人实际在攒钱买车 But this year the economy in Mohilia turns prosper or the price of new cars decreases, and then those who usually lease cars before 加willbegin to buy new cars now. If this is the caseIn that case会不会更好一些？, the number of people buying new cars will rise while the number leasing cars drops on the contrary用的好！很恰当.

In addition, even if we concede that car leasing continues to be more popular than car selling, is it sure that most of the drivers will drive leasde car? 出现问句的形式很好，使句式变得活泼，学习ingAlthough the manager asserts so, he/she apparently does not take into account the number of those who have owned their own cars. It is very likely that 80 per cent我觉得这么说更严密：a majority, maybe 80 percent of people in Mohilia have their individually owned用individual就好 cars. So no matter how much the number 加上of people leasing cars surpassed the numberthose buying cars, the total number of people driving leased cars can not overcome这是克服的意思，用exceed the number of people driving individually owned cars.最后两个句子总是出现the number of people有些重复，需要改一改

Finally we have no reason to believe that car leasing will bring more profit than car selling does. The prosperity in car leasing might attract more businessmen/women into this field so that price competition becomes tougher than before. Common senses tell us that price competition will lead to a low price.这中间缺了一个环节，应该是竞争更加激励，有可能会引发价格战，然后才导致低价 Then, it will follow that即使没有价格战也可能租车远远比买车便宜 leasing dozens of new cars does not bring the same profit to the company as selling one car does. 这个句子好像有点不太地道，改改看Thus even if the number of people leasing cars continues to ascend this year, the profit it brings might be much less than that of selling small number of 去掉，直接说卖车就行new cars. Therefore改成In that case, 或者 if it is true，之类，因为在这个前提下结论才不成立，不是理所当然的therefore, it is ridiculous for the company to change its profitable car selling business to a less profitable one.这段提到了租车和卖车两者的profit很好，但是忽略了很重要的一点，就是不管是否有价格战都有可能单个车卖比租的利润大很多，可以加进去。竞争这一点我每想到，学习Ing

On balance收藏之~, the suggestion presented in the argument is not persuasive as it stands for the reason that the manager fails to convince us the increasing trend of car leasing business and there will be more promising profit in car leasing than in car selling.这句也是fails to convince us的内容吗？感觉像是独立的句子，那意思就完全相反了

逻辑基本清楚，但句子还要加强噢；有的时候一辆句表述不清楚的逻辑，就多用些句子，会增强说服力，挑了好多小毛病-最近老喜欢跳毛病，汗…表怪啊！A za！！

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又改完一篇~~呼呼~庆祝~~

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谢谢小别啦，辛苦了

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小别改的好认真啊。恩。我占位。悠悠，抱歉我头好晕。可能只好明天看了。

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提纲：
在没有调查汽车租赁领域的具体情况，作者就武断地提出要将公司业务转移到汽车租赁。
1．过去五年的数据不能说明汽车租赁比汽车销售更有市场。这种良好的发展态势不一定能在今年以及将来保持下去。可能过去几年经济不景气，人们暂时没有那么多钱买车，而租车相对来便宜点他们不得已才去租车使用，而今年经济情况好转，这些人们就可能倾向于买车，这样买车的人数就上升，而租车的人数又会相对减少。个人认为不应把过去推将来放在驳斥的首位

2．其次，即使我们认同了租赁市场的良好发展态势，那么是不是大多数drivers会驾驶租来的汽车吗？首先，有可能大多数人原本自己有车的人数已经很多了，才使得买车人不多，而租车人数再怎么比买车人多也不过是一个很小的数字，在drivers中只占有很好的一部分。认同租赁市场的良好态势本身就是为作者的文章添油加醋

3．即使租赁市场真的比销售市场更火爆，作者能保证租赁能带来和销售一样的利润吗？出租一辆车的利润能高于卖出一辆车的利润吗？可能当前租赁市场的火爆同时存在着更为激烈的价格竞争，which可能使得出租一辆车50次的利润还不如卖出一辆车所得的利润。这样的话，公司为何要转换当前的业务到一个不怎么赚钱的业务呢。这点我无可非议


The argument is not cogent because it is hasty to suggest that the company should switch its business from selling cars to leasing cars before careful investigation in car leasing business. Without considering several other possible alternatives, the manager assumes that car leasing will be more prosper and profitable than car selling, which is actually presumptuous.开头很好，学习ing

The data from the last five years is insufficient for us to conclude that the number of people leasing cars is continuously increasing or going to still感觉这里有些别扭 surpass the number purchasing cars. It is entirely possible that people were inclined to leasing rather than buying a new car in the last few years due to the depressed economy in Mohilia because buying a new car costs more than leasing a new one. But this year the economy in Mohilia turns prosper or the price of new cars decreases, and then those who usually lease cars before begin to buy new cars now. If this is the case, the number of people buying new cars will rise while the number leasing cars drops on the contrary.这是我目前见过的一个过去推将来的最好的版本

In addition, even if we concede that car leasing continues to be more popular than car selling, is it sure that most of the drivers will drive leasde car? Although the manager asserts so, he/she apparently does not take into account the number of those who have owned their own cars. It is very likely that 80 per cent of people in Mohilia have their individually owned cars.这很明显和你TS的假设相违背 So no matter how much the number leasing cars surpassed those buying cars, the number of people driving leased cars can not overcome the number driving individually owned cars.我不知道为什么你们认为租车的人和drivers截然不同，还有，为什么都说假设市场更好或更流行，然后反驳说drivers 不一定会去开，那租来干吗？关于这个论点我刚刚看了小小的和你的差不多，分析半天不理解，请教

Finally we have no reason to believe that car leasing will bring more profit than car selling does. The prosperity in car leasing might attract more businessmen/women into this field so that price competition？ becomes tougher than before. Common senses tell us that price competition will lead to a low price. 前面没有必要说太多Then, it will follow that leasing dozens of new cars does not bring the same profit to the company as selling one car does. Thus even if the number of people leasing cars continues to ascend this year, the profit it brings might be much less than that of selling small number of new cars. Therefore, it is ridiculous for the company to change its profitable car selling business to a less profitable one.感觉租车或买车是一回事，租车市场为了利润的竞争是另回事

On balance, the suggestion presented in the argument is not persuasive as it stands for the reason that the manager fails to convince us the increasing trend of car leasing business and there will be more promising profit in car leasing than in car selling.结尾很好，我收藏了^_^

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原帖由 jingjingtous 于 2006-2-11 00:12 发表
1．过去五年的数据不能说明汽车租赁比汽车销售更有市场。这种良好的发展态势不一定能在今年以及将来保持下去。可能过去几年经济不景气，人们暂时没有那么多钱买车，而租车相对来便宜点他们不得已才去租车使用，而今年经济情况好转，这些人们就可能倾向于买车，这样买车的人数就上升，而租车的人数又会相对减少。个人认为不应把过去推将来放在驳斥的首位

这个请教jingjing了，过去推将来应该放在哪儿呢，我是想先攻击过去推将来不成立，然后来个让步即使承认其成立，租赁市场火爆也不能带来更好的利润，因为要考虑到其他各方面的因素

原帖由 jingjingtous 于 2006-2-11 00:12 发表
我不知道为什么你们认为租车的人和drivers截然不同，还有，为什么都说假设市场更好或更流行，然后反驳说drivers 不一定会去开，那租来干吗？关于这个论点我刚刚看了小小的和你的差不多，分析半天不理解，请教

这个我是针对作者的推论it is likely that the majority of drivers will be driving leased, not individually owned, cars.来攻击的 [说实话我不是很理解作者这么说的意图]

我想这么分析的：租新车的人即使很多，可是拥有自己车开自己车的人数基数就很大，因此即使增量少一点，但是总的开自己车的人还是比租车的人多:L，不知道这么有没有说明白了

原帖由 jingjingtous 于 2006-2-11 00:12 发表
price competition？

我想说价格竞争，这个不对？:(

谢谢jingjing弟弟的修改;P

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原帖由 果小冻 于 2006-2-10 23:43 发表
小别改的好认真啊。恩。我占位。悠悠，抱歉我头好晕。可能只好明天看了。

快考试了，小小要注意身体哟，适当补补:)

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Argument73 同主题，必回拍

提纲：
在没有调查汽车租赁领域的具体情况，作者就武断地提出要将公司业务转移到汽车租赁。
1．过去五年的数据不能说明汽车租赁比汽车销售更有市场。这种良好的发展态势不一定能在今年以及将来保持下去。可能过去几年经济不景气，人们暂时没有那么多钱买车，而租车相对来便宜点他们不得已才去租车使用，而今年经济情况好转，这些人们就可能倾向于买车，这样买车的人数就上升，而租车的人数又会相对减少。[这个角度新颖的说]

2．其次，即使我们认同了租赁市场的良好发展态势，那么是不是大多数drivers会驾驶租来的汽车吗？首先，有可能大多数人原本自己有车的人数已经很多了，才使得买车人不多，而租车人数再怎么比买车人多也不过是一个很小的数字，在drivers中只占有很好的一部分。[这个貌似有些牵强]

3．即使租赁市场真的比销售市场更火爆，作者能保证租赁能带来和销售一样的利润吗？出租一辆车的利润能高于卖出一辆车的利润吗？可能当前租赁市场的火爆同时存在着更为激烈的价格竞争，which可能使得出租一辆车50次的利润还不如卖出一辆车所得的利润。这样的话，公司为何要转换当前的业务到一个不怎么赚钱的业务呢。


The argument is not cogent because it is hasty to suggest that the company should switch its business from selling cars to leasing cars before careful investigation in car leasing business. Without considering several other possible alternatives, the manager assumes that car leasing will be more prosper and profitable than car selling, which is actually presumptuous.[开头不错。恩简明的提出了观点]

The data from the last five years is insufficient for us to conclude that the number of people leasing cars is continuously increasing or going to still surpass the number purchasing cars. It is entirely possible that people were inclined to leasing rather than buying a new car in the last few years due to the depressed economy in Mohilia because buying a new car costs more than leasing a new one. But this year the economy in Mohilia turns prosper or the price of new cars decreases, and then those who usually lease cars before begin to buy new cars now. If this is the case, the number of people buying new cars will rise while the number leasing cars drops on the contrary.[这个段落的角度很新颖，但是你貌似是建立在承认文里的那个其实不可靠的论据上的 ，也就是说在前五年租车比买车更受欢迎。。这个似乎有点。。。]

In addition, even if we concede that car leasing continues to be more popular than car selling, is it sure that most of the drivers will drive leasde car?[说实话这个论点奇怪的说。似乎和你的整个文章的中心有点偏了，你在讨论是否应该转向租车业，那怎么就可以断然的承认租车业的确更加好呢？] Although the manager asserts so, he/she apparently does not take into account the number of those who have owned their own cars. It is very likely that 80 per cent of people in Mohilia have their individually owned cars. So no matter how much the number leasing cars surpassed those buying cars, the number of people driving leased cars can not overcome the number driving individually owned cars.

Finally we have no reason to believe that car leasing will bring more profit than car selling does. The prosperity in car leasing might attract more businessmen/women into this field so that price competition becomes tougher than before. Common senses[这个词最好不用的说] tell us that price competition will lead to a low price.[前面两个句子有点跳跃，逻辑不是很紧密] Then, it will follow that leasing dozens of new cars does not bring the same profit to the company as selling one car does. Thus even if the number of people leasing cars continues to ascend this year, the profit it brings might be much less than that of selling small number of new cars. Therefore, it is ridiculous for the company to change its profitable car selling business to a less profitable one.[这个段落的逻辑层次不是很清晰]

On balance, the suggestion presented in the argument is not persuasive as it stands for the reason that the manager fails to convince us the increasing trend of car leasing business and there will be more promising profit in car leasing than in car selling.

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悠悠抱抱。。我很紧张。。汗。