Issue169 0710G同期主题写作第二期 请指教!!

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169."Those who treat politics and morality as though they were separate realms fail to understand either the one or the other." 169． 任何认为政治和道德是两码事的人是既不懂政治又不懂道德的

The speaker claims that those people who think politics have no relationship with morality fail to comprehend either the one or the other. I totally agree with the speaker in that nowadays politics have their moral basis.

To begin with, when it comes to morality, there exist two different kinds: one is private morality of personal life, and the other is public morality of politics. Individual could sacrifice his/her life to another individual or the nation and individual also could give somebody benefit without limitation, while politician on behalf of group cannot do this since they cannot sacrifice own group's interest to satisfy other group. For private morality, it can be exalted to a significant high place, while for public morality, it has to deal with and guarantee the most fundamental basic moral requirement. For example, nowadays, in modern society, people are searching for the most significant and fundamental moral principle, such as justice, equality, freedom and humanism, which can be the moral bottom line of equality and the common sense. After all, politic relates to the fundamental and enduring interests of the majority people, or even the basic living condition of people. Also for instance, when it comes to war, politician must to make a rapid decision whose choices are limited. It is often to select the less worse part of all the thing, such as taking the minority interest for victim or violating some of moral principle for saving numerous people's lives.

Nevertheless, in the short term amoral or immoral public behavior might serve a political leader’s interest in preserving power. The politician who just uses morality as his political status fails to success in his political life since politics sometimes are violent. Take Peloponnesian War in the Melian dialogue for example; it is a classic example of the clash of morality and politics about international relations. In the Peloponnesian war, Athenian alliance is refused by the Milos with the consideration of morality of benevolent neutrality. And it is just this benevolent neutrality led to the perdition, and thus, sometimes politician must use short term amoral or immoral public behavior for political power, eventually for the nation.

Finally, from the discussion above, a rationalpolitician should take into two aspects of consideration. One must sometimes oralways choose between prudence and morality in politics. The politician wantsto take into account of his political group’s interest; also he must considerthe interest of the country, continent and the human world. Throughout thepolitician’s life, it not only needs rhetoric to run for the political status,but also people’s fundamental human moral norms for the long term.  Take Bill Clinton for example, although sexualscandal happened with him, he still is recognized a successful president forhis economic policy in his presidency.  

In conclusion, politic has its moral bottom line and politician cannot success just rely on morality.

思维有点混乱，先交，给点意见，我再修改。
修改中……

[ 本帖最后由 yylll 于 2007-8-2 13:55 编辑 ]

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169."Those who treat politics and morality as though they were separate realms fail to understand either the one or the other." 169． 任何认为政治和道德是两码事的人是既不懂政治又不懂道德的

The speaker claims that those people who think politics have no relationship with morality fail to comprehend either the one or the other. I totally agree with the speaker in that nowadays politics have their moral basis.

To begin with, when it comes to morality, there exist two different kinds: one is private morality of personal life, and the other is public morality of politics. Individual could sacrifice his/her life to another individual or the nation and individual also could give somebody benefit without limitation, while politician on behalf of group cannot do this since they cannot sacrifice own group's interest to satisfy other group. For private morality, it can be exalted to a significant high place, while for public morality, it has to deal with and guarantee the most fundamental basic （什么叫基本道德需要？基本没看懂这句话要表达的意思）moral requirement. For example, nowadays, in modern society, people are searching for the most significant and fundamental moral principle, such as justice, equality, freedom and humanism, which can be the moral bottom line of equality and the common sense（常识？）. After all, politic relates to the fundamental and enduring interests of the majority people, or even the basic living condition of people. Also for instance, when it comes to war, politician must to make a rapid decision whose choices are limited. It is often to select the less worse part of all the thing, such as taking the minority interest for victim or violating some of moral principle for saving numerous people's lives. （看到结尾总算明白点你要说什么了。公共道德和个人道德的要求不同？如果是这样你After all前面的部分太累赘了，居然看到个人可以为他人牺牲一切这样的句子-_-……….这些话如果不是有特定的条件限制，比如救人于危难。。平白冒出来真让人晕。这段比较下个人和公共道德的区别好了，说明2者考虑的不是一个层面）
Nevertheless, in the short term amoral or immoral public behavior might serve a political leader’s interest in preserving power. （上端你说了the less worse part of all the thing ，你也认为那是不道德的吧，这段怎么转折后又讲到不道德上面去了呢？这段如果和你的上端衔接的话应该是对比，一个说应该顾全大局，另一个方面论证只顾道德的下场）The politician who just uses morality as his political status fails to success in his political life since politics sometimes are violent. Take Peloponnesian War in the Melian dialogue for example; it is a classic example of the clash of （between）morality and politics about international relations. In the Peloponnesian war, Athenian alliance is refused by the Milos with the consideration of morality of benevolent neutrality. And it is just this benevolent neutrality led to the perdition, and thus, sometimes politician must use short term amoral or immoral public behavior for political power, eventually for the nation.

Finally, from the discussion above, a rational politician should take into two aspects of consideration. One must sometimes oral （口头的？啥意思？）ways choose between prudence and morality in politics. The politician wants to take into account of his political group’s interest; also he must consider the interest of the country, continent and the human world. Throughout the politician’s life, it not only needs rhetoric to run for the political status, but also people’s fundamental human moral norms for the long term.  Take Bill Clinton for example, although sexual scandal happened with him, he still is recognized a successful president for his economic policy in his presidency.  （这个例子不是正好和你的but also people’s fundamental human moral norms for the long term反了么？）

In conclusion, politic has its moral bottom line and politician cannot success just rely on morality.

思维确实很混乱