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Argument174: 367 words   30 minutes
The following recommendation was made by the president and administrative staff of Grove College, a private institution, to the college's governing committee.
'We recommend that Grove College preserve its century-old tradition of all-female education rather than admit men into its programs. It is true that a majority of faculty members voted in favor of coeducation, arguing that it would encourage more students to apply to Grove. But eighty percent of the students responding to a survey conducted by the student government wanted the school to remain all female, and over half of the alumni who answered a separate survey also opposed coeducation. Keeping the college all-female, therefore, will improve morale among students and convince alumni to keep supporting the college financially.'
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In this argument, by appealing to two independent surveys, the speaker recommends keeping century-old tradition of all-female at the Grove College (GC). Although the argument bears some merits, a careful scrutiny reveals several critical flaws that undermine its validity.

To begin with, it is unwise to ignore the opinion from the majority of GC's faculty members. After all, faculty members are more aware of GC. From there perspective, which is more mature than students, the all-female education strategy may be no longer fit for the current development of society. Since major parts of them voted in favor of coeducation, college's governing committee should take it into account. Otherwise, their morale would probably be down and consequently affect the general quality of education of GC and its reputation.

Moreover, the reliability of the survey conducted by the student government is open to doubt. The speaker does not provide any detailed information on the exact number of participators in this survey. It is quite possible that the number is not big enough; hence the 80 percent cannot represent all these students. In addition, if the respondents were not randomly chosen, if the questions in questionnaire are leading, the validity of the survey result is also questionable. Furthermore, it is equally quite possible that the girls who respond might be shy to support coeducation publicly, therefore, the answers they provide might be untrue.

Additionally, the survey result from the alumni is also dubious. The speaker still does not mention how the survey is conducted. Even if the result generated from this survey is credible, it does not follow that GC should retain its all-female tradition. After all, the speaker does not verify that the financial support from those who oppose coeducation is larger than those who approve it. If the latter outweigh the former, it would be better for the college's governing committee to appeal to alumni who are in favor of coeducation.

In conclusion, the argument is unpersuasive due to the flaws listed above. To strengthen its reasoning, the speaker should provide substantial evidence to prove the validity of the two surveys. Moreover, financial support both from alumni who agree and disagree with the coeducation proposal should be calculated separately.

(Morale那一点我没有提,不知道怎么说好。大家给点意见!)
Goodall's mother once told her:
"Jane, if you really want to do something, you work hard, you stick to it until there's an opportunity."
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发表于 2005-8-25 20:59:36 |只看该作者
In this argument, by appealing to two independent surveys, the speaker recommends keeping century-old tradition of all-femaleeducation at the Grove College (GC). Although the argument bears some merits, a careful scrutiny reveals several critical flaws that undermine its validity.
T的开头。。。。瀑布汗。。。

To begin with, it is unwise to ignore the opinion from the majority of GC's faculty members. After all, faculty members are more aware of GC. From there perspective, which is more mature than students, the all-female education strategyproject may be no longer fit for the current development of society. Since major parts of them voted in favor of coeducation, college's governing committee should take it into account. Otherwise, their morale would probably be down and consequently affect the general quality of education of GC and its reputation.
实际上,我认为这点放到最后攻击比较合适。 这个阿狗刚开头,还没看到任何反对的意见,就谈到结论和majority of faculty的意见有抵触,很突兀。应该在
最后GRANTED校友和学生都反对COEDUCATION后,再来说他们的意见和教员的意见比,占的比重小些。

Moreover, the reliability of the survey conducted by the student government is open to doubt. The speaker does not provide any detailed information on the exact number of participators in this survey. It is quite possible that the number is not big enough;hence the 80 percent cannot represent all these students. In addition, if the respondents were not randomly chosen, if the questions in questionnaire are leading, the validity of the survey result is also questionable. Furthermore, it is equally quite possible that the girls who respond might be shy to support coeducation publicly, therefore, the answers they provide might be untrue.
怎么个不随机法,问题怎样带有主导性,影响了学生的选择,可以展开下。
Additionally, the survey result from the alumni is also dubious. The speaker still again does not mention how the survey is conducted. Even if the result generated from this survey is credible, it does not follow that GC should retain its all-female tradition.would lose its financial support form alumni if …. After all, the speaker does not verify that the financial support from those who oppose coeducation is larger than those who approve it. If the latter outweigh the former, it would be better for the college's governing administrative committee to appeal to alumni who are in favor of coeducation.
最后一句换成主动句,学院可能从赞同的人那里拉到更多的资助
补充,新的教学计划会让更多的学生进来读书,学费也是收入啊

In conclusion, the argument is unpersuasive due to the flaws listed above. To strengthen its reasoning, the speaker should provide substantial evidence to prove the validity of the two surveys. Moreover, financial support both from alumni who agree and disagree with the coeducation proposal should be calculated separately.
第2段还需展开。
结构上段与段之间不够连贯,这也是按出现顺序攻击错误时容易忽视的问题。
士气的问题,文章没有提供任何论据说明保持现状士气会提高,他只说了一个结果,不是么?而且COEDUCATION还没有实施,说不定招了男生士气会更高呢?

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发表于 2005-8-25 21:00:54 |只看该作者

这个参考下,别学他的开头~~

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The following recommendation was made by the president and administrative staff of Grove College, a private institution, to the college's governing committee.
"We recommend that Grove College preserve its century-old tradition of all-female education rather than admit men into its programs. It is true that a majority of faculty members voted in favor of coeducation, arguing that it would encourage more students to apply to Grove. But eighty percent of the students responding to a survey conducted by the student government wanted the school to remain all female, and over half of the alumni who answered a separate survey also opposed coeducation. Keeping the college all-female, therefore, will improve morale among students and convince alumni to keep supporting the college financially."
This argument discusses the proposition whether a century-old, all-female college should change its admissions policy and allow men to enter into its programs. Although a majority of the faculty members voted in favor of the change for coeducation, the president and administrative staff note that eighty percent of the students that responded to a survey conducted by the student government wanted the school to remain all female as did over half of the alumni who answered a separate survey. The arguers then state that keeping the college all female will therefore improve morale among students and convince the alumni to continue supporting the college financially. This argument is unconvincing due to several critical flaws.
First of all, the main support that the president and administrative staff rely on is the two surveys conducted by the student government of the current students and alumni. It is possible that the survey itself was flawed, perhaps asking leading questions that subliminally led the respondents to answer in favor of keeping the current all female admissions policy. However, even assuming that the survey was neutrally worded, it remains problematic to rely on it as evidence that there is widespread support for continuing as an all-female college. Firstly, the people that actually take the time to respond to surveys usually have a strong opinion one way or the other. In this case, it is likely that those that feel that the tradition of the school is being threatened by the possibility of admitting men to the college are the ones who would respond to the survey. Those that have a neutral opinion, or that would actually like to see the college opened to men, may not have a strong enough opinion to take the time to respond to the survey. The total number of surveys conducted by the student government is not mentioned in the argument. It is possible that very few people actually responded to the survey, which would indicate that most students actually don't care one way or the other. Similarly, with the alumni survey, the arguers only mention those who answered the survey, but don't mention how many total surveys there were or how many people did not answer the survey. For these reasons, the argument is not well supported by the surveys.
Secondly, by surveying only current students and alumni, the pool of those sampled is limited to those who previously accepted the all-female admissions policy of the school and thus are much more likely to support its continuance. Current students and alumni applied to and attended the school with its current policy in place, thereby prejudicing their own opinions as to what is best for the school. Additionally, with the survey limited to only current students and alumni, the student government did not poll those whose opinion matters the most - potential students. A college cannot survive based on its past successes - it is the future that will determine the long-term viability of the college and potential students are the most important part of that future. It is much more important to determine how many students would attend the college if the policy were changed. Furthermore, the arguers ignore the opinion of a vital part of the college, that of the majority of its faculty members who probably have a better overall view of the situation than students or alumni.
Finally, there is no evidence presented to show that keeping the college all female will improve morale among the students or keep the alumni donations coming in. This statement has no causal relationship demonstrated in the argument, whether the results of the survey are accurate or not. Had the question been asked in the survey- whether keeping the admissions policy the same would improve students' morale and keep alumni financial support intact - there may have at least been some basis for this statement, but without it the statement is groundless.
In summary, the argument is based on only two surveys of a limited sample of people with a built-in bias towards keeping the status quo. Without further evidence and a more fairly distributed survey, the argument ultimately fails to deliver on its premise.

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发表于 2005-8-25 21:54:55 |只看该作者
同志们啊,这么照搬开头要坏菜的!M所言极是!
"I will act," says Don Quixote, "as if the world were what I would have it to be, as if the ideal were real..."

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发表于 2005-8-25 22:01:55 |只看该作者
B1的survey攻击很值得学习的说~
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