8.20. 2000 美男拒

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发信人: yezi (冬子), 信区: Visa
标  题: 8.20. 2000 美男拒
发信站: BBS 水木清华站 (Thu Aug 21 23:50:27 2003)

签经先.....

M: nice to meet you, sir!
V: How are u?
M: Fine! and you?
V: Fine. and it is your second time?
M: Yes,
V: (看我的ds表）you are working in xxx company?
M: Yes
V:(看我的i20)you will study for the master in economics?
M: Yes, and I will focus on the theory of industrial organization...(被打断）

V: you will spend...（看i20的资金那项）
M: I will spend $30k
V: well, the uni. gave you some scholarship
M: yes!
V: what's your salary now?
M: xxx annually,
V: what will you do after your graudation?
M: I would join the investment bank...(打断）
V: which investment bank?
M: CICC
v: Do you know anybody in it?
M: well, CICC recommended my company to issue debt securities in China market  
and I...(打断)
V: Do you know anybody in it?
M: yes, I have some friends working in it （意识到我刚才的回答没到点子上。一个
经验就是永远先说结果再说原因。如果我的上一个回答倒过来就好了。yes, I made some
friends in CICC because it recommended....)
V: do you have a support letter from it？
M: no...（我当然不可能有！）
V: why would you work in it?
M: well, I knew from my friends that their job, as an investment analyst, is e
xciting and challeging, and their salary is much higher than I, as an accounta
nt,
V: how much do they earn?
M: about five times as mine.
V: (自言自语）then it is xxxx (用我的工资乘以5).
V: why to the US?
M：I need the theory of industrial organization to move from my current accoun
ting area to the investment bank. (打断）
V: why not in uni. of China?
M: the research is quite young in China. an example is china hasn't had a text
book edited by Chinese professor till now. while it has a 80 year history in t
he US. I long for the professional training in the US.
V: why not work in the US?
M: well I would have many more oppotunities in China. The industry of investme
nt bank is highly developed in the US, while it is quite young in China becaus
e of many regulations. But the regulations would be called off according to th
e requirement of WTO. So the number of investment bank would increase very qui
ckly in a few years in China, and the openings...(打断）
V：but do you know &^$&@#%^ (估计是说中国人在美国投行的人也很多！）
M: （我摇摇头）I don't think so. apart from much higher requirments in the US,
the language, culture difference and the networking in human resourse would b
e very big obstacles for Chinese in the industry of investment bank in the US.

(印象里这两个回合好像是被他打断我又继续补充的，记不清了）
V: but many Chinese could overcome these difficulties
M: （我实在没有什么可说的了）but...
V: you are not qualified for the visa. you could get a job in the US.
(然后转过身来，拿起章就喀嚓了）
M: (美男的确比较nice, 所以我斗胆跟他再纠缠了几句）but why?
V: 大意是，我依据的是什么美国移民法做出的决定
M: you know the networking in human resource is very important, especially in  
the investment bank. I have it in China but not in the US.
V: but %$&^&^^ many %$ in the US (还是没听懂。感觉是跟前面那句一样的。估计就是
说很多中国人还是能克服，从而找到投行的工作）you could get the job in the US.
M: （没辙，想走了，突然想起学校教授给我写的support letter压根忘了拿出来了，不说
说实在不甘心。）oh, I have the supporting letter from the professor, do you li
ke to have a look?
V: no. I believe you would be a student. but @#$#@% (估计又是什么你能找到工作什
么的）
M：（被他死咬住了，还有什么好说？）so what changes do I need to get this visa?

V: （耸耸肩）i don't know. @#@$@% maybe one travel to the US, maybe a master i
n China,
M: 我没什么好问的了。他盖了章，把我东西推出来之后，还跟我说了那么多，而且这时还
没有赶我走的意思，我就已经知足了。我最后说了thank you anyway

回头看时，后面还有一对老人在等着签。

一签被xtt拒的，一礼拜之前。这一个礼拜请教了很多朋友，我公司的老板，还托朋友找了
一个英国人聊了2小时。得到很多非常有用的建议，我的career plan 也一改再改。面试前
一晚还跟一个牛人详细地制定了回国的几大理由。签证时也非常幸运地碰到日思夜想的美
男（我下午签的，最后一队了。终于排上美男那队。可是同组又陆续有几个人被平头，dt
t, xtt挑走。我默默让上苍保佑不要被dtt挑走。）这是如愿了，可最后还是死在了水车手
里。我觉得他把我的基本情况看完之后就没打算让我过。（可能我不该把我的工资吹得那
么高。）

下午2点进去，觉得形势似乎不错。因为10号窗口坐着不少人。可是一整个下午，学生好像
只过了一两个。包括美男的那队。回来上网一看，才知道原来10号口那些很多是被拒了坐
那儿休息的。看来还是流年不利啊。

这次没有1000后那么沮丧和遗憾了。因为准备的东西，能说的都说了。美男也可谓是nice
。

不打算3000了。一来不可能有什么change.除非拿到cicc的support letter。可那是不可能
的。二来，即使签下来，学校也开学了。三来，工作这边，也要尽快跟老板有个交代。

成也罢，不成也罢，只要有个结果，就是好事。怕的就是不确定性。一旦确定了，那就可
以踏实地作下一步地安排和打算了。

明年再来吧。也许转战加拿大，或是英国，只要学术水平不错。我不是非美国不去的人。
我出去，只是为了尝试走一条新的路，心中有些理想，不去试试，总是不太甘心。尽管成
败是个未知数。

没有什么成功的经验，但那个英国朋友却给了我一些在签证之外都可能有用的建议。就是
，在回答问题的时候，一般来说，应该尽量先陈述结论，后阐明理由，尤其在时间短的情
况下。我觉得我自己回答问题就像是剥洋葱，剥到最后才看见结论所在。（比如上面签经
里说的那个例子。尽管我已经很注意了，但无意中还是犯了）

要感谢的人太多了，此处略去吧。只是还是要特地祝福一下卡尼和立祥，早日check结束，
赶在开学之前拿到签证！