ARGU 10 牛奶限价， 第一次ARGU，求拍，有拍必回

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ARGUMENT 10
The following appeared in a letter to the editor of a Batavia newspaper.
"The department of agriculture in Batavia reports that the number of dairy farms throughout the country is now 25 percent greater than it was 10 years ago. During this same time period, however, the price of milk at the local Excello Food Market has increased from $1.50 to over
$3.00 per gallon. To prevent farmers from continuing to receive excessive profits on an apparently increased supply of milk, the Batavia government should begin to regulate retail milk prices. Such regulation is necessary to ensure both lower prices and an adequate supply
of milk for consumers."

第一次写Argument，超时了10分钟，泪。。。求拍，有拍必回~~

The author provides a suggestion for the government to regulate retail milk price in order to prevent farmers from receiving excessive profits. The author comes to this conclusion on the facts that the number of dairy farms increases 25 percent while the price of milk at the local Excello Food Market increases 100 percent during the past 10 years. However, close scrutiny of the facts reaveals that it accomplishes little toward supporting the author's suggestion, as discussed below.

First of all, the author wrongly concludes that the increase in the number of diary farms is equivalent to the increase in milk supply. During the 10 years, if the supply of milk from single cow went down, or the number of cows in each diary farm decreased, or more milk was used to make other production, the supply of milk would decline rather than increase. Without clarifying these possible situations, we can not simply see the increase in diary farms as an increase in milk supply.

Secondly, when stating the changes in the number of diary farms and in the milk price, the author uses different scopes. The 25 percent increase in diary farms was coming from the whole country, while the rise in the milk price was in the local Excello Food Market. We can not assume the possibility that the milk price in other regions is also on a rise.

Thirdly, a 100 percent increase of milk price does not necessarily mean that the farmers gain excessive profit. Other products' price may also have a 100 percent rise or even more. If other prices are three times as 10 years ago, the farmers actually suffer losses instead of gain excessive profit.

Finally, the increase of milk price may result from a national wide inflation, or from a rising cost of raising cows, or from the improvement of milk quality. When these cases are not excluded, it is unfair to say that the rise is price equals the rise in profit.
Finally, the author’s suggestion that government should regulate milk price to ensure both lower prices and an adequate supply of milk for consumers, break the basic law of economics, that is, the law of demand and supply. Intuitively, supply would go down if the price goes down, for the sellers gain less than before. Also, if the milk price declines, some farmers will find it unprofitable to raise cows and sell milk. Thus, an adequate supply of milk for consumers can not be guaranteed. Therefore, simply regulate retail milk price without subsidizing farmers will cause a decrease in milk supply.

All in all, if the author does not offer further evidence to prove that the milk supply actually increases, that local Excello Food Market is representative, that the prices of other products do not have a 100 percent rise, and that the price increase means profit increase, it is not convincing to conclude that the farmers gain excessive profits. Meanwhile, since the author's suggestion break the law of demand and supply, it is not an appropriate suggestion to regulate milk price to ensure both lower prices and an sufficient supply of milk.

after17UID: 2681985

The author provides a suggestion for the government to regulate retail milk price in order to prevent farmers from receiving excessive profits. The author comes to this conclusion on the facts that the number of dairy farms increases 25 percent while the price of milk at the local Excello Food Market increases 100 percent during the past 10 years. However, close scrutiny of the facts reaveals that it accomplishes little toward supporting the author's suggestion, as discussed below.

First of all, the author wrongly （falsely wrong是名词）concludes that the increase in the number of diary farms is equivalent to the increase in milk supply. During the 10 years, if the supply of milk from single cow went down, or the number of cows in each diary farm decreased, or more milk was used to make other production 这句话已经承认了牛奶产量提高，这不就是和TS矛盾吗？产量提高供应部也提高了？难道农民还会把牛奶倒了？, the supply of milk would decline rather than increase. Without clarifying these possible situations, we can not simply see the increase in diary farms as an increase in milk supply.

Secondly, when stating the changes in the number of diary farms and in the去掉 milk price, the author uses different scopes. The 25 percent increase in diary farms was coming from the whole country, while the rise in the milk price was in the local Excello Food Market. We can not assume the possibility that the milk price in other regions is also on a rise.我有个问题，虽然你找到了这个错误，但是这个和建议好像没啥关系。建议是要限制B的牛奶价格，所以其他地方的价格是否涨了和B这个地方没有关系吧。
Thirdly, a 100 percent increase of milk price does not necessarily mean that the farmers gain excessive profit. Other products' price may also have a 100 percent rise or even more. If other prices are three times as 10 years ago, the farmers actually suffer losses instead of gain excessive profit.

Finally, the increase of milk price may result from a national wide inflation, or from a rising cost of raising cows, or from the improvement of milk quality. When these cases are not excluded, it is unfair to say that the rise is{in} price equals the rise in profit.
Finally, the author’s suggestion that government should regulate milk price to ensure both lower prices and an adequate supply of milk for consumers, break the basic law of economics, that is, the law of demand and supply. Intuitively, supply would go down if the price goes down, for the sellers gain less than before. Also, if the milk price declines, some farmers will find it unprofitable to raise cows and sell milk. Thus, an adequate supply of milk for consumers can not（cannot） be guaranteed. Therefore, simply regulate retail milk price without subsidizing farmers will cause a decrease in milk supply.这段论述的有点混乱，为啥会出现连个finally》？错误是找出来了，是不是应该分下主次矛盾或者分成两段写？


All in all, if the author does not offer further evidence to prove that the milk supply actually increases, that local Excello Food Market is representative上面可没有论述这个错误哦，所以建议去掉, that the prices of other products do not have a 100 percent rise, and that the price increase means profit increase, it is not convincing to conclude that the farmers gain excessive profits. Meanwhile, since the author's suggestion break the law of demand and supply, it is not an appropriate suggestion to regulate milk price to ensure both lower prices and an sufficient supply of milk.这句话挺好的O(∩_∩)O~


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爱上千年的猫UID: 2476232

[quote] During the 10 years, if the supply of milk from single cow went down, or the number of cows in each diary farm decreased, or more milk was used to make other production 这句话已经承认了牛奶产量提高，这不就是和TS矛盾吗？产量提高供应部也提高了？难道农民还会把牛奶倒了？

我这句话是这个意思：在这10年中，如果每只奶牛的产奶量降低，或者每个牧场的奶牛数量减少，或者把牛奶更多的用于生产其他产品。没有承认牛奶产量提高哦~

Secondly, when stating the changes in the number of diary farms and in the去掉 milk price, the author uses different scopes. The 25 percent increase in diary farms was coming from the whole country, while the rise in the milk price was in the local Excello Food Market. We can not assume the possibility that the milk price in other regions is also on a rise.我有个问题，虽然你找到了这个错误，但是这个和建议好像没啥关系。建议是要限制B的牛奶价格，所以其他地方的价格是否涨了和B这个地方没有关系吧。

嗯，我明白你的意思，我这里要表达的意思是，如果只有当地的牛奶价格上涨，而其他地区的牛奶价格没有上涨，那么统一的限制牛奶价格，其实会损害其他地区农民的利润。我把最后一句改一改应该更清楚一些：We can not assume that the local Excello Food Market is a good representative of the whole country. Therefore, if government regulates the milk price in places where milk price is not that high, the farmers' benefit will be hurt.

Finally, the increase of milk price may result from a national wide inflation, or from a rising cost of raising cows, or from the improvement of milk quality. When these cases are not excluded, it is unfair to say that the rise is{in} price equals the rise in profit.

Finally, the author’s suggestion that government should regulate milk price to ensure both lower prices and an adequate supply of milk for consumers, break the basic law of economics, that is, the law of demand and supply. Intuitively, supply would go down if the price goes down, for the sellers gain less than before. Also, if the milk price declines, some farmers will find it unprofitable to raise cows and sell milk. Thus, an adequate supply of milk for consumers can not（cannot） be guaranteed. Therefore, simply regulate retail milk price without subsidizing farmers will cause a decrease in milk supply.这段论述的有点混乱，为啥会出现连个finally》？错误是找出来了，是不是应该分下主次矛盾或者分成两段写？

这边是笔误，抱歉抱歉~第一个finally应该是fourthly，第二个finally当然就是只最后一个谬误啦~

All in all, if the author does not offer further evidence to prove that the milk supply actually increases, that local Excello Food Market is representative上面可没有论述这个错误哦，所以建议去掉

上面说其他地方的价格有可能没有上涨，就是说这个地方的价格不具有代表性，可能我的表达还是有点问题，我改改那段~

谢谢楼主~~我去回拍~

爱上千年的猫UID: 2476232

还有，我查了一下，wrongly 是正常的副词，是可以用的

after17UID: 2681985

During the 10 years, if the supply of milk from single cow went down, or the number of cows in each diary farm decreased, or more milk was used to make other production 这句话已经承认了牛奶产量提高，这不就是和TS矛盾吗？产量提高供应部也提高了？难道农民还会把牛奶倒了？

我这句话是这个意思：在这10年中，如果每只奶牛的产奶量降低，或者每个牧场的奶牛数量减少，或者把牛奶更多的用于生产其他产品。没有承认牛奶产量提高哦~

more milk was used to make other production这个和产量有啥关系涅？

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more milk was used to make other production这个和产量有啥关系涅？after17 发表于 2010-2-23 23:44

假如奶牛产奶的总量没变，更多的牛奶被生产做其他产品，那么可以直接拿去markert卖的牛奶当然就少了啊~
奶牛的产奶量=用于生产其他产品的牛奶+用于直接销售的牛奶