Issue144——艺术家与批评家的题材，欢迎互改

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TOPIC: ISSUE144 - "It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value."
*a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings, etc.

WORDS: 659

观点：艺术家重要，但批评家也重要，其作用不能被忽略。
提纲：
1. 艺术家对于艺术作品的重要性。
2. 批评家对于艺术作品的重要性。
2.1 批评家能通过反馈信息给艺术家，使作品能够得到更好的修改。
2.2 批评家能宣传艺术作品
3.  批评家只是起到了桥梁的作用，最终决定艺术作品是否有长久价值的，还是人民。

    What is something of lasting value? It is the art works whose values have been recognized by people in society. Now that it is people in society that determines whether a piece of art work is of eternal value or not, critics might not seem to be relevant with it. However, both artists and critics have their contribution in this art work of lasting value.
    On one hand, the art works are created by artists, and therefore there is no doubt that artists play the major role in giving society priceless masterpieces. The criteria that people in society regard an art work is whether the art work can move them or give them a sense of feelings in emotion. In this way, no one can replace the role of an artist in an art work. Take a musical for example, no matter how perfect the stage is decorated; how well the service is expected in the opera house; or how many commercials have been performed, it is the quality of the musical that determines people's views towards it. That is to say, the quality of the art work is the core.
   On the other hand, however, the role of critics in bringing in a priceless art work cannot be overlooked.
    Firstly, the opinions of critics can give the artists feedbacks about their works, which can be the direction of these artists. After the work of an artist is exhibited or performed, it is impossible for him to listen to views of all the spectators. In fact, a critic takes on the responsibility to give artists some of his own idea about the art work, which in many ways is representative to all the people. The artist can revise his work according to the feedbacks he had received in order to improve the quality of the work.
    In addition, critics can promote the fame of a piece of art work through ways like publishing his ideas in the newspaper. Most people do not have time to view all the art works, and it is the duty of critics to advise them which art work is worth visiting. If an art work is praised by most critics, people will have strong desire to have a look at it, which raises both the popularity of the art work and the possibility to be claimed as a piece of work of lasting value. For example, the works of Picasso are sometimes too abstract to be understood by most people. Few people will visit his art gallery if no critics published positive views on his works. Only after a piece of art work catches the public's attention can it be recognized the masterpiece, and it is the critics' duty to make such recommendation.
    Finally, even assuming that critics play an imperative role in the recognizance of a masterpiece, we cannot deny that some of the great works have been criticized seriously at first, and it is people in society that make the final decision. In some situations, critics may hold the opposite views with the public; or sometimes the art work which was not accepted long before became popular and famous as time going. In these circumstances, time and people are the judges to claim the value of an art work. For example, when Wuthering Heights was first published, the critics did not like it because the novel was filled with ideas from the dark side such as revenge and hatred. However, as time passed by, Wuthering Heights has become one of the most influential novels in the world. The criticisms do not impede the novel from its success, and the taste of people in society nowadays determines its fate.
    Both the artists and critics play their part in the eternal success of an art work. It will be improper either to gainsay the work of a critic or to exaggerate the work of him, since lasting value lies in the people in society.

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您稍等啊~

annkeUID: 2605122

[多谢修改！这是我帮你改的。]
  我的word居然没有语法错误提醒！？
    文章的篇幅比例就说明的我个人是赞成态度。是艺术家而不是评论家给予艺术长久的社会价值。
“但缺点是文章在前半部分写艺术家的作用的时候，分了两段，分别说艺术能带来美和艺术能给社会以启发和教导。但怎么都感觉这两段是艺术的作用，而不是艺术家的作用。在这两段中，作者也只是用排比的形式铺陈了许多艺术作品的事例，但并没有展开详细说明在某件艺术作品中，艺术家到底做了哪些工作。只是在结尾草草地来了一句艺术家也许做了很多工作，颇有敷衍之感。”个人认为单纯强调艺术品的作用实际就反对了评论的中介作用，因为，艺术品无需外力就能产生如此巨大的作用，而艺术品—按弗洛伊德说来是艺术家个人欲望的表达；艺术品又是艺术家画出来的写出来的雕刻出来的,又用了灵感汗水长期努力---因此就强调了艺术家的工作了。我觉得这样就已经很清楚地表现艺术家的主体作用了。你提的这个问题实际上预设了这些算不上艺术家的工作，但具体铺成艺术家工作我认为不好操作，而且会离long lasting value很远。因为，我认为，抽象的艺术家精神作用比艺术家如何磨刀如何用笔如何字斟句酌来得深刻。（我们都有预设）
“作者也没有写出如果不是批评家，那又到底是谁决定了艺术究竟是好是坏，未能深入地揭开批评家作用的本质。”因为我个人观点并不认同评论家，他们最多是bridge & ribbon，最多是 compensate the necessities of audience at times, 主动权在观众读者，艺术品是面对观众的。所以对于“如果不是批评家，那又是谁决定艺术好坏”这一问题，在我的观点之下并不存在，艺术品的价值由艺术家创造，由观众发现，评论家最多算过度，而且很多情况下他们成事不足败事有余。你提的这个问题实际也是把自己的观点强加于我了。
     在三方互动之中，站稳一方，贬低另外两方，再权衡补充一下，体现出discussion就可以了，面面俱到是不可能的。
在我看来，是所有艺术的欣赏者，也就是人民，决定了艺术的优劣。艺术家的作用是创造作品，而批评家的作用是给艺术家提供修改建议，给人民宣传这些作品。最终决定艺术是否能恒久流传的还是人民。我觉得这样写，可能能更好地反映出批评家和艺术家对艺术作品的贡献。

Issue144——艺术家与批评家的题材，欢迎互改
TOPIC: ISSUE144 - "It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value."
*a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings, etc.
WORDS: 659
观点：艺术家重要，但批评家也重要，其作用不能被忽略。
提纲：
1. 艺术家对于艺术作品的重要性。
2. 批评家对于艺术作品的重要性。
2.1 批评家能通过反馈信息给艺术家，使作品能够得到更好的修改。（这只是理论上。因为真正的艺术家都坚持自我不屑批评家，不会也不可能因为评论而修改，不然怎么修改的过来，就算要修改，艺术家对意见的选择又是怎样做出的呢？
2.2 批评家能宣传艺术作品[批评家也打压、糟蹋艺术品，凭什么认为宣传胜出？]
3.  批评家只是起到了桥梁的作用，最终决定艺术作品是否有长久价值的，还是人民。
[（人民如何决定？这个决定太虚幻了，人民的肯定=有价值？ 那么以前人民否定的艺术品现在被人肯定，这艺术品究竟是有价值还是没价值？还是说价值是变量，是被言说的？ ）]
    What is something of lasting value? It is the art works whose values have been recognized by people in society. [定义好！] Now that it is people in society that determines whether a piece of art work is of eternal value or not, critics might not seem to be relevant with it. However, both artists and critics have their contribution in this art work of lasting value.
    On one hand, the [art works] are created by artists, and therefore there is no doubt that artists play the major role in giving society priceless masterpieces. The criteria that people in society regard an art work is whether the art work can move them or give them a sense of feelings in emotion. In this way, no one can replace the role of an artist in an art work. Take a musical for example, no matter how perfect the stage is decorated; how [well?][good] the service is expected in the opera house; or how many commercials have been performed, it is the quality of the musical that determines people's views towards it[这里有循环论证了啊，artistsquality-people’s viewslasting values(按定义)，but artists play the major role in giving society priceless masterpieces]. That is to say, the quality of the art work is the core.
   On the other hand, however, the role of critics in bringing in a priceless art work cannot be overlooked.
    Firstly, the opinions of critics can give the artists feedbacks about their works, which can be the direction of these artists. After the work of an artist is exhibited or performed, it is impossible for him to [listen to views][opinions吧] of [all] the spectators. In fact, a critic takes on the responsibility to give artists some of his own idea about the art work, which in many ways is representative to [all the people]. The artist can revise his work according to the feedbacks he had received in order to improve the quality of the work.[例子杜撰，说理牵强。为什么艺术家不能听到人民意见，而只能通过听取评论家的意见？为什么评论家有资格代表all the people 的意见？all the people 有没有观点？按照前一段作者把价值定义为能不能感动主体，只有单独的个人才能被打动，作为群体的人民怎么被打动，又怎么表达喜好呢？作者对人民的教条理解太深了啊。。。作为美国人的ets考官真的很难理解中国人的这种情结。]
    In addition, critics can [promote the fame][不够中立effects or popularity 等] of a piece of art work through ways like publishing his ideas in the newspaper. Most people do not have time to view all the art works, and it is the duty of critics to advise them which art work is worth visiting. If an art work is praised by most critics, people will have strong desire to [have a look at] it, which raises both the popularity of the art work and the possibility to be claimed as a [piece重复率太高，注意用词多样] of work of lasting value. For example, the works of Picasso are sometimes too abstract to be understood by most people. Few people will visit his art gallery if no critics published positive views on his works[这不是例子，是想象出来的，如果真是这样，现代后现代的艺术家不用活了]. Only after [a piece of art work] catches the public's attention can it be recognized the masterpiece[不是把。。], and it is the critics' duty to make such recommendation.
    Finally, even assuming that critics [play an imperative role用词多样] in the recognizance of a [masterpiece], we cannot deny that some of the great works have been criticized seriously at first, and it is people in society that make the final decision.[说理不好] In some situations, critics may hold the opposite views with the public; or sometimes the art work which [was not为什么过去式] accepted long before became popular and famous as time going. In these circumstances, time and people are the judges to claim the value of an art work. For example, when Wuthering Heights was first[ly] published, the critics did not [like][appreciate/accredit/admire/eulogize…] it because the novel was filled with [ideas] from the dark side such as revenge and hatred. However, as time passed by, Wuthering Heights has become one of the most influential novels in the world. The criticisms do not impede the novel from its success, and [the taste of people] in society nowadays determines [its fate].
Both the artists and critics [play their part] in the eternal success of an art work. It will be improper either to gainsay the work of a critic or to exaggerate the work of him, since lasting value lies in the people in society.
[觉得这篇文章的用词多样句式变化完全赶不上之前那篇政治家的。说理前后矛盾。个人觉得插入人民那段，完全没有必要，因为issue题目是艺术家和评论家，而作者将人民的评价置于一个很高的终极裁判地位，偏题了。]
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3# annke

非常感谢修改~文章不妥的地方我也会尽力去修改的~

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:loveliness:  共同进步！

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