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发表于 2003-7-20 17:21:21 |显示全部楼层
195 "The goal of politics should not be the pursuit of an ideal, but rather the search for common ground and reasonable consensus."

[B]position[/B] [/SIZE]  :the pursuit of an ideal and the search for consensus are not mutually exclusive.

1.Of necessary should the search for common ground and reasonable consensus be involved in the goal of politics is that the support for the people and the harmony environment for the development are required. For example, Iraq, governed by the autocrat Saddam, ……….
2.On the other hand, on no account should the aspect of pursuit of an ideal, which might act as a flag leading individuals to the success, be ignored when the goal of politics is referred. For example, ………
3.However, the two aspects are not mutually exclusive. The consensus from people pave the way for the pursuit of an ideal, while the pursuit, if in the interests of the most people, would serve as a catalyst to generate consensus and harmony.
4.In sum

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发表于 2003-7-20 18:49:31 |显示全部楼层
position:politics in different country play distinct roles
1.in  some place it acts as the little's play. some leaders use their power for their own aims which are usually not for publics. e.g. Irag. it is their ideal.
2.in most of countries and the great mass of people, politics should be the representation of the avails of common.  
3.some times ideal and the common's lives is unification. and they are the best situation for a country, publics and the leaders.
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发表于 2003-7-20 21:56:26 |显示全部楼层
我觉得楼主的观点很好!

是个需要大家注意和学习的方面,就是你可以结合论题提出自己的新的观点!这样可能在论述时更加得心应手。但是注意不能走题啊,关键名词和关键谓语不能变啊,呵呵。
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发表于 2003-7-21 02:52:09 |显示全部楼层

my syllabus

195 "The goal of politics should not be the pursuit of an ideal, but rather the search for common ground and reasonable consensus."
  my position:
...in my opinion, the goal of politics unexceptionably should be the pursuit of an ideal, whereas the puisuit of the ideal and the search for the common ground and reasonable consensus are not exlusive.
  first, neither of the political power was not engaged in pursuit of an ideal. for example, British ,Hitler, and Iraq saddam ...
  however, as disclosed by history, the way to the ideal is not not just one, to attain the goal, both the force, by suppressing other grounds , and the peaceful way, by searching for a common ground and consensus.
  lastly, in the modern world where peace are more and more emphasized , to attain the political goal should resort to searching a common ground and consensus.
  in sum....

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发表于 2003-7-26 16:10:03 |显示全部楼层
an ideal=the goal of politics ?或者when the goal of politics is referred就要提到an ideal?
ideal在金山词霸的意思:adj.理想的, 完美的, 想象的, 观念的, 唯心论的
在这里作名词用,那么它应该是不可能实现的,ideal对于politics有用吗?(少数国家有用)
一个民主的国家,换届政府上台之前都会提出具体的目标:失业率下降多少?GDP上升多少?
这才是goal。
我的观点:支持,但保留
政治需要实际的目标,而不是 an ideal
政治需要common ground and reasonable consensus
正文部分:1。要有实际的目标。比如:人民生活水平要提高,GDP要增长多少
          2。 需要common ground and reasonable consensus,这样国家才会稳定
          3。让步,不能太中庸,否则在一些紧急的事件上,不可能由全民讨论,过分的reasonable consensus会导致效率低下,甚至是混乱,民众对一个事件不可能保持高度的一致。
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发表于 2003-7-26 16:41:56 |显示全部楼层
对楼主的写法不太认同,我觉得些50%的文章最怕先说一个后说一个再合着说一个
反例就是specialist那篇

我的观点:不应该把两个东西分家,政府从来都在for an ideal,而且必须在common ground的基础上才能实施

可能有点另起炉灶了,不过我觉得无非是发表自己对这个问题的看法吗,怎么想的就怎么说咯
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发表于 2003-7-26 17:09:26 |显示全部楼层
“政府从来都在for an ideal,而且必须在common ground的基础上才能实施”?
UK的政府的an ideal是什么?USA政府的an ideal是什么?有明确的ideal吗?
我觉得:政府从来都在pursuit a specific goal,而且必须在common ground的基础上才能实施
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发表于 2003-7-26 21:41:00 |显示全部楼层
1: 什么叫ideal,各国,各地,个人都有自己的ideal
2: ideal跟common ground & reasonalbe consensus不矛盾
3: idea是必需的,这是激励人们的东西

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发表于 2003-7-27 15:12:39 |显示全部楼层
政治永远是为经济服务的。在这道题目中:他想问的是the goal of politics 是不是an ideal?
难道the goal of politics =an ideal?
一个国家可以有an ideal,比如说实现共产党主义,或者大力发展基地组织,或者生来就是为了对抗美国,这些都可以,但是这些不能成为国家的the goal of politics 。国家不是实验品。
政治政策,是由国家的领导班子来制定的,并且有相应的制约机制来制约国家的领导班子。
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发表于 2003-7-27 15:39:59 |显示全部楼层
My personal draft thought:

I agree that the goal of politics is the pursuit of an ideal. Communist countries pursue communism; America pursue liberty, democracy and equal. Without an ideal, it's very difficult to institute the country objectives and strategies. What we want , such as GDP, or unemployment as objectives just serve for the goal. To serve the ideal goal, we need common ground and reasonable consensus to be based on.

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