温哥华的房价如何？

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244# Guessy
冰稳拿我卢瑟
chusuifeng 发表于 2011-6-16 12:47

子轩寒冰？

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观念不一样啊 主要还不是福利不福利的问题...
生个孩子出来 神马都给不了他 看着人家有 他没有...这不是苦逼吗？
要我这样就选择不生了 不能很自私的把他带到这个世界 就为了陪我吗？

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佛教的观点 人生下来就是受罪的

你以为富人没烦恼，不苦？人无远虑必有近忧

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我觉得让我小孩子生在加拿大，给他一个加拿大护照，就是最好的礼物了，以后他可以不好好念书，可以做自己想做的事情，只要表犯罪，可以不买房子，甚至不领结婚证，同居就好，这些是偶这辈子的梦想，就让我娃去实现鸟。。。

easonchanchhUID: 2846002

我觉得让我小孩子生在加拿大，给他一个加拿大护照，就是最好的礼物了，以后他可以不好好念书，可以做自己想做的事情，只要表犯罪，可以不买房子，甚至不领结婚证，同居就好，这些是偶这辈子的梦想，就让我娃去实现鸟 ...
hxcldf 发表于 2011-6-16 22:51

这也是瓦的梦想 但是我发现我不得不像现实低头....怕是到把娃生出来 他也不得不像现实低头.....

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这也是瓦的梦想 但是我发现我不得不像现实低头....怕是到把娃生出来 他也不得不像现实低头.....
easonchanchh 发表于 2011-6-16 22:59

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我觉得让我小孩子生在加拿大，给他一个加拿大护照，就是最好的礼物了，以后他可以不好好念书，可以做自己想做的事情，只要表犯罪，可以不买房子，甚至不领结婚证，同居就好，这些是偶这辈子的梦想，就让我娃去实现鸟 ...
hxcldf 发表于 2011-6-16 22:51

太天真了 你看满大街那些要饭的都是生在加拿大的。。。
只能说如果非得生在穷人家 在加拿大的穷人家可能比在中国的穷人家舒服一点
但在加拿大的穷人家不如在中国的富人家 永远都是这样

都不用特别穷 一般穷就可以了 你愿意看你家孩子一边上学一边打工担心明天有没有饭吃么
这样GPA很难高 顺带着申MD啥的都不行了 人家小孩上下学家里接送 住家里吃家里完全没有经济负担 暑假了还能花3000块去非洲做个volunteer 你家孩子就只能每天要死要活的打工为了吃饭为了交学费
我宁可把手头上的加元换成人民币回国过日子也不想让我孩子有这种心理负担

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262# Guessy

猜姐 乃也说的太惨了吧...
就算回来中国 我觉得结果都是差不多的....

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观念不一样啊 主要还不是福利不福利的问题...
生个孩子出来 神马都给不了他 看着人家有 他没有...这不是苦逼吗？
要我这样就选择不生了 不能很自私的把他带到这个世界 就为了陪我吗？
easonchanchh 发表于 2011-6-16 22:40

严重同意
很受不了那些抱着“我生你养你就是伟大的，你不能多多要求”观念的人

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262# Guessy

猜姐 乃也说的太惨了吧...
就算回来中国 我觉得结果都是差不多的....
easonchanchh 发表于 2011-6-17 00:22

起码中国我爸妈有房子有车 虽然在二线城市 但起码可以给孩子做饭 没有太大经济压力

本来就是那么回事 没什么惨不惨的
ubc几年前做了个调查 读MD的学生里 来自富裕家庭的比例远高出社会正常比例 这不是显然的么 在哪都是有钱人家里的小孩机会多
说什么给个加拿大公民身份就怎样了 拜托 这孩子周围几乎是个人就有这个身份 然后在这群人里你把他搞成最惨的一个 这是挑战孩子心理极限还是什么啊 身份有毛用啊。。。唉

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或者说 没身份不行
但只有身份依然啥都不是

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记得以前我和一家伙讨论过这个问题，结论是，你读MD，或者读PhD搞学术，反正靠读书或者搞科研上位，搞得出色的都是家里有钱的。。

GuessyUID: 2184792

记得以前我和一家伙讨论过这个问题，结论是，你读MD，或者读PhD搞学术，反正靠读书或者搞科研上位，搞得出色的都是家里有钱的。。
fantasia87 发表于 2011-6-17 02:48

OF COURSE!!!

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这楼太歪了。。。

话说我昨天看了个尼亚加拉附近的的葡萄酒庄，26w，1000多平米的葡萄园，三室两厅的bungalow...不错呀...

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Here is an example how bad your kids life can be if they were born in a poor family, although with Canadian citizenship
This is a bit extreme since most Chinese parent would be more supportive than his/her parents. But it well demonstrates the huge stress on kids with financial problem.
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Unhappy taking a yr off and its challenges
I am a student who just finished my third yr of BSc at UofT. I’m hoping to take a year off starting this September due to a number of reasons: my uncompetitive 3.08 cGPA, indecisiveness as to what my ultimate career goal is, and most importantly the toxic environment at home that I’d like to remove myself from ASAP. The loss of one year, in the grand scheme of things, seems dismal compared to the potential to regain some self-esteem, finding an attainable goal, and strategically planning out the next few yrs, before I accrued more OSAP loans and tank another year of undergrad.

My biggest challenge at the moment seems to be gaining financial independence. My short-term goal is to move out and my parents definitely are not going to help me. I’m willing to work full-time to support myself. However, as someone who does not have an undergraduate degree I’m not sure if I will be able to find a job that’s at least somewhat meaningful (i.e. not at a fast-food restaurant). I have an average amount of work experiences under my belt (seasonal amusement parks, retail, health promotion campaigns at school), but no “real world” types of jobs. Also, I realize there are a lot of recent graduates also wandering the streets looking for something to do, so the competition for jobs, even it’s a receptionist position at a dentist office, will be fierce.

On to the next challenge. My parents live within 40km of the school, which means that even if I don’t take the yr off and go on to 4th yr, OSAP will not give me extra money for living expenses. This means that I will have to work at least 20 hrs a week to barely make ends meet (possible. But not realistic if I want to improve my GPA). I’m aware that once you have been out of high school for 4 yrs, OSAP will consider you as an independent and not take into account your parents’ income. However, I am afraid they will still take into account my parents’ residence distance from the school. Can anyone confirm this? If that’s the case….I’m screwed unless I transfer to another university. I emailed and called my school’s OSAP office with no response.

Ideally at this point, I’d like to find a job (and apartment) in time and take a yr off, apply to UofT’s Michener Institute and start obtain a degree that’s somewhat useful, and apply to med if I decide that’s the route I want to take. However if I’m unable to support myself (i.e. no love from OSAP) during this time I will have to look elsewhere for a plan.

Sorry it’s all very long and ramble-ish. I’m in a spot right now where I don’t even know where to begin planning. It’s sort of hard to foresee what kinds of jobs will open up 3 months from now. I need to look for apartments now but I have a dime under my name. The thought of living with my parents for another yr and beyond makes me want to cry. I’m scared of the uncertainty of my financial future, which may hold me back from doing well at Michener even if I do get in.

I’d like to know if anyone has been in a similar situation and how you dealt with it, as well as any advice you can give. There are probably things I haven’t fully thought through since it’s all a rushed decision. Thanks.