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[优秀习作] issue113 这一篇真是不好写,怎么写也不深入!大家指点迷津! [复制链接]

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发表于 2003-7-31 00:46:00 |显示全部楼层
issue 113 "It is primarily through our identification with social groups that we define ourselves."
这样的题目如何写的深入啊?大家提供提供思路!Bow 先!

By playing with our fellows we share the same interests and favorites with them, by praying together in the churches we define ourselves with the same beliefs, and by joining in some clubs and organizations we can find our political tendencies. I strongly agree with the speaker on the assertion that it is primarily through identification with social groups that we define ourselves.

As social animals, people have a tendency to identify themselves, which gives them a sense of self and helps them find their locations in this society. Different societies tend to define themselves by way of different cultures, and the whole society also subdivides into countless small groups that define themselves by different regulations, customs, codes, among which everyone will belong to at least one of groups among them, unless they are loners and hermits who isolate themselves from outside world. Why people have such a tendency to define themselves though social groups? For one thing, it is unavoidable for them to associate with others in this world in that, whether you are conscious or not, their activities, ideas and even all aspects of their lives must be affected by others and theirs must also affect others unavoidably. How can one imagine that one can survive in present-day society without any interaction with others? For another, this kind of self-definition somewhat springs from the people’s psychological needs. All of them are anxious of the recognition from others, and all have a sense of self.

This kind of definition can be best understood by inspecting the whole human's life journey. Children often define themselves as the "little supreme emperors" in their family--a miniature of the whole society, as time goes by, they enter into day-care centers and kindergartens, when playing the same toys with other kids, they quickly understand they have the same characteristics with them; Later on, when they enroll into the universities, they define themselves as students, and in schools they may attend some clubs and cliques through which they find their interests. When they become adults, the professional fields also give them such identification. Granted that they become old, they also like to take part in some small organizations such as golf clubs, fishing clubs, and so on to relish their last lives. It is too difficult to enumerate all examples how people choose social groups by which they define themselves. But examining the whole process of human lives, we can safely draw a conclusion that people do tend to find some social groups on which they belong in pursuit of a sense of self.

Without first partaking in a social group, it is almost impossible for people to define themselves. Can you believe the nonpartisan who say they are in favor of the policies made by either the republic or the democratic? Can you believe an atheist who claims that he or she has Christian beliefs to Jesus? Of course not. It is also impossible for the isolated or anchorites to define themselves in that there is no any social group on which they can belong. With the exception of these people, there is every reason to agree with what the speaker asserts.

In conclusion, because people necessarily have some relationships with others, and because people also want to maintain the sense of self and belonging, it is nature for them to attend some social groups to identify themselves, although some loners and anchorites are the exception.
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一个小问题,在教堂也play啊, 不如换成attending
总的感觉的确不够深入的,正在思考当中--
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发表于 2003-7-31 09:12:00 |显示全部楼层

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我觉得对于为什么要进行define进行更深一步的讨论的话,可能会使文章更深刻.例如,why我们define ourselves, 是为了find a self-assurance,social assurance and self-satisfaction, to better understand our values.to some extend such deeds are parts of human natural.
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发表于 2003-7-31 14:21:26 |显示全部楼层
113"It is primarily through our identification with social groups that we define ourselves."
这样的题目如何写的深入啊?大家提供提供思路!Bow 先!
By playing with our fellows we share the same interests and favorites with them, by praying together in the churches we define ourselves with the same beliefs, and by joining in some clubs and organizations we can find our political tendencies.(是先有tendency才加入political clubs的吧?) I strongly agree with the speaker on the assertion that it is primarily through identification with social groups that we define ourselves. (表达观点)

As social animals, people have a tendency to identify themselves, which gives them a sense of self and helps them find their locations in this society. Different societies tend to define themselves by way of different cultures,(?,feier是这个意思吗?people in different societies would define themselves with different cultures) and the whole society also subdivides into countless small groups that define themselves by different regulations, customs, codes, among which everyone will belong to at least one of groups among them(among them似乎可以不要了), unless they are loners and hermits who isolate themselves from outside world. Why people have such a tendency to define themselves though social groups? For one thing, it is unavoidable for them to associate with others in this world in that, whether you are conscious or not, their activities, ideas and even all aspects of their lives must be affected by others and theirs must also affect others unavoidably.(people’s ideas, activities, and even their lives are inevitably influenced with each other. ) How can one imagine that one can survive in present-day society without any interaction with others? (Imagine that how one could survive in present-day society…)For another, this kind of self-definition somewhat springs from the people’s psychological needs. All of them are anxious of the recognition from others, and all have a sense of self.(;all of them need the recognition from others and need a sense of self)

This kind of definition can be best understood by inspecting the whole human's life journey. (这种定义?还是指人们需要定义自我的需求people’s need of self-definition?)Children often define themselves as the "little supreme emperors" in their family--a miniature of the whole society, as time goes by, they enter into day-care centers and kindergartens, when playing the same toys with other kids, they quickly understand they have the same characteristics with them; Later on, when they enroll into the universities, they define themselves as students, and in schools they may attend some clubs and cliques through which they find their interests. When they become adults, the professional fields also give them such identification. Granted that they become old, they also like to take part in some small organizations such as golf clubs, fishing clubs, and so on to relish their last lives. It is too difficult to enumerate all examples how people choose social groups by which they define themselves. But examining the whole process of human lives, we can safely draw a conclusion that people do tend to find some social groups on which they belong in pursuit of a sense of self.

Without first partaking in a social group, it is almost impossible for people to define themselves. Can you believe the nonpartisan who say they are in favor of the policies made by either the republic or the democratic? Can you believe an atheist who claims that he or she has Christian beliefs to Jesus? Of course not. It is also impossible for the isolated or anchorites to define themselves in that there is no any social group on which they can belong. With the exception of these people, there is every reason to agree with what the speaker asserts.(我觉得这段不如讲人们若孤立在群体外可能会发生的后果,如行为失调、无法与人沟通)

In conclusion, because people necessarily have some relationships with others, and because people also want to maintain the sense of self and belonging, it is nature for them to attend some social groups to identify themselves, although some loners and anchorites are the exception.


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feier怎么理解这题呢?题目的真义到底是下面那个好?
a.        人们透过他所认同的social group来定义自己? 例如我是主张A理念的所以我加入A的group。
b.        人们透过在social group中别人对他的定义(或看法),来定义自己?
我比较倾向a的解释,可是也说不出个所以然来 *_*

feier的句子还是很流畅,奇怪,么换成我一句都要想好久…
这篇真的很难啊,feier不好意思我没提供什么好意见,我也实在没什么想法,不知道高手们怎么看这题呢?
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发表于 2003-7-31 18:39:15 |显示全部楼层
我觉得可以从中国文化
和西方文化
再就是教会咯
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还有政治上的党派来说,democracy和communisty(??)
可以从group的行为,belief来说。
screw:我觉得a好些一些
b嘛,可以上升到人的nature来说,追求社会的认可咯等等
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发表于 2003-7-31 19:04:55 |显示全部楼层
我觉得这句话就是说指“我们通过对同组中他人的认识来认识自己,也就是以他人为自己的镜子”

大概就象中国古训说的,认识自己比认识别人要困难得多吧。
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发表于 2003-7-31 21:09:08 |显示全部楼层
to QQsugar
在教堂也play啊,

呵呵,是pray 啦。

to Crysta
why我们define ourselves, 是为了find a self-assurance,social assurance and self-satisfaction, to better understand our values.to some extend such deeds are parts of human natural.

谢谢!第二段,就按你说的写了。:D

to screw
我本来想从社会这一大方面说到个人:每个社会都通过自己的文化定义自己,这就是为甚么每个人到了另一个地方,都会经受一种“cultural shock”。结果发现好像有点偏题了。题目主要是说人们如何定义自己的。

关于对题目的理解:定位自己,主要是通过定位自己所处的社会团体。
可是如何定义自己的所处的社会团体呢?看团体的性质?追求的目标?
可能归根结底象yy 说的那样吧,看团体里的其他人!
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发表于 2003-8-1 16:04:16 |显示全部楼层
这题的理解真的变成两派啦…
呵呵…我和ken一派,gteryy和feier一派…
到底题目的含意是什么啊….ft
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to screw

我同意你说的
a 人们通过他所认同的social group来定义自己? 例如我是主张A理念的所以我加入A的group。
yy 说得不冲突啊,“认识他人,认识group,加入group,找到自我”我们主动的去认识,define 自己,不是他人的对我们的定义!
呵呵,个人观点。
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RE: issue113 这一篇真是不好写,怎么写也不深入!大家指点迷津! [修改]

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