issue115 题目的理解！

feier521UID: 109747

115"It is through the use of logic and of precise, careful measurement that we become aware of our progress. Without such tools, we have no reference points to indicate how far we have advanced or retreated."

the use of logic and of precise, careful measurement ？
什么是逻辑？（逻辑思维？）的使用和精确，仔细的测量工具呢？迷惑ing...

ken0405UID: 124994

我把这里的logic理解为前后变化
把这里的precise and careful measurement理解为数字，如时间，ph，gdp，学生成绩等等。
要不我把我写过的贴上来。

ken0405UID: 124994

To begin with, logic and precise, careful measurement act as useful reference points in evaluating the advancements in many affairs of our life. One can look no far to find many compelling evidences, which strongly support this point. First, in education, the score that students achieve in the exam is regarded as the useful tool to judge how well they do in the lessons. And we can readily judge a student’s progress by checking the change of his scores, which were got during a considerable long period. The increasing mark means that individual has made nice progress. On the contrary, the decline in marks means the student’s retreat. Second, in the economy, the objective measurement is critical to judge how much a group makes the progress. For instance, GDP (Gross Domestic Product), acting as a statistical system, is usually employed to evaluate the economic condition of a nation. Here let's take the GDP of China for a specific example. The growth of GDP by 8 percent per year in the past ten years, which China has maintained, obviously shows the world that the economic condition in China is prosperous. Consequently, from these examples mentioned above, logic and precise measurement is an important element in evaluating.

On the second hand, it is a common sense to believe that nothing in the material world is thoroughly perfect. And it makes no difference in logic and precise, careful measurement. Namely, there are many situations where such evaluation does not work, such as evaluating the achievements of art, literature, and humanity. For example, can the price level of the painting of Picasso, one great artist, precisely evaluate the contribution of Picasso to human civilization? Does the increasing number of compositions indicate that we make substantial progress in literature? Does the growing frequency of crime illustrate that we are retreating in humanity, without the regard of fact that education is now accessible to everyone, which improve the humanity greatly? Without any doubt, the answer is no. Therefore, logic and precise, careful measurement can not be applied to show the progress of art, literature, and humanity.

In the third analysis, as far as our legal system and our democratic politics are concerned, progress and regress in these realms have little to do with numbers, or even logic. For example, can you say the number of laws represents the level of our democratic lives? From the American Constitution, which only contains limited number of laws, we can readily find the answer to the question is NO. For another example, does the phenomenon that everyone obeys the law sufficiently indicate that our legal system performances well and need no gradual modification? If the answer is yeas, then civil disobedience led by Marin Luther King, which aimed to fight against the Jim Crow Laws, will play no value. What a terrible consequence it is. So the evaluation mentioned by speaker does not work in politics.

screwUID: 135321

哇…ken的理解很好啊，佩服…:)

glidingshUID: 110700

压力!!!

yuyuantanUID: 128559

my initial feeling on this issue is I agree the statement not only in ecomony or finacial, but in what we called non-numbered areas.

Pondering arts, literature or politics, although we maynot have precise data, but how about the logic? Does Logic takes effect on these areas?

For politics,  what kind of politic system is better, how we measure them? I don't think subject take effect on this, it should be a objective question, then we can find logic way to expain why it good or bad. for example, those politics which encourage the ecomony and improve people living standard are better, in other words, in progress. And both economy and living standard can be measured.
For literature or art, we measure them based on the craft and inspiring effect. although we don't have specific number, but based on the logic that skillful and inspiring works are better, we can still give out our judgement that which is better, which is not.  

From my understanding, such questions as "can you say the number of laws represents the level of our democratic lives? "  cannot deny the speak's point since the speaker doesn't mean that all data can be indicators.(pls don't mind my straightforward.)  Even from the sample of 280 essays, I found many questionable examples of questions which seemed less persuading.  

In the sample of 280, the author concluded that progress in politics or law is an entirely subjective matter, depending on individual's values, priorities and interests.  I'm a bit doubt on that. Let's trace the reason why most people believe in American politics. If individuals judge the progress of politics by  their priorities or value systems or interests, what the world would be? Disastrous.  I cannot agree that point. I think the reason should be through the logical thinking with factual information,  as that the current American politics stimulated individual achievement, ensure democracy in largest degree, avoiding despotism, ... then we can conclude that the current American politics is more better than before or other countries.

其实, 初看问题觉得是不对的, 但仔细想来, 又觉得对. 恳请各位老师和战友指教.
看到280中的范文总感觉说服力不够, 不知各位意下如何?

yuyuantanUID: 128559

我的思路还不是很清楚, 因此英文的表达可能读来费解. 我想说的是,  依靠逻辑我们可以对事物进行评价, 包括进步与否.

feier521UID: 109747

谢谢 ken， 写的真好！！PF
签名档“五颜六色”真好看。呵呵！

ken0405UID: 124994

一起加油
以前没限时写的文章都还看的过去
现在限时就翘辫子咯。

GcanadaUID: 118286

TO Ken:
你写的很棒,句式也了得啊!
做我的老师吧!