Issue201, 请各位指点，这次我花了不少精力去想与写。谢谢！！！

runwowUID: 153630

201"The purpose of education should be to provide students with a value system, a standard, a set of ideas—not to prepare them for a specific job."


Education is an important part of our society; the arguer advocates that providing students with a value system, a standard and a set of ideas is the purpose of education. At first glance, this statement seems to be somewhat appealing, however, according to personal experience and respective angles I conclude that the purpose of education should be to provide students with creative thinking and analytic ability. In the following discussion, I would like to provide evidence to illustrate my standpoint.

To begin with, the purpose of education should be not to infuse a value system, a standard and a set of ideas into students for our world is changing and our society is developing, every minute, every second. Actually such is, Bill Gates, creator and CEO of Microsoft and the richest man in the world now, once said (and I paraphrase):"the only thing, which is non-change, is change." Some value standards are not fit for the world any longer, which man once made sure of them, such as man is superior to woman which people accept they should share equal rights now. Based on the condition, it is obvious that it is not suitable that the purpose of education should be to provide students with a value system, a standard and a set of ideas.

In addition, education is a good tool for us to improve our analytical and creative ability.  Benjamin Franklin, American president, had said "Genius without education is like in the mine." when we receive education, we study mathematics, natural philosophy, logic and rhetoric and so on, which makes us not only know what the world is, how the past is, but what will be like in the further. During educational procedure, we can see more and intrigued to ask more, think more, what is the most important thing that education gives us, thus our analytical and creative thinking is improved. As what Francis Bacon, a British philosopher, had said" Histories make men vise; poem witty; the mathematics subtle; natural philosophy deep; moral grave; logic and rhetoric able to contend." Thereby, education should place most emphasis on improving the ability of creative and analytic of students.


Last but not the least, we have to pay attention to this case that it is likely for man to make contribute to society when he get the ability of creative and analytical. In order to express my view, a case in point in this respect is that: Einstein, German-born American theoretical physicist, whose special and general theories of relativity revolutionized modern thought on the nature space and time and formed a theoretical base for the exploitation of atomic energy. He is a great man for his creative thinking and analytic ability make a great effort on our society. Therefore, we can see it creative thinking and analytic ability play an important part in developing our society.

To sum up, based on reasons and analysis mentioned above, which sometimes correlate each other to form an organic whole and thus becoming more believable than any single one of them. As a result, any thinking people must arrive at the conclusion that the main idea for education should be not to provide students with a value system, a standard and a set of ideas but make them creative and analytical.

这是我的第四篇，前三篇我都写偏题了，这次自己要争气一点。

imongUID: 140258

全篇不提to prepare them for a specific job似乎不太合适。

education is a good tool for us to improve our analytical and creative ability.

is a good tool to = education should ??

body3恐怕有跑题嫌疑，至少放在body3的位置不太合适，这种背景介绍总是在前面的铺垫的。

body1从切题的角度来讲是最好的，但是例子恐怕不是很好：如果把man superior woman换成democracy的话判卷的是不是会吐血啊？

用词组句似乎还可以。

runwowUID: 153630

看imong评语前思考了以下这个问题：
这是一个是A不是B的问题，本文写了不是A而是C，再展开C，而没写neither A and B but C,
请问各位大侠我这是跑题否？
如果是跑了，我改成neither A and B but C，是否强点？作文改如下：
201"The purpose of education should be to provide students with a value system, a standard, a set of ideas—not to prepare them for a specific job."


Education is an important part of our society; the arguer advocates that providing students with a value system, a standard and a set of ideas is the purpose of education，which does not to prepare them for a specific job. At first glance, this statement seems to be somewhat appealing, however, according to personal experience and respective angles I conclude that the purpose of education should be to provide students with creative thinking and analytic ability. In the following discussion, I would like to provide evidence to illustrate my standpoint.

To begin with, the purpose of education should neither infuse a value system, a standard and a set of ideas into students, nor prepare students for a specific job for our world is changing and our society is developing, every minute, every second. Actually such is, Bill Gates, creator and former CEO of Microsoft and the richest man in the world now, once said (and I paraphrase):"the unique thing, which is non-change, is change." Not only some value standards are not fit for the world any longer, which man once made sure of them, such as man is superior to woman which people accept they should share equal rights now, but also a specific job, because some jobs can be get rid of or took place of and the chance of people, who are trained for a specific job by education, changing for anther job is low, people will be out of work easy. Let us see the case: thirty-six thousand men lost their job in American this year. Based on the condition, it is obvious that it is not suitable that the purpose of education should be to provide students with a value system, a standard and a set of ideas or a specific job.
后面相同，省了。
To sum up, based on reasons and analysis mentioned above, which sometimes correlate each other to form an organic whole and thus becoming more believable than any single one of them. As a result, any thinking people must arrive at the conclusion that the main idea for education should be not to provide students with a value system, a standard and a set of ideas or a special job but make them creative and analytical.


“body3恐怕有跑题嫌疑，至少放在body3的位置不太合适，这种背景介绍总是在前面的铺垫的。”??????
不太懂“这种背景介绍”，可否解释？
“如果把man superior woman换成democracy”是不是举slave ----> democracy?

看了imong评语，自评文章是中度跑题，2月5日考期快到，感概……………..
谢谢imong的热心，真的热心，过年了你还这么辛劳！

imongUID: 140258

苦笑，放假之后几乎没有一天不是从早上挂到晚上，头大..

A-->B
论述之前首先要界定什么是A 什么是B，这就是背景介绍

如果说likely to contribute 在先，education should produce 这帮likely to contribute的人在后，这是比较正常的顺序和内容。

当然这个例子不太适合这个题目。

xiaoaierUID: 137074

第一次修改， 如有不当， 不要见怪。
我只看了你写的第一篇， 没有看改后的。不过我认为第一篇的确偏题。题目的意思是两种观点
要你选择， 当然你可以两种都不同意，然后提出自己的观点， 但是你通篇都没有提specific job,而specific job 又是topic 的一个很重要的论点， 你必须给予反驳或支持， 并不可以像对待其它补充作用的观点一样，一点即可。（你连点都没点）
下面是我的一些修改意见：
你的立论是学校的作用是培育critical thinking and creativity, 也就是说TOPIC的两种观点你都否定 哪么要驳的话， 就应该找provide students with a value system, a standard, a set of ideas与prepare them for a specific job."的共性，以及他们两与critical thinking and creativity 的差异。
从你的第二段得到启发： 无论是a value system, a standard , a set of ideas 还是specific job,他们都是静止，僵化与狭隘的。而critical thinking and creativity 是dynamic, broad的。（prepare for specific job is teaching you a particular skill, which can become out-dated ultimately, and your operation process is fixed; similarly, 观念 is ever changing with the world and fixed notion tend to limit mind in a stereotype）基于以上的想法， 我的修改提纲:
1 disagree with both, the purpose is to instigate critical thinking and creativity.
2 No value is ever true; no standard judges everything. ( the first example is appropriate , but you had better think out a second to prove the latter top of this paragraph)
3 Similarly, no skill perpetuates and one specific skill for a certain job cannot applied to another area. (think out two examples )
4 the value and skill learned at school is static and provincial, on the other hand, creativity and critical thinking is dynamic, universal and broad.
5 It is critical thinking and creativity, not stereotyped value and mechanic skill, that propel our society to progress.
6 conclusion

runwowUID: 153630

仔细看了你的修改提纲，想法如下：
“应该找provide students with a value system, a standard, a set of ideas与prepare them for a specific job."的共性，以及他们两与critical thinking and creativity 的差异”。我同意你这观点。

"think out two examples":我想到的例子是纤夫工（还记得曾学过《伏尔加河上的纤夫工》吗？），或那些用船载人过江、河挣钱的船夫，现在这样的工作被社会淘汰了，但问题是从事这些工作的人多是无接受多高的education（education这里指学校教育，无论是官办或民办）.(怎么我脑子想到这些eg?),上google找了一下消失的工作、职业，但仍无好例子！
xiaoaier你能给点好建议吗？
请求其他大侠也给点好建议，另一方面对“纤夫工”这词感兴趣但不知英文翻译,上google查了而未找到答案，请教！

“5 It is critical thinking and creativity, not stereotyped value and mechanic skill, that propel our society to progress.”我想你指的是The main factor that propel our society to progress
is not stereotyped value and mechanic skill but critical thinking and creativity. 个人认为stereotyped value and mechanic  也起作用。

你的建议使我思路清晰了，我原本的思路：body1:教育目的的错误（第一篇只deny stereotyped value ,后来作了既deny stereotyped value 也deny a specific job 的修改）；body2:教育使人有critical thinking and creativity，存在这种可能性，教育做到这点;body3:critical thinking and creativity的重要性即propel our society to progress。

xiaoaier,thx.:)

milkmmUID: 154242

第一次来，也是第一次修改作文。如有不当，请勿见怪。
楼上的提到消失了的职业，我想到的是blacksmith, 好像在哪里看到过说这个职业曾经红火一度消失的，不知道恰当不恰当。还有我查了金山词吧，纤夫是roat tracker 。

runwowUID: 153630

milkmm,thx:)

"我想到的是blacksmith, 好像在哪里看到过说这个职业曾经红火一度消失的"

我也想起了，是新概念还是杂志？有点忘了，但从事这些工作的人也多是无接受多高的education（education这里指学校教育，无论是官办或民办）吧？有其历史介绍吗？


纤夫是roat tracker ，记住了。

吭哧吭哧啃啃UID: 153580

我昨天也写了这个题目的提纲
开头：教育更应该注重培养学生的一种能力，而不是具体教学生如何工作
1，教育的最终目的是让学生适应社会，在社会中生存与此同时为社会做出贡献。
2，只强调job，不能具体问题具体分析；会使思维僵化，成为干活的机器人（我想起了卓别林的一部电影，讲机器时代的工人思维僵化的，具体名字不记得了）；甚至与社会格格不入，与教育的目的相违背
3，教会学生能力的好处：即使不学习专业知识，只要感兴趣或有天赋，将来也能自学成材。（例子还没想到）
4，而且这种教育的需要越来越明显，如现在流行的野外生存电视节目，就是给参与者一次再教育的机会
结尾：应该培养能力为基础，在将来工作时进一步应用和加深这种能力

不知道大家认为如何，应该没偏题吧
runwow有个例子不知道符不符合：以前，大概十几年吧，那时侯分类检索是需要专门培训的，现在有了google谁都会应用

runwowUID: 153630

“那时侯分类检索是需要专门培训的”，这也知道，你牛！谢谢你！

"3，教会学生能力的好处：即使不学习专业知识，只要感兴趣或有天赋，将来也能自学成材。（例子还没想到）"
让我想起中国八十年代发迹的人，他们专业知识不强，但有胆识有感兴趣或有天赋。
不过这里例子真不好举