没有工作就能移民的趋势变了么？

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gamehunter 发表于 2015-01-10 20:45
这问题不仅和PR有关。我隔壁一个组的，两白人几乎打了一年的游戏，毕业前都找到了工作，都是非常大的公司。而一个组的其他国家过来的，主要是中国和伊朗，而且都有PR，找了两三年了，都没找到公司的工作，现在还是留在学校帮他们老板干活。白人找工作不要太容易。

这个找了2 3年的是怎么回事？2 3年太久了吧。。。。

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happymiaomiao 发表于 2015-01-11 01:55
这个找了2 3年的是怎么回事？2 3年太久了吧。。。。

我认识的pr说这种情况很正常

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hycqy 发表于 2015-1-11 01:31
如果是PR当然会写在简历上 就跟有驾照写在简历上一个道理
我面试IBM的时候和那人聊得很好 但是最后问我 ...

you can ask a candidate, on an application or in an interview, if she is legally entitled to work in Canada. However, you cannot ask if she is a Canadian citizen, a permanent resident, has a work permit or ask to see her social insurance number. You also can’t ask about place of birth, refugee status or religion.

Once you have made a conditional offer of employment, then you can ask for proof of eligibility to work in Canada, such as a social insurance number or a work permit. This is also when you can ask for copies of diplomas, degrees, certificates or professional credentials.

直接在简历上写PR简直狂霸拽......IBM这面试的也不怕被起诉...
而且IBM非PR满地都是啊....

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yu1jia5 发表于 2015-1-10 19:23
没用的。即时你啥也不说到了录取最后一步你还是要说你只有工签，因为他们要查你是否合法在加拿大工作。到 ...

Once you have made a conditional offer of employment, then you can ask for proof of eligibility to work in Canada, such as a social insurance number or a work permit. This is also when you can ask for copies of diplomas, degrees, certificates or professional credentials.

有conditional offer以后才可以查
事实上我们公司都不问...社保号给HR就完事
只有HR知道我的身份状态，我老板都不知道

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ybbhfjhh 发表于 2015-01-11 02:45


you can ask a candidate, on an application or in an interview, if she is legally entitled to work in Canada. However, you cannot ask if she is a Canadian citizen, a permanent resident, has a work permit or ask to see her social insurance number. You also can’t ask about place of birth, refugee status or religion.

Once you have made a conditional offer of employment, then you can ask for proof of eligibility to work in Canada, such as a social insurance number or a work permit. This is also when you can ask for copies of diplomas, degrees, certificates or professional credentials.

直接在简历上写PR简直狂霸拽......IBM这面试的也不怕被起诉...
而且IBM非PR满地都是啊....

赶紧起诉啊，ibm要是为这事被罚款什么的估计以后其他公司也不敢这么干了

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Cecilialoveca 发表于 2015-1-11 03:08
赶紧起诉啊，ibm要是为这事被罚款什么的估计以后其他公司也不敢这么干了

可能是大城市各种事太乱....我在萨斯卡通真没听说谁面试会被问是不是PR的...也没听说过谁找工作被歧视的，这属于绝对个人隐私的东西

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没有PR是很大的短板。。没办法

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snappytoes 发表于 2015-1-11 04:38
我面试的经验是，面试官一看咱这亚洲长相就会问（电面看名字就。。），能在加拿大合法工作咩。。答是的。。 ...

wanna ask what will the difference between on work premit only  and have PR?

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-1-11 04:55
wanna ask what will the difference between on work premit only  and have PR?

如果只是on work permit的话雇主的顾虑就会变多
他们会问工签到哪年，之后怎么办

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Cecilialoveca 发表于 2015-1-11 02:05
我认识的pr说这种情况很正常

呃。。好受打击。。。。这个2 3年找不到的会不会是他们专业不好啊。。总觉得这也太悲惨了。。

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happymiaomiao 发表于 2015-1-11 12:20
呃。。好受打击。。。。这个2 3年找不到的会不会是他们专业不好啊。。总觉得这也太悲惨了。。

相当多的专业根本没法自学，毕业了一年没找到工作以后只会更难找，两三年找不到原来会的那点东西早就忘光了......应届生的gap year在哪都很致命
有些专业确实就是找不到 无解

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ybbhfjhh 发表于 2015-1-11 02:45
you can ask a candidate, on an application or in an interview, if she is legally entitled to work  ...

你粘贴的这段话我只在http://www.hireimmigrants.ca/201 ... sk-in-an-interview/ 找到了出处 但是那只是个帖子一样的建议... 如果你看他下面链接到alberta human right commission那个文件里面对citizenship的说明是
“Citizenship is not specifically dealt with in the Act. However, asking the applicant to reveal
citizenship could require a non-Canadian applicant to disclose place of origin, which is protected under the Act. Ask questions to solicit information that is related to the specific requirements of the job to be performed.
Appropriate questions could include:
• Are you legally entitled to work in Canada?
• Are you a Canadian citizen or landed
immigrant? Yes No
(Do not make a distinction between the two.)”

说明身份根本就不是法案直接禁止问的，建议不问的原因只是可能涉及到出生地等其他信息... 只要问得有点技术就没什么问题..
所以想因为面试官在面试的时候问了是不是PR就起诉胜算基本是0. 除非面试官确实有其他歧视言论....
IBM非PR满地是但是有的职位就是要PR不是也没办法..实际上我基本所有的面试都被问过身份状态相关的身份情况
就算有了PR 也不是所有工作都可以申请 CIC在What permanent residents cannot do里面有一条就是“hold some jobs that need a high-level security clearance” 更何况连PR都没有
很多留学生可能申请的工作是可能要求PR的 比如http://jobs.applyfirst.ca/jobs/64222-mechanical-designers
University of Alberta的教职没有不让PR申请 但是说了“All qualified candidates are encouraged to apply; however, Canadians and permanent residents will be given priority.” (http://www.careers.ualberta.ca/Competition/A100825636/)

当然你如果觉得问你身份不合理你可以选择不回答 但是并不影响人家要求PR对吧 要是明知道一个工作需要PR然后面试的时候藏着掖着自己的身份到了最后HR说不合格有什么意义 无非是多耽误时间而已...

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Cecilialoveca 发表于 2015-1-10 13:55
现在找实习就发现了，班上移民口语再差也有拿到有钱实习的，我们系9个国际生，目前没一个拿到面试的，刚拜 ...

所以能一毕业就移民就再好不过了，不过现在可能性越来越小

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gamehunter 发表于 2015-1-10 20:45
这问题不仅和PR有关。我隔壁一个组的，两白人几乎打了一年的游戏，毕业前都找到了工作，都是非常大的公司。 ...

啥专业？