美国四年 以及 未来在美国的4-5年

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zxl120 发表于 2015-4-20 05:06
你如果真做过化学phd的话我觉得不应该会有这种疑问  我一个本科生在实验室的工作都要丰富得多 洗瓶子只是你 ...

LZ何必跟这种无知,无耻又丑陋现实的人废话呢

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MB2012 发表于 2015-4-20 05:27
LZ何必跟这种无知,无耻又丑陋现实的人废话呢

你自己家里又是开公司，又是各种投资的，不惧怕现实的，当然可以舔着脸这么说了。

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MB2012 发表于 2015-4-20 05:27
LZ何必跟这种无知,无耻又丑陋现实的人废话呢

I kinda understand why people say those who had a push PI for their PHD tend to be pushing as well. Thanks god I grew up without the need to worry about my next meal and my parents are supportive enough, allowing me to develop a good value.

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MB2012 发表于 2015-4-20 05:27
LZ何必跟这种无知,无耻又丑陋现实的人废话呢

now I kinda understand why people say those who had a push PI for their PHD tend to be pushing as well. Thanks god I grew up without the need to worry about my next meal and my parents are supportive enough, allowing me to develop a good value.

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MB2012 发表于 2015-4-20 05:27
LZ何必跟这种无知,无耻又丑陋现实的人废话呢

now I kinda understand why people say those who had a push PI for their PHD tend to be pushing as well. Thanks god I grew up without the need to worry about my next meal and my parents are supportive enough, allowing me to develop a good value.

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zxl120 发表于 2015-4-20 05:34
I kinda understand why people say those who had a push PI for their PHD tend to be pushing as well ...

你能出来读本科，说明家里经济条件还是不错的，你自己也承认了经济条件对小孩儿发展出良好的价值观有重要作用，这就是为啥那么多家里经济条件一般的，必须要转cs，为自己的下一代提供良好的经济条件和生长环境，这样他们才能去在没有身份限制的情况下，去追求自己想做的。

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北辰远 发表于 2015-4-20 05:54
你能出来读本科，说明家里经济条件还是不错的，你自己也承认了经济条件对小孩儿发展出良好的价值观有重要 ...

A desirable environment can help with the education, but I have seen so many millionaires with a son or daughter that's absolute idiot. If I have trouble get myself a meal the next day, I will even work in McDanald's . However, to what extent one is willing to trade his or her dream with wealth ( which means money here) depends on their own judgment. I have never told anyone if switching major is a problem. Actually, my major was not chemical engineering at the every beginning. It's clear enough in my thread that chemical engineering is in no way something easy.
You are despicable to me because you do not understand how to show respect to others.

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zxl120 发表于 2015-4-20 05:35
now I kinda understand why people say those who had a push PI for their PHD tend to be pushing as  ...

LOL, I agree. These people jus can't never get enough for this shizzle. To be honest, it's kinda reflecting the dark side of them.

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zxl120 发表于 2015-4-20 06:03
A desirable environment can help with the education, but I have seen so many millionaires with a s ...

看来你搞不懂充分条件和必要条件是吧，我说经济条件是小孩儿良好发展的必要条件，没说是充分条件啊，所以你说百万富翁的孩子如何如何没有意义啊，因为经济条件不是充分条件。现在不是你的梦想和财富交易，而是你后代，你的家人的生长环境和你的梦想交换，这里面可是涉及到了亲人，不仅仅是钱，仅仅是钱那就简单多了，能做自己爱做的事就好，本来也不需要那么多钱，但涉及到了亲人就完全不一样了，等有了小孩儿，想法马上变。

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北辰远 发表于 2015-4-20 06:16
看来你搞不懂充分条件和必要条件是吧，我说经济条件是小孩儿良好发展的必要条件，没说是充分条件啊，所以 ...

it's helpful, but i do not think that's essential. again, it something similar to the concept of marginal benefit. And people has the right to make their own choice. I am here, my family supports me, my future family has their own right to choose me or not. I am sorry my children have to stand up with their mum if I decide to have one. But it's gonna be a tragedy that their have no choice but stand up with some parents with poor value.

Again, my point is you have no right to judge others and you do not understand the word respect.
Can you please put your eyes on that for one second?

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zxl120 发表于 2015-4-20 06:26
it's helpful, but i do not think that's essential. again, it something similar to the concept of m ...

良好的生长环境，学习环境还不是必要的啊？你就想想你上课的时候，要是周围的人都在聊天说话，几年下来，你会不会受影响，要是就你自己想学习，其他好多人不想学习，看到你学习来骚扰你，影响你，你能无所谓，能和你在好环境里花费同样的努力效果一样？通过这个讨论，不是要改变你的选择，而是让更多没做选择的人看看，能做出这样选择的人，是有什么背景和底气的，比如你家庭都能支持你过来读本科，这在国内家庭里，就是属于很好生活水平的了，也难怪你能这么选，反正过几年万一不行，还有家庭撑着的，也不用担心。不少人选择结婚对象的时候，还没考虑到现实因素呢，特别是在美国这种因为身份处处受限的地方，等意识到的时候，婚也结了，想改也改不了，或者有些人还没来美国的，已经在国内结婚了之类的，过来还选个火坑专业。不知道你说的poor value是指什么，难道为了小孩儿，家庭，牺牲自己本来想做的，就算是poor value了，小孩儿就悲剧了？

而且你要搞清楚的是，每个人都有权利judge别人的选择，只是没有权利帮助别人做出选择。

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北辰远 发表于 2015-4-20 04:31
你光谈就业当然没问题，国内富士康招普工的缺口还很大呢，关键是看自己付出的和自己得到的回报比有多大， ...

不太明白为什么你要这么积极地花时间攻击每一个人。

所以你是在不允许楼主学化工？还是不允许所有人学化工？不允许任何学校开化工专业？不允许化工这个行业存在？

甚至是不允许任何非CS的行业存在？

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MB2012 发表于 2015-4-20 06:13
LOL, I agree. These people jus can't never get enough for this shizzle. To be honest, it's kinda r ...

确实，有钱人用各种方法占据了大部分资源之后，去指责穷人想多占点儿资源是展示了他们的黑暗面，有点儿像发达国家和发展中国家关于碳排放的争执啊，发达国家就是要人均可以多排碳来发展，发展中国家想发展被指责是污染环境。

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北辰远 发表于 2015-4-20 06:39
良好的生长环境，学习环境还不是必要的啊？你就想想你上课的时候，要是周围的人都在聊天说话，几年下来， ...

well, depends on you ~
if you have to right to judge me, I have the right to show my feeling.
I keep my opinion and you have the right to keep yours.
I won't bother my time to have any discussion with you anymore
Have a good one

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Kssandra 发表于 2015-4-20 06:41
不太明白为什么你要这么积极地花时间攻击每一个人。

所以你是在不允许楼主学化工？还是不允许所有人学 ...

是要在讨论中，让看帖的看到，这些人做出选择，是基于什么样的背景和底气的。