作死的人还是来报一下offer然后说一下申请情况吧

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PUBRY 发表于 2015-4-27 10:51
DUKE的生活成本比较低，LSE在London市中心，租房以及生活费确实很贵诶（房租大概是Cambridge的两倍）
DU ...

1. but then you get a more wonderful life in a big city..........worth it or not? it really depends. for me I will say no indeed.......I guess the living cost in Duke will be just 2/3 of in LSE.

2. Totally agree about flexibility, but I will put this aside when discussion about $$, else things will be too complicated.......
P.S. LSE summer method school is just around 2K USD, negilible in this discussion I will say.....in $$ term.

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-27 11:09
1. but then you get a more wonderful life in a big city..........worth it or not? it really depe ...

如果只看学费生活费其实lse & duke & other masters都贵。。。master program如果不是良心给全奖，都是贵贵的。。

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mincyZ 发表于 2015-4-27 11:00
LSE一年24500 GBP学费，按汇率10是24wRMB。。。duke官网给的tuition是23800$一学期，按汇率6算一年学费 ...

sorry error made in previous calculation..........your number is correct. [P.S. i saw 23.X K as 27.X K......cry]
should be similar at 20% TW..........and thus the major difference between the cost are due to the length of the master, instead of the $$/semester.

the main point of doing a 2 year instead of a 1 year master is indeed for a TA/RA (in additional to some more coursework, which is considered as less important than TA/RA since for reference letter), and one is paying more tuition for this...........so I dont think it is really 不堪.......it is just speaking out the key element of this tradeoff.
If I were in the position, I do think this trade a considerable one as the risk of finding a RA, especially in UK, is high.

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-27 11:18
sorry error made in previous calculation..........your number is correct.
should be similar at 20 ...

恩~~反正觉得除了良心给钱的tufts/cuhk/欧洲项目等等。。其他美国和英国的项目$$$$ concern都是差不多的。。

= =||duke两年<lse一年确实夸张了。。但这两个项目价格感觉确实差不多~~都是不小的负担。。。。

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mincyZ 发表于 2015-4-27 11:15
而且既然“ put this aside when discussion about $$, else things will be too complicated.......”， ...

1. the logic in my mind is: tuition are charged on academic consideration, and living cost are charged on daily life or whatever.........這裡我自己也有一點混亂了....

2. 我一直都認為US/UK的master都是搶錢的, 現在只是探討一下那個搶得更狠而矣........

P.S. 我一直評說Duke的時候都認為最大缺點是太貴, 其他各方面都很好的其實.
當然說不上是最top, 但是當我當年被他家拒了的時候, 我才不會踩他, 要不我便是一個連N流項目都申不上的?~~

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-27 11:22
1. the logic in my mind is: tuition are charged on academic consideration, and living cost are cha ...

赞同~~不过反正也会有心甘情愿去送钱的学生。。。（比如我

现实是好的master in econ program (我个人把lse/duke定义为好，这只是我的个人意见，希望不要再有人来喷了。。。）太少了，而相对需求又那么高。。学校也不是傻的，肯定定高价学费啦，看看隔壁商科master的学费就能看出来高价学费已经是没法改变的趋势了。。。

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mincyZ 发表于 2015-4-27 11:21
恩~~反正觉得除了良心给钱的tufts/cuhk/欧洲项目等等。。其他美国和英国的项目$$$$ concern都是差不多的 ...

Remarks: 良心這玩意存在嗎?

Tufts: 我不認為他家大量的TA/RA是因為有良心. 純粹因為學生綜合名氣不高, 根本沒private market value所以不能收高學費(或要有good TW), 而大量RA/TA也不是甚麼良心, 而是因為他家沒PhD.........
[P.S. 我也不是說他沒良心......只是說其價格是因為市場供求而非良心所決定的]

CUHK: 其實我到現在都搞不清楚為啥department為有咁多funding, MPhil收的不少, 雖則也不是因為有良心, 而是因為他們真的要咁多的TA (they even need to hire some TA externally....)
[P.S. they do have that much MPhil and TA for long time ago, before they have the MSc to earn more $$]

歐洲: 他們的稅............cry.......我某程度上覺得他們現在的pricing system只是因為要吸引國際生搞國際化(因為這方面歐陸起步較遲)......

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-27 11:33
Remarks: 良心這玩意存在嗎?

Tufts: 我不認為他家大量的TA/RA是因為有良心. 純粹因為學生綜合名氣不高 ...

CUHK的funding难道是从CUHK金融项目的学费和占坑费（deposit 7w）收过来的吗。。。。（纯粹开了个脑洞

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mincyZ 发表于 2015-4-27 11:36
CUHK的funding难道是从CUHK金融项目的学费和占坑费（deposit 7w）收过来的吗。。。。（纯粹开了个脑洞

i know you must be joking indeed.

P.S. here come with a formal answer: of course not la.
their econ department is in the social science faculty, and the finance program is in the business school.

and dont forget that their MSF is really crap and cheap before reform (can you imagine a MSF from HK cost less than HKD 100K?)

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-27 11:33
Remarks: 良心這玩意存在嗎?

Tufts: 我不認為他家大量的TA/RA是因為有良心. 純粹因為學生綜合名氣不 ...

CUHK的MPHIL的话，我个人觉得已经很有良心了吧，经济系MPhil每年入学都只有10人左右，进去的每个人都很强，今年4人申请PhD，2个TOP15

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PUBRY 发表于 2015-4-27 11:41
CUHK的MPHIL的话，我个人觉得已经很有良心了吧，经济系MPhil每年入学都只有10人左右，进去的每个人都很强 ...

也是的. 畢竟有良心的前提, 是有funding..........有了funding也可以沒良心的.
他家有funding還能保持student faculty ratio算是挺好的其實.

[離題] 中大是香港眾大學當中, 開各種taught master圈錢最多最沒有節操的!! 沒有之一...

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-27 11:50
也是的. 畢竟有良心的前提, 是有funding..........有了funding也可以沒良心的.
他家有funding還能保持 ...

恩啦，HK的话，估计很大程度上是用Msc的学费养MPhil和PhD吧

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PUBRY 发表于 2015-4-27 11:53
恩啦，HK的话，估计很大程度上是用Msc的学费养MPhil和PhD吧

I guess this is the norm not only for HK, but both US & UK..........

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问题来了 发表于 2015-4-27 12:11
我可能在二流学校当TOP学生，还能在三流学校当学霸。
所以我觉得这是通向芝大剑桥哈佛PHD之路的优势，干脆 ...

扯夠了, 吹牛前也請先做一點研究.

芝大剑桥哈佛的經濟系幾時新開了terminal master!?

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问题来了 发表于 2015-4-27 12:11
我可能在二流学校当TOP学生，还能在三流学校当学霸。
所以我觉得这是通向芝大剑桥哈佛PHD之路的优势，干脆 ...

哦

虽然道理是这个道理，但举例错误连篇。uchi econ master/ 哈佛econ master在哪里？