寻定位，目标加拿大德国新加坡西班牙等地的学校

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学校背景：上海外国语大学 211
想申请的专业:金融，经济学或商业分析（本身国际贸易专业）
成绩：3.35，前30%,4分制
课程：高数98，线代93，统计93，投资学80，计量77
GT：G680，作文4.5，数学50，verbal 28，不打算再刷
科研：有上海市创新训练立项，校内挑战杯三等奖
获奖：校内一等奖学金
推荐信：教授一封，实习单位普通职员的一封
实习经历：罗兰贝格管理咨询公司pta, 一家外资商行（大概500强李200）合规部实习，做的工作都很水
其他：

大家好，楼主申请下面几所学校哈：新加坡南洋和国立，西班牙esade商学院，德国慕尼黑曼海姆法兰克福等，对商业分析比较感兴趣，但之前咨询中介，中介说申这个专业的都是学计算机或数学出身的，楼主没有竞争优势，但还是有点不死心，所以也列上，对经济和金融业纠结不清楚选哪个，去德国肯定是读经济的，因为没法转专业的哈，国立也申经济，南洋也是经济，esade是金融，加拿大还没选好，楼主不知道要把自己定位在哪个上面哈，还有感觉自己挑的学校都是一个层次的，万一都悲剧就悲剧了。。大家还有什么别的学校建议也可以提哦

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0. Plan after graduation? preferred location of working, willingness to learn a new language, desired industry and career plan and etc...?
It is point 0 as this is the utlmost important question.

1. SG: you may add SMU to the list for consideration.

2. Business Analytics: how about any more statistics course and programming skills?

3. Germany: Economics master, you need a GRE. GMAT won't work.
Your may consider also consider finance or management indeed somehow too. At least worth asking.
(e.g. HSG MBF, Goether Frankfurt MMF, Mannheim Mgt)

4. Which school in Munich....? LMU Master economics?

5. Economics VS Finance: just choose both, or choose the one you like.
If it is a 2 year economics master, it should be flexible enough to have tons of financial economics course as a stream or concerntation or whatever. (just skip the econ program that are not flexible enough......)
If you are going for some business / banking / finance / management / corporate finainace stuffs, just go to a MSF in business school, or any acct & fina related stuffs.

6. Don't consider Spain worth to apply. Really limited reputation back in China, and limited working oppoturnities in Spain given the economics condition.

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-11-19 00:48
0. Plan after graduation? preferred location of working, willingness to learn a new language, desire ...

thank you very much.
0. Plan after graduation? preferred location of working, willingness to learn a new language, desired industry and career plan and etc...?
我毕业后想回国，prefer to learn a new language， 希望进入的领域是战略管理咨询、IT咨询或者数据分析，公司例如罗兰贝格，IBM之类

1. SG: you may add SMU to the list for consideration.

2. Business Analytics: 我没有学过编程，上面列的微积分、线代、商务统计就是我上过的所有数学相关课，计算机没学

3. Germany: Economics master, you need a GRE. GMAT won't work.
Your may consider also consider finance or management indeed somehow too. At least worth asking.
(e.g. HSG MBF, Goether Frankfurt MMF, Mannheim Mgt)我现在再准备GRE可能来不及了，我也静不下心来，如果经济不能申的话，我会focus在金融上，我想再问问如果申请加拿大呢？英属哥伦比亚大学，西安大略大学，阿尔伯特大学

4. Which school in Munich....? LMU Master economics?对的，慕尼黑大学的经济学硕士

5. Economics VS Finance: just choose both, or choose the one you like.
If it is a 2 year economics master, it should be flexible enough to have tons of financial economics course as a stream or concerntation or whatever. (just skip the econ program that are not flexible enough......)
If you are going for some business / banking / finance / management / corporate finainace stuffs, just go to a MSF in business school, or any acct & fina related stuffs.

6. Don't consider Spain worth to apply. Really limited reputation back in China, and limited working oppoturnities in Spain given the economics condition.

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duckblue0228 发表于 2015-11-19 19:34
thank you very much.
0. Plan after graduation? preferred location of working, willingness to lear ...

be frank, I see quite some inconsistence between your words......for example:

1. if 希望进入的领域是战略管理咨询、IT咨询或者数据分析, why 金融，经济学或商业分析?
business analytics maybe still a bit related but I bet that the companies will strong prefer something with a strong and solid background in statistics and computer to do the task.
economics & finance?...well...I will prefer to go for a good management master for 战略管理咨询 (of course it is a very very big question mark on "if you profile are competitive enough for that")
2. if 毕业后想回国, what's the point to spend time to learn a new language?
3. if 毕业后想回国, why 目标德国西班牙?

Conclusion: I will say.....better figure out what you really want first.

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cheesechan 发表于 2015-11-19 21:01
be frank, I see quite some inconsistence between your words......for example:

1. if 希望进入的领 ...

我是这样想的，因为战略管理咨询公司没有专业的偏好，所以我想出国还是学点实在的东西，管理学可能太水，而且那些管理咨询公司比如罗兰贝格也不是那么好进，所以做二手准备，学商业分析还可以做数据分析，经济金融的话比管理学要实在些。另外考虑德国西班牙，是因为我现在的gmat680略低我申不到前30的学校，其他的项目去一年回来学校名气也不大没有太大优势，而德国的学校据说当地就业比较好，考虑读完书后工作一年再回国。

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duckblue0228 发表于 2015-11-20 18:47
我是这样想的，因为战略管理咨询公司没有专业的偏好，所以我想出国还是学点实在的东西，管理学可能太水， ...

1. what's important towards management consultant is not the management master itself only, but more importantly the case project competition and network involved.

why management master sounds to be "water" is indeed because what a management consultant job need more is soft skill indeed, e.g. communication, presentation and etc.....a management master is related, and they need to leave more time for students to do more networking, or external case project and whatever, instead of "wasting" time on technical skills or theoretical lecture. Imagine what will the case be when you are in a solid academic master.

2. well, let me be straight, in order to "学点实在的东西" in the master, the applicant is expected to be ready for that, I.e. have something solid well studied in the previous bachelor.
it is always easier to go from hard to soft discipline, but much more difficult in the other way round.
Of course you can try, but as you have really limited math & stat (I will say you just get the bare minimum requirement luckily) and no programming background, it is not easy to get admission for a solid master....not to mention for a related role afterwards.

You need lots of time to chase up back those math & program stuffs in order to have the chance for any data or IT stuffs, and you need also lots of time for networking and project and competition (whatever what major you are in) if you plan to go management consultant.
I don't think you have enough time for both, even you don't sleep everyday.

3. I am quite sure that if you know what graduate level economics looks like, you will kick them all out..........
tons of theory are useless, though they can train up analytical mindset, but in terms of career point of view, there are better choice.

yes.....I can imagine the reason for doing economics behind is not economics itself, but Germany.
I will strongly suggest you to ask if it is possible for some other management / business master in Germany first.
and another question is: does it worth the effort to take up a new language for just working one year there?

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