第一封新西兰的陶瓷信，觉得教授好难交流啊

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这是我发给奥克兰大学教授的陶瓷信。感觉好官方啊，很不好套的样子

Topic: 2017 Fall prospective PhD applicant - Reply Appreciated

Dear Prof. Mark Nicholas Gahegan,

I am Tong Ling, a final year undergraduate from the University of South China, majoring in Software Engineering. I have the initial thought to join in your team. I'm wondering more information about your current study areas and your life.

I'm writing to you because I'm greatly impressed by your biography. I came to the University of Auckland site and scanned for an appropriate professor for my future study. It's hard to find such a matched people in a bunch of professors, but luckily I find that we are highly similar in leisure activities. I was once a captain of local rock band, playing lead guitar in the team. Also, I taught hundreds of guitar beginners and helped them discover the fascination of music. In my spare time, I enjoy jogging as a recreation. If I could participate in your team, it's possible that we share the same topics in a excited way and even forget the academic tasks :P .


Well, In research fields I've ever contacted Web Development and Graphics. Currently I'm working in Dr. Luo's Group with my final year project on the analysis of the Foundational  Model of Anatomy, a commonly-used reference ontology in medicine. Previously I did some studies on other areas but not in this field, and published some papers on domestic journals. Now my major work is covering Dr. Luo's work for several months, and applying for a oversea university.


As your research interests are too broad, I cannot make sure which subject you are exactly focusing. The broadness research you are conducting are really attracting me to work in your group. For me, the most exciting part of research is exploring the field of bioinformatics. Of course, I can make myself adapted in other research areas.


Thanks a lot for your attention. If you see the paper's abstract in my resume and tell me some , your current study areas, I would be very grateful.


For more information, please refer to the following materials:

My resume:  Click here

I've been covering the work based on this:
An analysis of FMA using structural self-bisimilarity
http://www.sciencedirect.com/sci ... i/S1532046413000397

Best wishes,
Tong Ling

这是老师的回复：

Hi TongLing,

Always nice to hear from another musician.  Bioinformatics is a very active research area, a good choice I'd say.  But it is not my field.  Try Alexi Drummond, in the computer science department.  I'm more interested in general questions of how researchers in all domains can have their research improved by computational approaches, from HPC to workflows, to ontologies, to visualization.  That field is called eScience or sometimes eResearch or CyberInfrastructure.  

Best wishes


mark
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感觉好像有戏又好像没有。。教授的回复都是这么冷冰冰的么？

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坦诚地讲，个人觉得楼主陶瓷写得逻辑有点乱，也没有emphasise你想表达的意愿是什么。

楼主第一段写了很多关于pastime上和professor的相同之处，不过楼主写的未免太多了点，还“even forget the academic tasks” . 下面楼主提到"As your research interests are too broad, I cannot make sure which subject you are exactly focusing" ... "For me, the most exciting part of research is exploring the field of bioinformatics." 所以professor回信中解释了他的field，并根据楼主所述推荐了Alexi Drummond. 我个人觉得这些回复都是很合情理的。

楼主就因此觉得professor的回复很冷冰冰吗？我倒没觉得。当然我说的也都是个人的看法，仅希望对楼主能有点启发以对日后陶瓷更顺利有帮助。

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噢……  因为在导师介绍里面，这个教授提到过他的生活经历：

I have worked as a delivery boy, fitness instructor, musician, and software engineer so geography seemed the next logical choice. In whatever spare time is left over after family, work and trying to keep in shape. .Oh, yes, I've also played guitar in a local band.

所以我觉得这个导师应该是很热爱生活的，所以就尽量跟他扯这些了

在学术研究里面，他这么说：

My research interests are broad, covering most aspects of GIS, visualization, philosophy of science, semantics and pragmatics, e-science, representation of scientific knowledge, geocomputation, digital remote sensing, artificial intelligence tools, spatial analysis, Voronoi diagrams, spatial databases and algorithms 后面还有一大堆……

版主大大的意思是只讨论学术上的问题？

要是在学术上深入讨论的话，在下真的说不出什么深入的东西_(:з」∠)_..

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tl545716730 发表于 2016-7-18 15:03
噢……  因为在导师介绍里面，这个教授提到过他的生活经历：

I have worked as a delivery boy, fitness ...

套磁当然要在学术上多扯啊，怎么会说不出什么深入的东西呢？楼主得加强自信啊！

我个人觉得套磁的本质就是自荐。对professor的field感兴趣，让他偏要你这个人而不要别人，说白了就是sell yourself. 这个professor都说了他研究的是eScience (eResearch) or CyberInfrastructure. 那既然如此如果楼主还想跟人家，就得说你就对这个感兴趣，并且你有能力干好。既然楼主在套磁时想达到目的，就应该换位想想如果你是professor，你会希望看到什么样的套磁？个人觉得说一大篇general的“很巧我跟你爱好相同“ 能套近乎的效果没有干脆强调”我想干，我能干“更好。

建议楼主再多看看论坛里的套磁经验贴，再多做做功课。北美区一些牛人的贴子套磁经验还是很多的。

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FFF1st 发表于 2016-7-18 19:47
套磁当然要在学术上多扯啊，怎么会说不出什么深入的东西呢？楼主得加强自信啊！

我个人觉得套磁的本质 ...

好的，非常感谢版主细心的指导。

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tl545716730 发表于 2016-7-18 20:13
好的，非常感谢版主细心的指导。

客气了，加油祝一切顺利。

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可以多看看教授的发表文章领域，在去陶瓷，否则成功率不高

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建议想申phD准备套磁的朋友都看看这篇贴子https://bbs.gter.net/thread-1746423-1-1.html 套磁经验贴中很多东西是触类旁通的，只要大家get到了核心技能，无论是申哪国的院校对自己套磁都会有很大帮助。

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FFF1st 发表于 2016-7-26 18:14
建议想申phD准备套磁的朋友都看看这篇贴子https://bbs.gter.net/thread-1746423-1-1.html 套磁经验贴中很多东 ...

想请问，没有科研背景的是不是就根本没办法去套磁了，是这样的吗
那是不申请研究性就不用去套磁呢？

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Jackgor- 发表于 2016-11-19 11:35
想请问，没有科研背景的是不是就根本没办法去套磁了，是这样的吗
那是不申请研究性就不用去套磁呢？

个人觉得这与专业有关；不过对于理工科的phD, paper肯定有说服力。但如果你真的什么都没有，那就something's better than nothing 吧

这边一般分为授课型和研究型，授课型不需要套磁。

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FFF1st 发表于 2016-11-19 15:24
个人觉得这与专业有关；不过对于理工科的phD, paper肯定有说服力。但如果你真的什么都没有，那就somethin ...

那请问无背景又想申请土澳或者奥克兰 如果均分在85左右 能有机会去什么学校读授课型

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Jackgor- 发表于 2016-11-20 08:15
那请问无背景又想申请土澳或者奥克兰 如果均分在85左右 能有机会去什么学校读授课型

学校官网会列出对申请要求的最低GPA，不同学校要求不同。