issue157 自我感觉尚可!拍必回!!

ouymUID: 2109118

真正意义上的第二篇，未限时，400字，但自我感觉尚可，求拍砖！有拍必回！！

Issue 157：There is no such thing as purely objective observation. All observation is subjective; it is always guided by the observer’s expectations or desires.
Is it true that there is no purely objective observation? Is all observation subjective? Is all observation guided by the observer’s expectation or desires as the speaker asserts? Many people may accept these assertions without hesitate. As far as I am concerned, these assertions are misleading for it overemphasizes the role of subjective in the process of observation. And I believe that there dose exit purely and partly objective observation.

I concede that many observations are subjective. When an observation is proceeding, the observer will inevitably use his or her experiences and knowledge. For example, watching the same blue sky, children might imagine that there must live some deity and pilots may think that it be a good day to fly. Hearing the same piece of music, musician may tell you how sweetness it is. But as to a painter it may be noisy and boring. In some circumstances, the observer may also be guided by the observer’s expectations or desires with or without intention. Ample examples in history demonstrate that. For example, in Aristotle’s eyes, heavy things fall faster than light ones.   

However, there do exist some other observations that are mainly or even purely objective. As mentioned above, we view our world with our experience and knowledge that we got in the past. In the process of observation, if we use the same correct experiences and knowledge, we do reach a same correct conclusion and we call this observation is a objective observation. For instance, we can measure the weight of an elephant and an ant with balance and reach a conclusion that an elephant weights over than an ant. That is a purely objective observation. We now also know that the sun is bigger than the earth and the earth is moving around the sun. All of this knowledge is the results of objective observation. It is by numerous of this objective observation then we accumulate our knowledge and step by step construct our civilization and make us distinct from the rest of the creatures in the world. And now we still make our every effort to pursue objective observation.

In sum, although many observations are subjective, there do exit purely objective observation. And it is by ceaselessly pursuing objective observations then we human being develop civilization and keep it go ahead. Overemphasize the role of subjective in the process of observation will inevitably lead to nihilism.

[ Last edited by staralways on 2005-8-3 at 09:32 ]

飞啊~飞UID: 2121330

Issue 157：There is no such thing as purely objective observation. All observation is subjective; it is always guided by the observer’s expectations or desires.

Is it true that there is no purely objective observation? Is all observation subjective? Is all observation guided by the observer’s expectation or desires as the speaker asserts? Many people may accept these assertions without hesitate. As far as I am concerned, these assertions are misleading for it overemphasizes the role of subjective in the process of observation. And I believe that there dose exit purely and partly objective observation. [用not only ...but also  或both好点]
I concede that many observations are subjective. When an observation is proceeding, the observer will inevitably use his or her experiences and knowledge. For example, watching the same blue sky, children might imagine that there must live some deity and pilots may think that it be a good day to fly. Hearing the same piece of music, musician may tell you how sweetness it is. But as to a painter it may be noisy and boring. In some circumstances, the observer may also be guided by the observer’s expectations or desires with or without intention. Ample examples in history demonstrate that. For example, in Aristotle’s eyes, heavy things fall faster than light ones.   再加一句,因为对同样的事物不同人的观察结果不同,所以这样的观察是主观的

However, there do exist some other observations that are mainly or even purely objective. As mentioned above, we view our world with our experience and knowledge that we got in the past. In the process of observation, if we use the same correct experiences and knowledge, we do reach a same correct conclusion and we call this observation is [去掉]a [an]objective observation. For instance, we can measure the weight of an elephant and an ant with balance and reach a conclusion that an elephant weights over than[去掉] an ant. That is a purely objective observation. We now also know that the sun is bigger than the earth and the earth is moving around the sun. All of this knowledge is the results of objective observation. It is by numerous of this objective observation then we accumulate our knowledge and step by step construct our civilization and make us distinct from the rest of the creatures in the world. And now we still make our every effort to pursue objective observation.[这一段论证有些牵强, 原因在对客观的定义本身不够客观.如果按你的逻辑推下去, 那么第一段中的主观也符合这个定义. 小孩子总认为有神,飞行员老觉得好飞.如果按照字典的定义就可以避免这个问题了]

In sum, although many observations are subjective, there do exit purely objective observation. And it is by ceaselessly pursuing objective observations then we human being develop civilization and keep it go ahead. Overemphasize the role of subjective in the process of observation will inevitably lead to nihilism.

你这篇有个大问题:你只讨论了两种观察的存在性,而对it is always guided by the observer’s expectations or desires.没有涉及. 我认为应该单列一段讨论,这样字数也上去了

在逻辑上, 第一段: 主观,因为用到经验和知识
         第二段:客观, 因为用同样的经验得到同样的结果----这种情况是用经验的一种特例, 但却成了客观的了,与第一段矛盾. 你可以在第一段把'主观'也定义一下, 说清与'客观的用经验'的区别.
语言没怎么改,读你的很舒服^.^

我的还一篇,欢迎讨论:handshake:handshake
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G10T5UID: 2101393

Is it true that there is no purely objective observation? Is all observation subjective? Is all observation guided by the observer’s expectation or desires as the speaker asserts? Many people may accept these assertions without hesitate （hesitation）. As far as I am concerned, these assertions are misleading for it overemphasizes the role of subjective in the process of observation. And I believe that there dose exit purely and partly objective observation.

I concede that many observations are subjective. When an observation is proceeding, the observer will inevitably use his or her experiences and knowledge. For example, watching the same blue sky, children might imagine that there must live some deity and pilots may think that it be a good day to fly （这个例子不好，只说了观察后的反映不同，没说观察结果本身不同）. Hearing the same piece of music, musician may tell you how sweetness it is. But as to a painter it may be noisy and boring. In some circumstances, the observer may also be guided by the observer’s expectations or desires with or without intention. Ample examples in history demonstrate that. For example, in Aristotle’s eyes, heavy things fall faster than light ones （指出是他的哲学观点才导致了这个错误的结果）.   

However, there do exist some other observations that are mainly or even purely objective. As mentioned above, we view our world with our experience and knowledge that we got in the past. In the process of observation, if we use the same correct experiences and knowledge, we do reach a same correct conclusion and we call this observation is a （an）objective observation. For instance, we can measure the weight of an elephant and an ant with balance and reach a conclusion that an elephant weights over than an ant. That is a purely objective observation. We now also know that the sun is bigger than the earth and the earth is moving around the sun. All of this knowledge is the results of objective observation. It is by numerous of this objective observation then we accumulate our knowledge and step by step construct our civilization and make us distinct from the rest of the creatures in the world. And now we still make our every effort to pursue objective observation. （这段我觉得例子还是不错的，但是不能很好的支持你的观点，你应该指出我们在承重量时用到了什么先验知识等等。不过我觉得你还不如不提什么以前的经验和知识。）

In sum, although many observations are subjective, there do exit purely objective observation. And it is by ceaselessly pursuing objective observations then we human being develop civilization and keep it go ahead. Overemphasize the role of subjective in the process of observation will inevitably lead to nihilism.

ouymUID: 2109118

非常感谢楼上的两位!:)
还是要加倍努力呀!

lignumvitaeUID: 207532

谢谢你拍我，看了你的，已有两位同学细改，建议满中肯的，我再简单说点建议：
第二段的例子不太好，那个音乐家和画家的有点绝对；还有就是数字，你是不是离考试还有一段时间？加油多写吧！
Good luck!

amanda1011UID: 2106668

Is it true that there is no purely objective observation? Is all observation subjective? Is all observation guided by the observer’s expectation or desires as the speaker asserts? Many people may accept these assertions without hesitate. As far as I am concerned, these assertions are misleading for it overemphasizes the role of subjective in the process of observation. And I believe that there dose exit purely and partly objective observation.

I concede that many observations are subjective. When an observation is proceeding, the observer will inevitably use his or her experiences（这里应该是抽象的经验吧？不可数） and knowledge. For example, watching the same blue sky, children might imagine that there must live some deity and（while） pilots may think that it be a good day to fly. Hearing the same piece of music, musician（s） may tell you how sweetness（sweet） it is. But as to a painter it may be noisy and boring. In some circumstances, the observer may also be guided by the observer’s（his/her） expectations or desires with or without intention. Ample examples in history demonstrate that. For example, in Aristotle’s eyes, heavy things fall faster than light ones.  （最后这个例子不好，同意G10T5，画蛇添足。还感觉没有结尾。还是应该补充一句话，来跟段落开头呼应。）

However, there do exist some other observations that are mainly or even purely objective. As mentioned above, we view our world with our experience and knowledge that we got in the past. In the process of observation, if we use the same correct experiences and knowledge, we do reach a（the） same correct conclusion and we call this observation is a objective observation. For instance, we can measure the weight of an elephant and an ant with balance and reach a conclusion that an elephant weights over than an ant. That is a purely objective observation. We now also know that the sun is bigger than the earth and the earth is moving around the sun. All of this knowledge is the results of objective observation. It is by numerous of this objective observation then we accumulate our knowledge and step by step construct our civilization and make us distinct from the rest of the creatures in the world. And now we still make our every effort to pursue objective observation.（我也觉得这段论证有问题。看前半段的理论部分，马上联想到的是，按你这么说，小孩和飞行员观察的也都是客观的了，因为他们每次看到的也可以都是一个结论啊。每次结论一样不足以说明观察就是客观的。最后的两句也是废话，对论证观点基本没有作用，只是“发挥”了一下。可能找一些更科学一点的证据比较有说服力。从经验和知识角度来说，不见得可信，毕竟人们的经验和知识经常出错，呵呵）

In sum, although many observations are subjective, there do exit purely objective observation. And it is by ceaselessly pursuing objective observations then we human being develop civilization and keep it go ahead. Overemphasize the role of subjective in the process of observation will inevitably lead to nihilism.

Archer1123UID: 206148

我看了楼上都改得差不多了，补充一点个人意见，仅供参考，呵呵
Issue 157：There is no such thing as purely objective observation. All observation is subjective; it is always guided by the observer’s expectations or desires.
Is it true that there is no purely objective observation? Is all observation subjective? Is all observation guided by the observer’s expectation or desires as the speaker asserts? Many people may accept these assertions without hesitate. As far as I am concerned, these assertions are misleading for it overemphasizes the role of subjective in the process of observation. And I believe that there dose exit （exist?） purely and partly objective observation.

I concede that many observations are subjective. When an observation is proceeding, the observer will inevitably use his or her experiences and knowledge. For example, watching the same blue sky, children might imagine that there must live some deity and pilots may think that it be a good day to fly. (有点小疑惑，但是他们看到的都是蓝色天空啊，只是产生的想法不同而已，但是观察结果是一样的啊) Hearing the same piece of music, musician may tell you how sweetness it is. But as to a painter it may be noisy and boring. In some circumstances, the observer may also be guided by the observer’s expectations or desires with or without intention. Ample examples in history demonstrate that. For example, in Aristotle’s eyes, heavy things fall faster than light ones. （这个不是他观察结果吧，应该是推测的结果吧）  

However, there do exist some other observations that are mainly or even purely objective. As mentioned above, we view our world with our experience and knowledge that we got in the past. In the process of observation, if we use the same correct experiences and knowledge, we do reach a same correct conclusion and we call this observation is a （an） objective observation. For instance, we can measure the weight of an elephant and an ant with balance and reach a conclusion that an elephant weights over than an ant. That is a purely objective observation. We now also know that the sun is bigger than the earth and the earth is moving around the sun. All of this knowledge is the results of objective observation. It is by numerous of this objective observation then we accumulate our knowledge and step by step construct our civilization and make us distinct from the rest of the creatures in the world. And now we still make our every effort to pursue objective observation.

In sum, although many observations are subjective, there do exit (exist?) purely objective observation. And it is by ceaselessly pursuing objective observations then we human being develop civilization and keep it go ahead. Overemphasize the role of subjective in the process of observation will inevitably lead to nihilism.

我个人觉得字数还是偏少了一点，毕竟400字左右的ISSUE要得高分难度很大，除非论证逻辑等特别强！
加油啊，good luck to u!