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TOPIC: ISSUE144 - "It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value."

*a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings, etc.
WORDS: 769          TIME: 0:50:00          DATE: 2007-6-22

Is it that the critic who evaluates works of art creates more value for the society than the artist? While I fundamentally agree with the speaker's assertion on the basis that the pieces of art works composed by the artist give society something of lasting value, I still hold the conviction that ,as well as the artist, the critic provide the society huge assets with great value.

First and foremost, the artist creates numerous great value for the society in the aspects both mental wealth and material wealth. As all of us experienced, when we watch a play that is deeply moral, we see ourselves in the characters, we recognized out own destinies in the plot, and we find the moral dilemma of the action to be representative of problems in all human relationships. It intensives people to have a comprehensive through about what could be reformed of their lives and society they lived, so that the qualifications of personal improve and the society develops. There are many examples in this point. Alighieri Dante, for instance, whose work---- Divine Comedy espoused the corruption of the medieval society dominated by the religion was one of the representatives in early age of Renaissance. And the Renaissance had been considered greatly change the whole situation of the European continent with it revolution in scientific and artistic aspects.  On the other hand, see the Hollywood as example, which produces huge proceeds from its film industry. With producing more and higher quality films, Hollywood creates huge numbers of employment for the entertainment industry.
Thus, the large quantity of mental wealth and material wealth could be considered as the value created by the artist for our society.

Nevertheless, although the value of art works are given by the artists themselves, the critic who evaluates these works also play an important role in maintaining and improving such values. At times, the artists themselves are critics. For example, Victor Hugo, one of the most famous poetry, novelist, critic, and the most influential exponent of the Romantic movement in France. While insisting his own standpoint, Hugo's poetic and dramatic outputs also criticized other literary works with different statement with his. The progress is also a new composing procedure as the artist initial do. Actually, the different exist between a critic and an artist is just for the reason that each of the two holds different views to a matter. What they should do and want to do is testify that their own opinions or theories are correct, and then evaluate others' works as a so-called "critic" do is the most effective and direct way. Both of them offer the society with value because they both using critical thinking to demonstrate the things happened in the society. And the readers who with the help of critics, whose deputes between critics and artists could more easy to have a deep and comprehensive recognition with the works and the society. The critics  do as what the artists do to be a bridge to help people made a determination among so many works and matters existed in the society. This is what the value of citric gives for the society.

Also, we should not neglect the possibly that the critic would be utilized by the social purpose or be neglected at times. The article is the weapon of the writers, which is insignificant at first glance, but it is the strength tool could have impact on the masses mind. Therefore, once there are works challenge the intention of authorities, the critics would be the army of authorities in the masses thought battle field to maintenance ruler's avail. At this time, it is entirely possible that the articles are departure from the objective topic but only a words battle with no value to the society. On the other hand, the critics also be combined with their own religious thought or understandability. One apt illustration of my contention is the experience of Vangogh. During his time, Vangogh's works were hardly praised by critics and none of them sold for good price, and were criticized as lack of basic knowledge of painting. But after several years, Vangogh's one piece of art work can be priced up to thousands of millions of dollars.

In sum, the correct attitude to the artists and critics is to strike a balance. Admittedly, the artists, in their works of art, give birth to some lasting value that adds to the society's value and art system. On the other hand, the critic is also indispensable in the way in which they help the public and maintain the value of art works.


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Is it that the critic who evaluates works of art creates more value for the society than the artist?与题目反了 While I fundamentally agree with the speaker's assertion on the basis that the pieces of art works composed by the artist give society something of lasting value, I still hold the conviction that ,as well as the artist, the critic provide the society huge assets with great value.

First and foremost, the artist creates numerous great value for the society in the aspects both mental wealth and material wealth. As all of us experienced, when we watch a play that is deeply moral, we see ourselves in the characters, we recognized out own destinies in the plot, and we find the moral dilemma of the action to be representative of problems in all human relationships. It intensives--->intensifies people to have a comprehensive through about what could be reformed of their lives and society they lived, so that the qualifications of personal improve and the society develops. There are many examples in this point. Alighieri Dante--->Dante Alighieri, for instance, whose work---- Divine Comedy espoused the corruption of the medieval society dominated by the religion was one of the representatives in early age of Renaissance. And the Renaissance had been considered greatly change the whole situation of the European continent with it revolution in scientific and artistic aspects.  On the other hand, see the Hollywood as example, which produces huge proceeds from its film industry. With producing more and higher quality films, Hollywood creates huge numbers of employment for the entertainment industry.

Thus, the large quantity of mental wealth and material wealth could be considered as the value created by the artist for our society. body1写艺术的作用,例子举得不错


Nevertheless, although the value of art works are given by the artists themselves, the critic who evaluates these works also play an important role in maintaining and improving such values. At times, the artists themselves are critics. For example, Victor Hugo, one of the most famous poetry, novelist, critic, and the most influential exponent of the Romantic movement in France. While insisting his own standpoint, Hugo's poetic and dramatic outputs also criticized other literary works with different statement with his. The progress is also a new composing procedure as the artist initial do. Actually, the different exist between a critic and an artist is just for the reason that each of the two holds different views to a matter. 逻辑出错了,critic并不是和artist持相反观点,评价Mona Lisa的critics难道和Leonardo Da Vinci有不同意见?What they should do and want to do is testify that their own opinions or theories are correct, and then evaluate others' works as a so-called "critic" do is the most effective and direct way. Both of them offer the society with value because they both using critical thinking to demonstrate the things happened in the society. And the readers who with the help of critics, whose deputes--->disputes between critics and artists could more easy to have a deep and comprehensive recognition with the works and the society. The critics  do as what the artists do to be a bridge to help people made a determination among so many works and matters existed in the society. This is what the value of citric gives for the society.

Also, we should not neglect the possibly that the critic would be utilized by the social purpose or be neglected at times. The article is the weapon of the writers, which is insignificant at first glance, but it is the strength tool could have impact on the masses mind. Therefore, once there are works challenge the intention of authorities, the critics would be the army of authorities in the masses thought battle field to maintenance ruler's avail. At this time, it is entirely possible that the articles are departure from the objective topic but only a words battle with no value to the society. On the other hand, the critics also be combined with their own religious thought or understandability. One apt illustration of my contention is the experience of Vangogh. During his time, Vangogh's works were hardly praised by critics and none of them sold for good price, and were criticized as lack of basic knowledge of painting. But after several years, Vangogh's one piece of art work can be priced up to thousands of millions of dollars.这段写critics有可能的坏处,建议再多放些笔墨和ever lasting value联系起来

In sum, the correct attitude to the artists and critics is to strike a balance. Admittedly, the artists, in their works of art, give birth to some lasting value that adds to the society's value and art system. On the other hand, the critic is also indispensable in the way in which they help the public and maintain the value of art works.

观点挺清晰,50分钟769字,楼主潜力无穷啊。。。

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Is it that the critic who evaluates works of art creates more value for the society than the artist? While I fundamentally agree with the speaker's assertion on the basis that the pieces of art works composed by the artist give society something of lasting value, I still hold the conviction that ,as well as the artist, the critic provide the society huge assets with great value. 反问的句式改写的挺好。另,和题目反了也无所谓,你也没说'just as the speaker asserts'。

First and foremost, the artist creates numerous great value for the society in the aspects both mental wealth and material wealth. (我觉得这种开头对于topic的response不够direct。。。题目是在讨论到底是谁对于永恒价值作出贡献,而你的开头说了artist对于社会在于什么方面作出了贡献。。。虽然related但是还不够直接,让读者感觉你对于题目的把握不够准。)As all of us experienced, when we watch a play that is deeply moral, we see ourselves in the characters, we recognized out own destinies in the plot, and we find the moral dilemma of the action to be representative of problems in all human relationships. (没看到和artist的直接关联。本文不需要过多讨论艺术如何给人价值,而是要讨论artist v.s. critic)It intensives people to have a comprehensive through about what could be reformed of their lives and society they lived, so that the qualifications of personal improve and the society develops. (still beat around the bush)There are many examples in this point. Alighieri Dante, for instance, whose work---- Divine Comedy espoused the corruption of the medieval society dominated by the religion was one of the representatives in early age of Renaissance. And the Renaissance had been considered greatly change the whole situation of the European continent with it revolution in scientific and artistic aspects.  On the other hand, see the Hollywood as example, which produces huge proceeds from its film industry. With producing more and higher quality films, Hollywood creates huge numbers of employment for the entertainment industry.
Thus, the large quantity of mental wealth and material wealth could be considered as the value created by the artist for our society. 如果本文的topic是说artist创造了很多价值,lz的论证非常ok。但是既然提到了是artist单独pk critic,这种论证方式就很成问题

Nevertheless, although the value of art works are given by the artists themselves, (事实上你对于这句话的论证基本没有)the critic who evaluates these works also play an important role in maintaining and improving such values. At times, the artists themselves are critics. For example, Victor Hugo, one of the most famous poetry, novelist, critic, and the most influential exponent of the Romantic movement in France. While insisting his own standpoint, Hugo's poetic and dramatic outputs also criticized other literary works with different statement with his. The progress is also a new composing procedure as the artist initial do. Actually, the different exist between a critic and an artist is just for the reason that each of the two holds different views to a matter. (这句话本身很精髓,不过和前面的论证似乎关系不大)What they (指代不清楚,姑且认为是critic)should do and want to do is testify that their own opinions or theories are correct, and then evaluate others' works as a so-called "critic" do is the most effective and direct way. Both of them offer the society with value because they both using critical thinking to demonstrate the things happened in the society. And the readers who with the help of critics, whose deputes between critics and artists could more easy to have a deep and comprehensive recognition with the works and the society. The critics  do as what the artists do to be a bridge to help people made a determination among so many works and matters existed in the society. This is what the value of citric gives for the society. 红字是我觉得读了很有深度的话。但是整个段落欠条理,不是很明晰

Also, we should not neglect the possibly that the critic would be utilized by the social purpose or be neglected at times. (没看懂)The article is the weapon of the writers, which is insignificant at first glance, but it is the strength tool could have impact on the masses mind. (同上)Therefore, once there are works challenge the intention of authorities, the critics would be the army of authorities in the masses thought battle field to maintenance ruler's avail. At this time, it is entirely possible that the articles are departure from the objective topic but only a words battle with no value to the society. (终于看懂了,想说critic的坏处~开头点清楚一点吧)On the other hand, the critics also be combined with their own religious thought or understandability. (so what?你与题目相关的观念是什么?)One apt illustration of my contention is the experience of Vangogh. During his time, Vangogh's works were hardly praised by critics and none of them sold for good price, and were criticized as lack of basic knowledge of painting. But after several years, Vangogh's one piece of art work can be priced up to thousands of millions of dollars. (没觉得例子支持了论断,有点不知所云的一个段落。)

In sum, the correct attitude to the artists and critics is to strike a balance. Admittedly, the artists, in their works of art, give birth to some lasting value that adds to the society's value and art system. On the other hand, the critic is also indispensable in the way in which they help the public and maintain the value of art works.


lz的思想深度和语言水平都不错。但是条理性确实不好。
anyway这个算是lz早期的作品了。没有及时去改是我的错误。sorry。

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