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7"The video camera provides such an accurate and convincing record of contemporary life that it has become a more important form of documentation than written records."

The record of life includes human’s appearance, language, mentality, behavior and the environment around us. It is video that uses measures to reproduce realistic to help us memorize the past, however, characters, depicted and summarized our life. The most distinction between them is the technique they use to represent the foretime. With the rapid development of technology, simply written words cannot record our colorful life at all facets, and to some extent, video camera can remedy the deficiency, therefore the video camera become increasingly vital in recording area.


Admittedly, as a way we are familiar with, written records witnessed ourselves grow from wild man to model human, thanks to written records, we can easily know it by finding out some words about the life of our ancestors or what exactly happened in the past. Moreover, words can be expressed a summarization of history, and what people really thought about the past. What's more, when something was written down, it cannot be changed, and as time goes by, the written documents are convenient to get. We are not required some tools to exhibit them, but just find and translate the past words to the present.

Nevertheless despite the words cannot be tampered after they have been stuck down, people's personal slants can easily impact them. For example, as we all know, the history about a dynasty is just a history what the emperor want to be. The king or emperor always gives stresses on historians whose duty is to record. Hence, what the generation would know from the written records often were what the authority or the author want people to see. On the contrary, without direct manipulation of human itself, video camera can reflect what had happened truly. People who play the role in recording can do nothing more than set up facilities, turning on the power, waiting for video to record. Though sometimes dissimilar visual angles the record man selected can give expression to different aspects of a truth, it is more correct and objective than the words' way.

Meanwhile, video camera records are convenient to reserve; it only costs a small and dry room to reserve the tape, while the words need a book and a large space. What is vital is that picture and film are the common things which all the people who know a few about the world can accept and understand. We are not in need of the meaning of profound words in the past, and all human beings share nearly the same informed ability of people appearance, psychology, environment which certainly can reflect by films or pictures. The common view of pictures is merely changed with differences in eras and areas. Take Maya culture for instance, we primary study it not with the complicate words but the picture and painting about them. So, imagine that contemporary life will become old culture like Maya, when people in the future may have difficulties to know our words, why not remain pictures and films for them?

In sum, with the rapid development of technology, video camera will become increasing indispensible, while we cannot record without words. That is to say, only can we express a brilliant contemporary to the future, when both of records are combined together.
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The record of life includes human’s appearance, language, mentality, behavior and the environment around us. It is video that uses measures to reproduce realistic to help us memorize the past, however, characters, depicted and summarized our life. The most distinction between them is the technique they use to represent the foretime. With the rapid development of technology, simply written words cannot record our colorful life at all facets, and to some extent, video camera can remedy the deficiency, therefore the video camera become increasingly vital in recording area.

Admittedly, as a way we are familiar with, written records witnessed ourselves grow from wild man to model human, thanks to written records, we can easily know it by finding out some words about the life of our ancestors or what exactly happened in the past. Moreover, words can be expressed a summarization of history, and what people really thought about the past. What's more, when something was written down, it cannot be changed, and as time goes by, the written documents are convenient to get. We are not required some tools to exhibit them,(这句,是想表达啥意思?) but just find and translate the past words to the present.

Nevertheless despite the words cannot be tampered after they have been stuck down, people's personal slants can easily impact them. For example, as we all know, the history about a dynasty is just a history what the emperor want to be. The king or emperor always gives stresses on historians whose duty is to record. Hence, what the generation would know from the written records often were what the authority or the author want people to see. On the contrary, without direct manipulation of human itself, video camera can reflect what had happened truly. People who play the role in recording can do nothing more than set up facilities, turning on the power, waiting for video to record. Though sometimes dissimilar visual angles the record man selected can give expression to different aspects of a truth, it is more correct and objective than the words' way.关于这段的点我觉得可以更扩展一些,毕竟题目是把二者放在contemperary下来比较,所以只是用过去的文字记载和现在的图像记录来比较会不会单一了?

Meanwhile, video camera records are convenient to reserve; it only costs a small and dry room to reserve the tape, while the words need a book and a large space. What is vital is that picture and film are the common things which all the people who know a few about the world can accept and understand. We are not in need of the meaning of profound words in the past, and all human beings share nearly the same informed ability of people appearance, psychology, environment which certainly can reflect by films or pictures. The common view of pictures is merely changed with differences in eras and areas. Take Maya culture for instance, we primary study it not with the complicate words but the picture and painting about them. So, imagine that contemporary life will become old culture like Maya, when people in the future may have difficulties to know our words, why not remain pictures and films for them?这个论证不错

In sum, with the rapid development of technology, video camera will become increasing indispensible, while we cannot record without words. That is to say, only can we express a brilliant contemporary to the future, when both of records are combined together

用词不错,想法也比较好
这里有一个问题,我在写作的时候有考虑过,就是关于论证“more important”的问题,如果逻辑是“因为有这样那样的优点所以更重要”会不会缺少了中间某些环节?可以跟我探讨下这个问题么~~~

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红字我想表达的是影像需要借助些工具来表达,而文字可以直接阅读~~ 如果将来制造芯片的某种东西没有了,影像就难以被大多数人所阅读,但是文字,只要有眼睛,就可以看哈~~

那个例子,嗯的确可以再扩展一下,但是我实在是不想放弃那个君王之历史的例子啊。。不过也许可以增加个溥仪事件的,和现在报刊的记录状况~~
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The record of life includes human’s appearance, language, mentality, behavior and the environment around us(这个很赞,上来先给自己认为的关键 字定义). It is video that uses measures to reproduce realistic to help us memorize the past, however, characters(额。。。这个词用的有待商榷,它是单纯地指文字么?疑问), depicted and summarized our life. The most distinction between them is the technique they use to represent the foretime. With the rapid development of technology, simply written words cannot record our colorful life at all facets, and to some extent, video camera can remedy the deficiency, therefore the video camera become increasingly vital in recording area(很喜欢这种开头就亮明观点).

Admittedly, as a way we are familiar with, written records witnessed ourselves grow from wild man to model human, thanks to written records, we can easily know it by finding out some words about the life of our ancestors or what exactly happened in the past. Moreover, words can be expressed a summarization of history, and what people really thought about the past. What's more, when something was written down, it cannot be changed, and as time goes by, the written documents are convenient to get. We are not required some tools to exhibit them, but just find and translate the past words to the present.
Nevertheless(此处衔接很好与上段首词对应,很连贯的感觉)
despite the words cannot be tampered after they have been stuck down, people's personal slants can easily impact them. For example, as we all know, the history about a dynasty is just a history what the emperor want to be. The king or emperor always gives stresses on historians whose duty is to record. Hence, what the generation would know from the written records often were what the authority or the author want people to see. On the contrary, without direct manipulation of human itself, video camera can reflect what had happened truly.(这个例子窃以为不太恰当,古人的历史记录确实有君主干涉的成分,但大部分还是属实的,况且,你不能拿一个没有video camera的时代和今天比啊,这个比较是不能说明viedo的好处的) People who play the role in recording can do nothing more than set up facilities, turning on the power, waiting for video to record. Though sometimes dissimilar visual angles the record man selected can give expression to different aspects of a truth, it is more correct and objective than the words' way.(额。。。这里我不同意了,video也可以造假的说,你这样说显然有点片面,没有想全)
Meanwhile,
video camera records are convenient to reserve; it only costs a small and dry room to reserve the tape, while the words need a book and a large space(这个比较不太能说服人啊,事实上现在的文字保存都数字化了,那些需要你说的那种保存的东西都是古人的真迹啥的,再者其实这俩东西的保管都不那么方便,要保管好都得花点功夫). What is vital is that picture and film are the common things which all the people who know a few about the world can accept and understand(这个观点很新颖,赞,我米想到). We are not in need of the meaning of profound words in the past, and all human beings share nearly the same informed ability of people appearance, psychology, environment which certainly can reflect by films or pictures. The common view of pictures is merely changed with differences in eras and areas. Take Maya culture for instance, we primary study it not with the complicate words but the picture and painting(你这里的观点说明你混淆了一个问题:video&image,关于video,WIKI上如是说:Video is the technology of electronically capturing, recording, processing, storing, transmitting, and reconstructing a sequence of still images representing scenes in motion.
所以你这个例子用的不错,但说的不对,和你要证明的不相干)
about them. So, imagine that contemporary life will become old culture like Maya, when people in the future may have difficulties to know our words, why not remain pictures and films for them?(这里我再次反对一个:你这里为了说明video的重要性而贬written record贬地不太好,题目的问题是究竟谁更重要?难道那些我们看不懂的古文字就不重要么?对记录当时人们的生活不重要么?你这里只是讲了个谁更容易被接受的问题,而没有提到重要性,窃以为,对古代的记录还真是文字更重要,因为文字是真正的当时的人创造的,而那些图啊电影啊都是人们根据这些文字想象出来的,如果没有当时文字的记录,我们去哪里了解他们?其实这里面是这样的:古时文字的记录(大众看不懂)==)历史学家专业人士分析翻译(大众理解了)===》为了广泛普及,画出图,拍出电影。你说哪个更重要?)

In sum, with the rapid development of technology, video camera will become increasing indispensible, while we cannot record without words. That is to say, only can we express a brilliant contemporary to the future, when both of records are combined together.

Summary:语言很好很流畅,也没什么语法错误,语言基本功很强啊,学习学习!文章结构很清晰,上下衔接的也好
开始看你这个文就有点担心,因为倒向video这方其实很不好说,你这里就没把我说服,看了半天自己一分析发现还是written records比较强啊
有啥问题尽管揪米饭来问昂,再次对你的语言膜拜一个!
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1.是单纯指文字。
2.古人的例子,想到一种更好的方式。每个新的朝代的建立都把修改史书放在第一位,这不难看出君王都愿意牵涉,或者直接左右后代的评论。
3,从地震中可看出,许多历史记载其实还没有被好好保存~但是,如果影像资料上传至网络硬盘。除了全球几台总服务器崩盘,一般不会受损。
4。我没查wiki>所有的定义都是我瞎掰的~~谢谢告诉我。
5.逻辑又出现致命错误~~~~我对自己的逻辑再次无语。
我想表达,即使没有文字,我们也容易通过图像来了解过去。
附。我将这次写的2篇的提纲发上来了,有空帮我看看逻辑~~能否说服你? 哈哈~谢谢了。
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1、好的,学习啦
2、为啥一定要 举古人的例子呢?这个逻辑有问题啊,你现在是要证明written records的缺点不假,但你证明这个的目的是啥?还不是为了说明video有优势,但试问,那个时代有video么??你这个把一个不存在video的时代拿来做好坏的对比是米意义的。
3、如果从这个角度说是可以的
4、客气啦~
5、米问题啦~八过米饭滴逻辑也很一般,希望不要误导你才好
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2。赞。很有道理~~~!!因为我想到这个立场就是因为想到古代君王的例子。所以~~

提纲已发,劳驾抽空批批~谢谢
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额。。。。。。。给个链接。。。。。。。
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7"The video camera provides such an accurate and convincing record of contemporary life that it has become a more important form of documentation than written records."

The record of life includes human’s appearance, language, mentality, behavior and the environment around us. It is video that uses measures to reproduce realistic to help us memorize the past, however, characters, depicted and summarized our life. The most distinction between them is the technique they use to represent the foretime. With the rapid development of technology, simply written words cannot record our colorful life at all facets, and to some extent, video camera can remedy the deficiency, therefore the video camera become increasingly vital in recording area.(最好在这里举个例子,哪些方面只有video可以而written records却不行呢?要不然没有说服力,因为没有有力的事实做你的后盾^^)

Admittedly, as a way we are familiar with, written records witnessed ourselves grow from wild man to model human(喜欢这个感觉^^), thanks to written records, we can easily know it by finding out some words about the life of our ancestors or what exactly happened in the past. Moreover, words can be expressed a summarization of history, and what people really thought about the past. What's more, when something was written down, it cannot be changed, and as time goes by, the written documents are convenient to get. We are not required some tools to exhibit them, but just find and translate the past words to the present.文字真的是很神奇的东西啊~喜欢这一段^^


Nevertheless despite the words cannot be tampered after they have been stuck down, people's personal slants can easily impact them. For example, as we all know, the history about a dynasty is just a history what the emperor want to be. The king or emperor always gives stresses on historians whose duty is to record. Hence, what the generation would know from the written records often were what the authority or the author want people to see. On the contrary, without direct manipulation of human itself, video camera can reflect what had happened truly. People who play the role in recording can do nothing more than set up facilities, turning on the power, waiting for video to record. Though sometimes dissimilar visual angles the record man selected can give expression to different aspects of a truth, it is more correct and objective than the words' way.嗯,只能说它比文字精确,不能说它精确。

Meanwhile, video camera records are convenient to reserve; it only costs a small and dry room to reserve the tape, while the words need a book and a large space. What is vital is that picture and film are the common things which all the people who know a few about the world can accept and understand. We are not in need of the meaning of profound words in the past, and all human beings share nearly the same informed ability of people appearance, psychology, environment which certainly can reflect by films or pictures. The common view of pictures is merely changed with differences in eras and areas. Take Maya culture for instance, we primary study it not with the complicate words but the picture and painting about them. So, imagine that contemporary life will become old culture like Maya, when people in the future may have difficulties to know our words, why not remain pictures and films for them? 我突然想到可以从video camera是对古代“图像”领域的一种延伸。文字和图像……嗯,让我有点新的想法^^ 另外就是,这段话开头说的是保存问题,可是后面却又谈到了图像问题和文字的难以传承性。个人觉得这个不要放在一起说比较好吧?可以分成两个分论点,分别说一下。放在一起有点杂糅的感觉。^^

In sum, with the rapid development of technology, video camera will become increasing indispensible, while we cannot record without words. That is to say, only can we express a brilliant contemporary to the future, when both of records are combined together.combine?就是说两个都不可偏废是吧?韦氏:to bring into such close relationship as to obscure individual characters 感觉这里用这个词还是不太对劲……

Tracy整体写的感觉很不错哦^^语言很好~就是感觉,那个结构更严谨一点,分段明确一点,然后把句子之间的结构更清洗一下就更好了^^有什么问题我们在讨论啊Tracy亲^^

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7"The video camera provides such an accurate and convincing record of contemporary life that it has become a more important form of documentation than written records."

The record of life includes human’s appearance, language, mentality, behavior and the environment around us. It is video that uses measures to reproduce realistic to help us memorize the past, however, characters, depicted and summarized our life. The most distinction between them is the technique they use to represent the foretime. With the rapid development of technology, simply written words cannot record our colorful life at all facets, and to some extent
s, video camera can remedy the deficiency, therefore the video camera become increasingly vital in recording area.(最好在这里举个例子,哪些方面只有video可以而written records却不行呢?要不然没有说服力,因为没有有力的事实做你的后盾^^因为我的7开头举例子,大家说还是不好。所以~我也不知道该不该开头就拿例子啊

Admittedly, as a way we are familiar with, written records witnessed ourselves
grow from wild man to model human(喜欢这个感觉^^, thanks to written records, we can easily know it(get knowledge) by finding out some words about the life of our ancestors or what exactly happened in the past. Moreover, words can be expressed as a summarization of history, and what people really thought about the past. What's more, when something was written down, it cannot be changed, and as time goes by, the written documents are always convenient to get. We are not required some tools to exhibit them, but just find and translate the past words to the present.文字真的是很神奇的东西啊~喜欢这一段^^
Nevertheless despite the words cannot be tampered after they have been stuck down, people's personal slants can easily impact them. For example, as we all know, the history about a dynasty is just a history what the emperor want to be. The king or emperor always gives stresses on historians whose duty is to record. Hence, what the generation would know from the written records often were what the authority or the author want people to see. On the contrary, without direct manipulation of human itself, video camera can reflect what had happened truly. People who play the role in recording can do nothing more than set up facilities, turning on the power, waiting for video to record. Though sometimes dissimilar visual angles the record man selected can give expression to different aspects of a truth, it is more correct and objective than the words' way.嗯,只能说它比文字精确,不能说它精确。

Meanwhile, video camera records are convenient to reserve; it only costs a small and dry room to reserve the tape, while the words need a book and a large space. Moreover, what is vital is that picture and film are the common things which all the people who know a few about the world can accept and understand. We are not in need of the meaning of profound words in the past, and all human beings share nearly the same informed ability of people appearance, psychology, environment which certainly can reflect by films or pictures. The common view of pictures is merely changed with differences in eras and areas. Taking Maya’s culture for instance, we primary study it not with the complicate words but the picture and painting about them. So, imagine that contemporary life will become old culture like Maya, when people in the future may have difficulties to know our words, why not remain pictures and films for them?
我突然想到可以从video camera是对古代图像领域的一种延伸。文字和图像……嗯,让我有点新的想法^^ 另外就是,这段话开头说的是保存问题,可是后面却又谈到了图像问题和文字的难以传承性。个人觉得这个不要放在一起说比较好吧?可以分成两个分论点,分别说一下。放在一起有点杂糅的感觉。^^XDF的老师说如果有2小点,可以放在一起写。也许我的连结词还得改。谢谢。

In sum, with the rapid development of technology, video camera will become increasing indispensible, while we cannot record without words. That is to say, only can we express a brilliant contemporary to the future, when both of records are combined together
exerting together. combine?就是说两个都不可偏废是吧?韦氏:to bring into such close relationship as to obscure individual characters 感觉这里用这个词还是不太对劲……
嗯,说得好。
Tracy整体写的感觉很不错哦^^语言很好~就是感觉,那个结构更严谨一点,分段明确一点,然后把句子之间的结构更清洗一下就更好了^^有什么问题我们在讨论啊Tracy^^

感觉阁下改得很有道理,我自己看少了~谢谢
那些无法击垮我的东西,只会使我更加强大.

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