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发表于 2009-6-6 10:39:34 |显示全部楼层
也是 0910aw [同主题写作]第四期作业
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发表于 2009-6-6 10:43:04 |显示全部楼层
144 "It is the artist, not the critic,* who gives society something of lasting value."
*a person who evaluates works of art, such as novels, films, music, paintings, etc. "
是艺术家而不是批评家,带给社会一些具有持久价值的东西。*批评家指经常评价艺术作品,例如小说、电影、音乐、绘画等的人。

提纲:
1.  艺术家重要
2. 时间才赋予lasting value
3. 评论家重要
4. 时间才赋予lasting value
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发表于 2009-6-6 10:43:40 |显示全部楼层
While artists create, critics evaluate. While artists express, critics interpret. Contribution of neither artists nor critics is indispensible, since they enhance our appreciation for and the value of beauty and esthetics of our society. However, as for the lasting value of society, time is the ultimate judge and contributor in my view.
Disputably, it is the artists that bring all the art works into existence. No art works automatically come into being by themselves without artists. Without composer, phonetic symbols would not turn into tunes; without painter, lines and colors would transform into a painting; without poet, letters would not array in the order of rhythms. Thus, with talent and skills, artists arrange all the fraction of their emotion and ideology into a piece of combination that can reflect social idea and humanity. Admittedly, what artists bring to the field of art and our whole society is priceless.
However, pricelessness doesn’t equate lasting value. It is time that does the vital job of eliciting the lasting value of a piece of art, rather than artists creates it. During the development of human history, there is a prodigious number of art works flourishing out, and time is the best testing system to decide which piece holds the lasting value and which does not. In the testing out process, a myriad of art works have been deposited under the time sea and never been recognized or remembered, let alone bring lasting value to society. On the other hand, lasting value of master pieces has been tested and proved over and over throughout history: people keep flowing to Paris to cast a glance at the smile of Mona Lisa; Moonlight Sonata has inspired generations and been imitated or recomposed by countless admirers; the genius of Hamlet has revised into numerous versions of movies and plays. Artist create valuable art, time entitles it the lasting value.
Meanwhile, critics makes their contribution with professional esthetics and systemic criteria. They help common people to understand and appreciate the internal meaning of art, and filter those good ones that truly deserve our time and investment. For instance, a good movie review is a very helpful guide when audiences spend time and dollars in a theater, and art cristics' insightful opinion is an important reference on art collectors' investment choices. There is no doubt the role critics play is prominent, but where is the lasting value in those circumstances?
Also, as far as the lasting value of society is concerned, it is still time, and only time can examine and give a piece of criticism its lasting value. Lasting value of criticism lies in coaching numerous unborn generation how to appreciate art, assisting historians to study a specific period, pushing the world of art onto another level. And all of these need time to realize. When British critics first used the term “pop art”, who would predict the word “pop” has become such a buzzword half century later? Moreover, art can be very abstract and abstruse to grasp the real meaning within, despite all the professional knowledge a critics masters. With different angle, different culture background or different personal experience, critics can hardly agree with each other on a same piece of art for so many times, and that’s where contradiction and prejudice on a certain school or piece of art originate. Fortunately, time can wash them out and give back an art or artist a fair name. Taking Impressionism for instance, its works were dismissed and harshly criticized then, but now they are highly venerated. Thus, critics offer referable and valuable, and sometimes misleading criticism, but time elicits the lasting value out of it.
To sum up, few will dispute the indispensability of artists and critics, for they have significant impact on course of society progressing and history shaping. However, time is the real master of identifying and projecting the lasting value of art and cristicism.
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发表于 2009-6-9 15:57:45 |显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 gabyw 于 2009-6-9 16:28 编辑

While artists create, critics evaluate. While artists express, critics interpret. (这是彦语写作形式吗?我怎么没见过啊?)Contribution of neither artists nor critics is indispensible,(艺术家和评论家的贡献都不是必不可少,就是说可有可无了,是要表达这个意思吗) since they enhance our appreciation for (?什么意思?)and the value of beauty and esthetics of our society. However, as for the lasting value of society, time is the ultimate judge and contributor in my view. (good!)


Disputably(我见你用过好几次了,表示讨论有余的,你见过文章那个中有这样的用法吗?), it is the artists that
whobring all the art works into existence.good!强调句型) No art works automatically come into being by themselves without artists. Without composerif it were not for the composer , phonetic symbols would not be turned into tunes; without painterwith little help of painter, lines and colors would not be transformed into a painting; Without poet, letters would not be arrayed in the order of rhythms. (这样三个排比句看起来就比较牛了,你觉得呢?) Thus, with talent and skills, artists arrange all the fraction of their emotion and ideology into a piece of combination that can reflect social idea and humanity. Admittedly, what artists bring to the field of art and our whole society is priceless.(good)


However, pricelessness(没有名词形式) doesn’t equate lasting value这句不好,太中式了). It is time that does the vital job of eliciting the lasting value of a piece of art, rather than artists create it. During the development of human history, there is a prodigious number of art works flourishing out, and time is the best testing system to decide which piece holds the lasting value and which does not. In the testing out process, a myriad of art works have been deposited under the time sea and never been recognized or remembered, let alone bring lasting value to society. On the other hand, lasting value of master pieces has been tested and proved over and over throughout history: people keep flowing to Paris to cast a glance at the smile of Mona Lisa; Moonlight Sonata has inspired generations and been imitated or recomposed by countless admirers; the genius of Hamlet has revised into numerous versions of movies and plays. Artist create valuable art, time entitles it the lasting valuegood point!!).


Meanwhile, critics make their contribution with professional esthetics and systemic criteria. They help commonD people to understand and appreciate the internal meaning of art, and filter those good(过滤掉好的?)ones that truly deserve our time and investment(这个句子有问题吧,没有间接宾语啊,值得我们的时间和投资???). For instance, a good movie review is a very helpful guide when audiences spend time and dollars in a theater, and art cristics' insightful opinion is an important reference on art collectors' investment choices. There is no doubt the role critics play is prominent, but where is the lasting value in those circumstances?(不太能理解??)


Also, as far as the lasting value of society is concerned, it is still time, and only time can examine and give a piece of criticism its lasting valueonly time can make a piece of criticism has its own lasting value. Lasting value of criticism lies in(有问题吧,这么表达) coaching 辅导,可以这么形容吗,你确定吗,请问是你自己想的,还是看到过类似的表达?)numerous unborn generation how to appreciate art, assisting historians to study a specific period, pushing the world of art onto another level. And all of these need time to realize. When British critics first used the term “pop art”, who would predict the word “pop” has become such a buzzword half century later? Moreover, art can be very abstract and abstruse to grasp the real meaning within, despite all the professional knowledge a critics masters. With different angle, different culture background or different personal experience, critics can hardly agree with each other on a same piece of art for so many times, and that’s where contradiction and prejudice on a certain school or piece of art originate.(这个句子好长,我都搞不清楚他的成分?) Fortunately, time can wash them out and give back an art or artist a fair name. “Taking Impressionism for instance, its works were dismissed and harshly criticized then, but now they are highly venerated. Thus, critics offer referable and valuable, and sometimes misleading criticism, but time elicits the lasting value out of it.


To sum up, few will dispute the indispensability of artists and critics, for they have significant impact on course of social progressing and history shaping(这个句子你确定对吗,for表原因但是可以当连词用吗,few 做主语,什么意思?). However, time is the real master(用who定语从句吧,master后面接 of 感觉很奇怪啊 of identifying and projecting the lasting value of art and criticism.

我赛:
好辛苦 啊,改作文!半条命快没了 我!:L
结构论据都还好,就是语言太难懂了,应该是我读不懂的缘故吧!

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发表于 2009-6-9 23:02:13 |显示全部楼层
While artists create, critics evaluate. While artists express, critics interpret. Contribution of neither artists nor critics is indispensible (二者都不是必需的吗?), since they enhance our appreciation for (需要for吗?)and the value of beauty and esthetics of our society. However, as for the lasting value of society, time is the ultimate judge and contributor in my view.
Disputably, it is the artists that bring all the art works into existence. No art works automatically come into being by themselves without artists. Without composer, phonetic symbols would not turn into tunes; without painter, lines and colors would transform into a painting; without poet, letters would not array in the order of rhythms. Thus, with talent and skills, artists arrange all the fraction (fractions) of their emotion and ideology into a piece of combination that can reflect social idea and humanity. Admittedly, what artists bring to the field of art and our whole society is priceless.
However, pricelessness doesn’t equate lasting value. It is time that does the vital job of eliciting the lasting value of a piece of art, rather than artists creates it. During the development of human history, there is a prodigious number of art works flourishing out, and time is the best testing system to decide which piece holds the lasting value and which does not. In the testing out process, a myriad of art works have been deposited under the time sea and never been recognized or remembered, let alone bring lasting value to society. On the other hand, lasting value of master pieces has been tested and proved over and over throughout history (over and over 与throughtout history有点重复): people keep flowing to Paris to cast a glance at the smile of Mona Lisa; Moonlight Sonata has inspired generations and has been imitated or recomposed by countless admirers; the genius of Hamlet has revised into numerous versions of movies and plays. Artist (Artists) create valuable art, time entitles it the lasting value.
Meanwhile, critics makes their contribution with professional esthetics and systemic criteria. They help common people to understand and appreciate the internal meaning of art, and filter (pick out) those good ones that truly deserve our time and investment. For instance, a good movie review is a very helpful guide when audiences spend time and dollars in a theater, and art cristics' insightful opinion is an important reference on art collectors' investment choices. There is no doubt the role critics play is prominent, but where is the lasting value in those circumstances?
Also, as far as the lasting value of society is concerned, it is still time, and only time can examine and give a piece of criticism its lasting value. Lasting value of criticism lies in coaching numerous unborn generation how to appreciate art, assisting historians to study a specific period (好), pushing the world of art onto another level. And all of these need time to realize (这个realize合适吗?我不清楚行不行。看到个例句,动词用的是witness:Life's Time– travel through history and witness the rhythms of the Earth.
最后一集的时移世易将探讨我们的时间见证人类如何经历时间,试看人类是否真能欺骗时间、倒时间。).
When British critics first used the term “pop art”, who would predict the word “pop” has become such a buzzword half century later? Moreover, art can be very abstract and abstruse to grasp the real meaning within, despite all the professional knowledge a critics masters. With different angle(angles), different culture background or different personal experience, critics can hardly agree with each other on a same piece of art for so many times, and that’s where contradiction and prejudice on a certain school or piece of art originate. Fortunately, time can wash them out and give back an art or artist a fair name. Taking Impressionism for instance, its works were dismissed and harshly criticized then, but now they are highly venerated. Thus, critics offer referable and valuable, and sometimes misleading criticism, but time elicits the lasting value out of it.
To sum up, few will dispute the indispensability of artists and critics, for they have significant impact on course of society progressing and history shaping. However, time is the real master of identifying and projecting the lasting value of art and cristicism.


有一点质疑,就是关于你的论点,认为不是艺术家,不是评论家,而是时间在赋予社会价值。时间是比较客观的事物,那些在历史浪潮中存留下来的东西也是在人类社会的作用下进行的选择吧。当然这是个人观点,仅供参考。

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发表于 2009-6-11 12:05:02 |显示全部楼层
While artists create, critics evaluate. While artists express, critics interpret.(特别好,一个面向A 一个面向P) Contribution of neither artists nor(这两个是不是用错了,我不能理解)) critics is indispensible, since they enhance our appreciation for and the value of beauty and esthetics of our society. However, as for the lasting value of society, time is the ultimate judge and contributor in my view.
这样写别出心裁(肯定) 但是我不敢确定是不是跑题。
不过这一段的语言表达还是很值得看的, 结构与提纲切合型很强。
Disputably, it is the artists that bring all the art works into existence. No art works automatically come into being by themselves without artists. Without composer, phonetic symbols would not turn into tunes; without painter, lines and colors would not transform into a painting; without poet, letters would not array in the order of rhythms. Thus, with talent and skills, artists arrange all the fraction of their emotion and ideology into a piece of combination that can reflect social idea and humanity. Admittedly, what artists bring to the field of art and our whole society is priceless.

However, pricelessness doesn’t equate lasting value. It is time that does the vital job of eliciting the lasting value of a piece of art, rather than artists creates it.(我觉得time 只是起到评判的作用,他并不能创造。没有创造,时间评判什么呢,而且你的第一段 也有提到,所以我觉得有点走题了,你下面的评论与这句话也不相符) During the development of human history, there is a prodigious number of art works flourishing out, and time is the best testing system to decide which piece holds the lasting value and which does not. In the testing out process, a myriad of art works have been deposited under the time sea and never been recognized or remembered, let alone bring lasting value to society. On the other hand, lasting value of master pieces has been tested and proved over and over throughout history: people keep flowing to Paris to cast a glance at the smile of Mona Lisa; Moonlight Sonata has inspired generations and been imitated or recomposed by countless admirers; the genius of Hamlet has revised into numerous versions of movies and plays. Artist create valuable art, time entitles it the lasting value.

Meanwhile, critics makes their contribution with professional esthetics and systemic criteria. They help common people to understand and appreciate the internal meaning of art, and filter those good ones that truly deserve our time and investment. For instance, a good movie review is a very helpful guide when audiences spend time and dollars in a theater, and art cristics' insightful opinion is an important reference on art collectors' investment choices. There is no doubt the role critics play is prominent, but where is the lasting value in those circumstances?

Also, as far as the lasting value of society is concerned, it is still time, and only time (that )can examine and give a piece of criticism its lasting value. Lasting value of criticism lies in coaching numerous unborn generation how to appreciate art, assisting historians to study a specific period, (and)pushing the world of art onto another level. And all of these need time to realize. When British critics first used the term “pop art”, who would predict the word “pop” has become such a buzzword half century later? Moreover, art can be very abstract and abstruse to grasp the real meaning within, despite all the professional knowledge a critics masters. With different angle, different culture background or different personal experience, critics can hardly agree with each other on a same piece of art for so many times, and that’s where contradiction and prejudice on a certain school or piece of art originate. Fortunately, time can wash them out and give back an art or artist a fair name. Taking Impressionism for instance, its works were dismissed and harshly criticized then, but now they are highly venerated. Thus, critics offer referable and valuable, and sometimes misleading criticism, but time elicits the lasting value out of it.

To sum up, few will dispute the indispensability of artists and critics, for they have significant impact on course of society progressing and history shaping. However, time is the real master of identifying and projecting the lasting value of art and cristicism.
PS:这篇文章 结构清晰,观点明确,就这篇文章,我觉得如果 倒数第二段能够精简之后 融合载 三四段里  那么三四段就很充实 和完美 但是现在这样 虽然看起来没什么大毛病,但是 很冗长 拖沓的感

令外,个人观点。作者没有明确定义 LV 或者载文章中也没显示出, 所以我有理由质问你不经过时间洗涤的作品 就没有LV 了吗   例如 :教育价值,美学价值,社会价值,等等

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发表于 2009-6-15 01:43:31 |显示全部楼层
While artists create, critics evaluate. While artists express, critics interpret. Contribution of neither artists nor critics is indispensible, since they enhance our appreciation for and the value of beauty and esthetics of our society. However, as for the lasting value of society, time is the ultimate judge and contributor in my view.

Disputably, it is the artists that bring all the art works into existence. No art works automatically come into being by themselves without artists. Without composer, phonetic symbols would not turn into tunes; without painter, lines and colors would transform into a painting; without poet, letters would not array in the order of rhythms. Thus, with talent and skills, artists arrange all the fraction of their emotion and ideology into a piece of combination that can reflect social idea and humanity. Admittedly, what artists bring to the field of art and our whole society is priceless.
这一段论证很清晰~

However, pricelessness doesn’t equate lasting value. It is time that does the vital job of eliciting the lasting value of a piece of art, rather than artists create it. During the development of human history, there is a prodigious number of art works flourishing out, and time is the best testing system to decide which piece holds the lasting value and which does not. In the testing out process, a myriad of art works have been deposited under the time sea and never been recognized or remembered, let alone bring lasting value to society. On the other hand, lasting value of master pieces has been tested and proved over and over throughout history: people keep flowing to Paris to cast a glance at the smile of Mona Lisa; Moonlight Sonata has inspired generations and been imitated or recomposed by countless admirers; the genius of Hamlet has revised into numerous versions of movies and plays. Artist create valuable art, time entitles it the lasting value.


Meanwhile, critics make their contribution with professional esthetics and systemic criteria. They help common people to understand and appreciate the internal meaning of art, and filter those good ones that truly deserve our time and investment. For instance, a good movie review is a very helpful guide when audiences spend time and dollars in a theater, and art critics' insightful opinion is an important reference on art collectors' investment choices. There is no doubt the role critics play is prominent, but where is the lasting value in those circumstances?
(最后这个问句有点唐突,作者很明显是在反问,不过这一段也没有怎么提lasting value, 所以这么一问有点砸自己脚的感觉)

Also, as far as the lasting value of society is concerned, it is still time, and only time can examine and give a piece of criticism its lasting value. Lasting value of criticism lies in coaching numerous unborn generations how to appreciate art, assisting historians to study a specific period, pushing the world of art onto another level. And all of these need time to realize. When British critics first used the term “pop art”, who would predict the word “pop” has become such a buzzword half century later? Moreover, art can be very abstract and abstruse to grasp the real meaning within, despite all the professional knowledge a critics masters. With different angle, different culture background or different personal experience, critics can hardly agree with each other on a same piece of art for so many times, and that’s where contradiction and prejudice on a certain school or piece of art originate. Fortunately, time can wash them out and give back an art or artist a fair name. Taking Impressionism for instance, its works were dismissed and harshly criticized then, but now they are highly venerated. Thus, critics offer referable and valuable, and sometimes misleading criticism, but time elicits the lasting value out of it.


To sum up, few will dispute the indispensability of artists and critics, for they have significant impact on course of society progresses and history shaping. However, time is the real master of identifying and projecting the lasting value of art and criticism.


全文很流畅,思路也很清晰~
我只弱弱的提一点:作者把艺术家,评论家和时间完全看成三个不同的实体来看,然后说时间是检验艺术的持续价值的唯一标准,这话不假~ 但是时间的对艺术的评价显然包含那些评论家的努力,最终评价艺术的还是人,不是时间这个空壳。
作者没有能在这一点上将问题说清~
个人建议啦~

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